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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Pham Nuwen posted:

Fuckin' goons terrified of their own shadows at all times. Here's our hypothetical kidnapper listing a now-passe musical instrument in the hopes of luring a doughy goon into his flower-bedecked lair... any victim will do, anyone at all, he's just getting into the kidnapping game and needs some practice. I used Craigslist all the time back when it was the only game in town... got many good deals, saw some garbage, oddly enough never got kidnapped.

OP, if you go get that organ, bring at least 1 friend, because I'm sure the 80 year old grandmother who's selling it will not be much help loading the truck. (she'll be too busy sharpening her murder knives to help)

Craigslist used to be good for weird hookups too, those were some fun days.

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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Pham Nuwen posted:

Hammond organs are cool as hell, I say go for it if you can find the space. Fix it and learn to play "A Whiter Shade of Pale"

Gary Brooker died yesterday. :smith:

My favorite version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6jyEFe5WM

Winty
Sep 22, 2007

Hard Times: Roommate Can’t Believe Someone Would Leave Perfectly Good, Unwieldy, Impractical Organ on Street for Free

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/roommate-cant-believe-someone-would-leave-perfectly-good-unwieldy-impractical-organ-on-street-for-free/

skyelevator
Apr 12, 2020

Iron Crowned posted:

But it's a Hammond organ, the most iconic organ in all of rock history

EDIT:
Just about every song recorded in the 70's with an organ is a Hammond.

There are good Hammond organs and then there are the home ones that you can't give away (I used to have one and I abandoned it when I moved house)

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Kwyndig posted:

I'm assuming from the price tag it's nonfunctional. I wouldn't want to repair one of those, no matter how neat a project it would be. Also this sounds like one of those "Meet me at my house" deals and there's no way I'm getting kidnapped for an electronic organ.

Pretty standard to sell giant musical instruments for a nominal cost or just free as long as you come and get it. A new piano 5-10k dollars. A used one is free if you come and get it.

No one is going to kidnap you. I've gone to people houses to buy stuff on many occasions. It's no worries. They usually meet you in the garage or outside. They don't want you in their house either.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

It's not like you are carrying that out alone anyway.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

Dick Trauma posted:

Gary Brooker died yesterday. :smith:

My favorite version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6jyEFe5WM

Oh drat. Suddenly got dusty over here.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



https://twitter.com/katie_panda/status/1496607013589204998?s=20

Waste of Breath
Dec 30, 2021

I only know🧠 one1️⃣ thing🪨: I😡 want😤 to 🔪kill☠️… 😈Chaos😱… I need🥵 to. [TIME⏰ TO DIE☠️]
:same:

drat I remember checking books like this out from the library as a kid that would let you program an adventure game. I didn't really understand what they were (too young) so I just read the descriptions and imagined what it must be like to play. I checked those books out multiple times lmao.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016



In the replies she says it's an original program she wrote in the present day, but I actually dug out a copy of Basic Computer Games I have on my bookshelf and started thumbing through it because I was convinced this was a page from there.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
As soon as I saw it I thought "That has to be from Creative Computing magazine." :kiddo:

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club

Waste of Breath posted:

drat I remember checking books like this out from the library as a kid that would let you program an adventure game. I didn't really understand what they were (too young) so I just read the descriptions and imagined what it must be like to play. I checked those books out multiple times lmao.

I did that same thing. I would actually write it all into QBasic, but there was some step or something that made it function different than BASIC or whatever. I would spend hours just to get what I imagine now must be a really simple to resolve error but thwarted my every attempt to play these awesome PC games that I had to just interpret in my head from reading it :(

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


credburn posted:

I did that same thing. I would actually write it all into QBasic, but there was some step or something that made it function different than BASIC or whatever. I would spend hours just to get what I imagine now must be a really simple to resolve error but thwarted my every attempt to play these awesome PC games that I had to just interpret in my head from reading it :(

I wrote a version of Pong using YABASIC on the Playstation 2 when it came out. Got to show it running to Ralph H Baer!

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




Great news, everyone!

https://usborne.com/us/books/computer-and-coding-books

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


That looks like it would be good for a beginner.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Now get real serious and post how to build a computer that can run that stuff from scratch

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Ben eater has a series on making a 6502 computer.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


SniperWoreConverse posted:

Now get real serious and post how to build a computer that can run that stuff from scratch

Do they have emulators for ancient PC hardware?

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Oh drat that is the guy who made a video card from scratch

You know I'm actually a little pissy about this stuff -- if I had had any idea any of this was in any way accessible at all I would have been up to a ton of crazy poo poo with some of the hand me down junk I had access to. Shameful lack of vision.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Kwyndig posted:

Do they have emulators for ancient PC hardware?

oh yah they do
http://www.6502.org/tools/emu/

here's an online fantasy 6502 console implemented entirely in java script:
http://www.6502asm.com/

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




skyelevator posted:

There are good Hammond organs and then there are the home ones that you can't give away (I used to have one and I abandoned it when I moved house)

Exactly. Before considering it, make sure it is actually an electromechanical tonewheel organ. They did make a bunch of tonewheel home organs which are nice, the tonewheels models weren't just for touring/recording musicians.
Hammond started making 'standard' electronic organs in the 70s that do not nearly sound as nice as the tonewheel ones, so those are hard to get rid of.

Unless you particularly like the cheesy sound of an old electronic home organ.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

If your organ makes cheesy sounds it might be time to visit a doctor.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

At some point in the last 5 years every single charity shop in town has had an electric organ donated - giant things that take 2 or 3 people to move. They sit there unsold for MONTHS, with the price gradually decreasing, until the shