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Hummer comeback when Boy everything from the early 00s are coming back again, time flat circle etc
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Hummer comeback when Already happening https://www.gmc.com/electric/hummer-ev
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I ended up with a GMC Yukon Denali on a family trip once because it was the only vehicle the rental place had that was big enough for what we needed (had to fit a wheelchair in the back) due to some event taking place at the same time as our trip and them screwing up our reservation. That loving thing is a land yacht. It NEEDED sensors for every direction (Turn sensors on the mirrors, 4 different blind spot sensors, front and rear cameras for parking and seeing behind you). It had a rearview mirror but that thing was useless for anything but trying to see the people sitting the rear seats since the back window was so far away. I felt like I was going to accidentally drive over some smaller buildings if I wasn't careful. It was goddamned nerve-wracking. I do not understand people who want to drive poo poo like that regularly.
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Feb 21, 2022 16:34
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Crain posted:I do not understand people who want to drive poo poo like that regularly. The trick is to not care about anyone else.
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Feb 21, 2022 16:38
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Ran Mad Dog posted:Seriously, can we go back to 4-5+ dollar a gallon of gas so Americans will stop buying these stupid loving monster trucks please? We're at this point now and all they do is just slap a "I DID THIS" Biden pointing sticker by the price display and pay for the gas anyway.
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Crain posted:I ended up with a GMC Yukon Denali on a family trip ...no kinkshaming please
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Sagacity posted:I'd love to see a picture of that next to a Fiat 500. We were so upset by the size of the Fiat 500 in America we had to make a bigger one.
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Feb 21, 2022 16:52
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Truck size is loving insane right now. I drive a bunch of newish vehicles as part of my job(I manage a fleet), and getting in a new F250 or Silverado 2500 feels more like driving a medium-duty truck(dump truck, boom truck, flatbed) than it does an older pickup. I have a mint-condition ‘93 Sierra 3500 diesel 4x4 in my garage for when I really need to drag or haul something big/heavy around, and it looks like a smaller class of vehicle compared to this new poo poo. Remember, this was the most heavy-duty pickup truck you could buy back then. Nowadays it’s dwarfed by a loving Tundra.* *except for actual payload area size, virtually nothing has an 8’ bed anymore.
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JnnyThndrs posted:Truck size is loving insane right now. I drive a bunch of newish vehicles as part of my job(I manage a fleet), and getting in a new F250 or Silverado 2500 feels more like driving a medium-duty truck(dump truck, boom truck, flatbed) than it does an older pickup. Kinda like when Ford brought back the Ranger and its....basically the same size as the previous generation of F-150.
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CommieGIR posted:Kinda like when Ford brought back the Ranger and its....basically the same size as the previous generation of F-150. Yeah, I think it’s the height that bugs me the most. The bed height of a new Ranger has to be six to eight inches higher than an old one, and my shoulders are all hosed from lifting heavy poo poo, so that’s a big difference. I’d like to replace my old Ranger, but until the Maverick, there really wasn’t anything comparable - and now there’s like a year wait for that. Even the Maverick isn’t ideal, the bed’s pretty short, but I could live with it. I finally said ‘gently caress it’, rebuilt the entire top end of my Ranger’s engine, installed a new seat, got some tasteful wheels off of a Mustang and I’m getting the dent in the bed fixed that’s been there since I bought it. It’ll have to do me for another few years, hopefully the market calms down and maybe there’ll be more options.
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Feb 21, 2022 17:23
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CommieGIR posted:Kinda like when Ford brought back the Ranger and its....basically the same size as the previous generation of F-150. That's because the Maverick is ford's compact truck. The ranger is now considered to be a midsize truck. It is a fairly common occurrence. Honda Civic was a subcompact and moved to compact. Accord was compact and moved to midsized. Same with the Toyota Corolla and camry. People tend to like the first car they buy and as long as the quality is good they will come back and get the same nameplate. Might as well move them up the value chain and then for younger buyers introduce them to a new car that isn't their parents. I expect that in 20 years the Maverick will move to midsize.
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Crain posted:I do not understand people who want to drive poo poo like that regularly. Think about how this thread was talking about roads like people were dying nonstop and murder is legal and it basically is a war zone. Internalize that as actually true and people think they need to drive a tank to survive (even if it doesn’t work that way and also roads are incredibly safe)
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If I use one of these voice cloners to make a song that uses say, the voice of Michael Jackson with entirely new lyrics, is that copyright infringement? If I use an AI to make an entire album of songs that sound beat for beat voice for voice like Beatles songs but with new lyrics and arrangements, is that copyright infringement?
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HelloSailorSign posted:Yeah the "rising since 2019" is potentially all pandemic related, but which specific aspect of the pandemic and our related responses to it are unclear. There was a half-decent NYT article (sans paywall here) on this very subject a couple of weeks back: quote:Going into the pandemic, some traffic specialists were optimistic that pedestrian deaths would decline. After all, millions of motorists were slashing their driving time and hewing to social distancing measures. I don't see much in the way of actual numbers directly cited, though I don't know how you'd go about measuring road rage with nonexistent law enforcement.
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sure sure]. For reasons that psychologists and transit safety experts are just beginning to explain, drivers also seemed to get angrier.
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quarantinethepast posted:If I use one of these voice cloners to make a song that uses say, the voice of Michael Jackson with entirely new lyrics, is that copyright infringement? If I use an AI to make an entire album of songs that sound beat for beat voice for voice like Beatles songs but with new lyrics and arrangements, is that copyright infringement? Copyright protects making copies. You're making new songs with a singer that sounds like an already established singer. You might run into publicity rights issues, but that's not copyright related.
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Feb 21, 2022 21:39
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duz posted:Copyright protects making copies. You're making new songs with a singer that sounds like an already established singer. So let's say Spotify comes out with a new feature that generates songs based on your musical tastes. It synthesizes a song that sounds exactly like a Taylor Swift song. You can share this song with friends, and soon this new song becomes viral and just as popular as Taylor's actual songs. But Spotify has all the rights. You don't think Taylor will want a piece? I bet someone will. I suspect there is going to be a conflict in the future in regards to AI making music "in the style of" human musicians. E: and just because speculative questions are kind of annoying, here's an generative AI for audio to play around with. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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quote:Angie Schmitt, who describes pedestrian deaths as a “silent epidemic” in a new book, said the reasons included an aging population, in which older pedestrians are more vulnerable...
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Feb 21, 2022 22:27
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Sounds like appropriation of likeness. Anyone with money behind them (like Spotify or YouTube) would get sued and need to prove that they weren't benefiting from someone else's publicity.
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Feb 21, 2022 22:31
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quarantinethepast posted:So let's say Spotify comes out with a new feature that generates songs based on your musical tastes. It synthesizes a song that sounds exactly like a Taylor Swift song. You can share this song with friends, and soon this new song becomes viral and just as popular as Taylor's actual songs. But Spotify has all the rights. You don't think Taylor will want a piece? I bet someone will. Spotify probably wouldn't be able to copyright the song either quote:The board’s decision calls “the nexus between the human mind and creative expression” a vital element of copyright. Of course that doesn't necessarily prevent Spotify from monetizing the song on it's own platform, but may prevent it from prohibiting other people from doing the same...
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quarantinethepast posted:So let's say Spotify comes out with a new feature that generates songs based on your musical tastes. It synthesizes a song that sounds exactly like a Taylor Swift song. You can share this song with friends, and soon this new song becomes viral and just as popular as Taylor's actual songs. But Spotify has all the rights. You don't think Taylor will want a piece? I bet someone will. You're basically describing the business model of most mobile App game developers, Christian Music, Kidz Bop, and The Asylum film studios, only with magical AI. It's long been a thing for people to make extremely similar versions of popular media in order to jump on the gravy train. Every single game that gets big on mobile generates a whole ecosystem of clones (for a more recent example: Wordle. There are hundreds of clones of that gameplay loop about tons of topics and narrowing down into niche interests like "Lewdle" and "World-le" which are for guessing lewd words and countries respectively). Many of these end up being nothing more than palette swaps that exist to siphon off just enough dumb people to download the wrong version (or a free version) just to churn ads into their device. Christian Music exists solely to copy popular music and give fundies a version they can feel "safe" to give their kids. It's a new song, it's about jesus, but it uses in some cases the exact same musical styling. Same with Kidz Bop which just re-records the exact same song, but with kids singing and removing curse words and "inappropriate" lyrics. And the best example is The Asylum. Which for decades now has operated by jumping on a big name movie, churning out a dog poo poo cheap version of it, and just naming it kinda close to the real blockbuster (TransMorphers/Transformers, The Da Vinci Treasure/The Da Vinci Code, 11/11/11 instead of 11-11-11, which is my favorite). In many of these cases the answer to "Is this legal / won't someone be unhappy with it?" is: YES. They sue for copyright, trademark, exclusivity rights, appropriation of likeness, or in some cases straight fraud. Just because you're having an "AI" create the final product instead of a director, producer, hack musician, or lazy developer doesn't change that this is already well trodden territory in the legal world. In some cases though, you just can't do anything about it. Some of those examples are edge cases. Kidz Bop I think does license songs for "cover versions", most Christian music (even though you can totally tell what song they're ripping off) changes far and away enough to be unique. Unless they literally steal a chorus riff or something actionable. Major film studios have tried to sue The Asylum almost every single time they've put out a copy movie but most of the time they get away with it. The most notable exceptions being when they tried to rip off "The Hobbit" with "Age of the Hobbits" and "Battleship" with "American Battleship". In both cases all that resulted was them being forced to delay their release (hobbits) and change the name "American Battleship" to "American Warships". Regardless of technology, copying popular acts has always been a thing and will always be a thing and outside of very clear infringements there's not a lot anyone can do. Crain fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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duz posted:Copyright protects making copies. You're making new songs with a singer that sounds like an already established singer. you're not making songs with a singer that sounds like them, you're taking their actual voices as source samples, and using machine learning to copy the sound/style. imo, this seems closer to the equivalent of stealing source code to make your own version of a similar program. in this case, you want the one neat trick of using a sound-alike, and licensing their voice (for a lot less) as a source for your ML deepfake version. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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Feb 21, 2022 22:52
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Wow that article you linked was literally published today, speak of the devil.
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Mister Facetious posted:you're not making songs with a singer that sounds like them, you're taking their actual voices as source samples, and using machine learning to copy the sound/style. Is that really any different from having a real human engaging in voice training to make their voice sound more like them?
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Also there's already an industry for music specifically of bands that produce sound-alike covers for streaming services. They try to target artists who don't have their music licensed for streaming yet. When I ran into it a few years ago it might have been bigger because more artists hadn't updated their contracts for streaming, but it's absolutely already a thing. Thing is, there's no real incentive to do it if the music is actually available. Why listen to fake AC/DC or T Swift when the real one is right there?
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NightGyr posted:Thing is, there's no real incentive to do it if the music is actually available. Why listen to fake AC/DC or T Swift when the real one is right there? Why do people make songs with MC Ride shouting over Thomas the Tank Engine, or whatever this is? Because they can, and people like to hear music they've heard a million times played in novel ways. But yeah, given these responses the concerns in turn to copyright are basically irrelevant. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Feb 22, 2022 |
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Rebel Blob posted:I would think that it is the complete opposite that is the problem, that older drivers are causing accidents. There is much you can say about American driving culture that causes the elderly to refuse to give up driving and why there isn't serious push to create limits. Anecdotal, but the only car-related death on my street happened just a few years back when a woman in her late eighties target fixated on a jogger and climbed a curb to run him over on the sidewalk. Boomers are already prone enough to road rage and losing their remaining inhibitions does cause them to become hostile to the idea that anyone else in the world is allowed to exist while they're in a car, yes. On the note of lovely knockoffs, I'd say it depends on the marketplace. The Asylum strikes me as having their business model most threatened by streaming if anything- their whole thing is basically relying on easily confused old people buying DVDs from the bargain bin, and physical media is on the outs. Though app stores certainly rely on pretty much the same principle.
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eXXon posted:There was a half-decent NYT article (sans paywall here) on this very subject a couple of weeks back: In my area of CT, traffic laws de-facto do not exist on the freeways (specifically I-95 and I-91). Go ahead and reenact your favorite action movie chases during rush hour, there is zero chance you will get pulled over. I went googling around for reasons why, and found this. Cops literally refusing to stop cars because they're not allowed to pressure people into doing searches 
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NightGyr posted:Thing is, there's no real incentive to do it if the music is actually available. Why listen to fake AC/DC or T Swift when the real one is right there? This is such a weird question. If you liked AC/DC it seems like you'd like AC/DC-esq music as well, even if it was a lesser amount. But beyond that how many more real AC/DC albums do you expect to come out in the future? And past that, how many singers exist that everyone loves the music but the singer is personally objectionable. Who wouldn't love a good new michael jackson album divorced from being that guy?
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If you want something similar, but not actually the band, you get another artist. There are plenty of hard rock bands, emotional singers, and pop dance artists. Using AI would be just another tool in the box. People already use sampling or play covers. I was addressing the idea that someone would use AI musicians to replace the stars and get away with not paying them royalties. Using ML to target ads or optimize algorithms is a powerful feature because it uses data that humans couldn't even begin to fathom. But using AI to play music... That's a thing that humans already do and the limits on the music industry are not an inability to scale and produce enough music. We have more than enough as it is. I could see AI offering super-auto-tune capabilities, cleaning up songs or making them more appealing. I could see it providing smarter synthesized instruments or even voices. But people still listen to the same songs on repeat. They still share music with their friends. And artists, in the whole scheme of things, are cheap. Most don't get paid very much relative to even a single software engineer, let alone a team that builds an AI. AI generated music feels like a gimmick, not the future.
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quote:Some apps in the virtual-reality metaverse are "dangerous by design", the NSPCC has warned in response to a BBC News investigation. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60415317 Zuckerberg is somehow investing tens of billions of dollars to make a product even worse for humanity than Facebook. Its impressively awful.
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Blut posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60415317 VR chat isn't made by facebook or owned by facebook or exclusive to facebook hardware or funded by facebook.
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Blut posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60415317 Yeah, we git it, it's Second Life
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:VR chat isn't made by facebook or owned by facebook or exclusive to facebook hardware or funded by facebook. True, the Facebook version will probably be worse
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Jose Valasquez posted:True, the Facebook version will probably be worse I mean, horizons is way worse than VR chat, but it's because horizons is dull and lifeless compared to something as unrestrained and freeform as vrchat. Facebook's thing is always going to be bound by being from a large company, it's always going to be lifeless pre-approved avatars standing motionless watching a boring livestream with ads. VRchat is just whatever anyone makes, so it gets to be everyone wearing copyrighted costumes while someone live streams spiderman from their desktop to an in game tv. VRchat is bad the way second life is bad, but it at least has interesting things, horizons is just plain dull and dead.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I mean, horizons is way worse than VR chat, but it's because horizons is dull and lifeless compared to something as unrestrained and freeform as vrchat. i don't know where your blithe confidence in facebook moderation and safety standards comes from, it's completely unsupported both by the company's entire history and their current actions https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/07/facebook-metaverse-horizon-worlds-kids-safety/ quote:In theory, kids aren’t allowed in the game. The new virtual-reality app Horizon Worlds, the first foray into the much-hyped “metaverse” for Facebook parent company Meta, is limited to adults 18 and older. quote:The early reviews of Horizon Worlds on the Oculus store read like a litany of complaints about boorish behavior by unwelcome youngsters. The game had a rating of just over three out of five stars as of Feb. 4, with many users lamenting that its potential was undercut by ineffectual moderation. Similar complaints dot other online forums that discuss the app, and users who spoke to The Washington Post — including some I spoke with inside the app — unanimously agreed that kids are a problem. even the early versions of their software are plagued with underage users the company apparently can't or won't find ways to ban. how much worse will this problem get if the platform actually does take off and is a hundred or a thousand times the size? they didn't even implement an anti-touch option until people were actually being groped. complete lack of foresight, anyone who's been online for 5 minutes could have told them what to expect, but they were apparently blindsided by the development. why the hell would you assume this company is capable of making anything bland, safe and boring when both facebook and instagram are directly responsible for harming their users? facebook moderation is terrible, both because the company cares more about growth and engagement than protecting its users and because its platforms are too large to actually respond proactively. why do think their vr platforms will be any different?
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Stexils posted:i don't know where your blithe confidence in facebook moderation and safety standards comes from, it's completely unsupported both by the company's entire history and their current actions Out of curiosity, how well has something Awful dealt with the problem of keeping minors out of the forums? The paywall certainly helps but like, did kids ever show up that often before
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Mister Facetious posted:Out of curiosity, how well has something Awful dealt with the problem of keeping minors out of the forums? Mods knew all the kids on the forums, yes.
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Mister Facetious posted:Out of curiosity, how well has something Awful dealt with the problem of keeping minors out of the forums? Because SA actually moderates. It's been one of those things to point out when comparing this forum to the shithole that is social media.
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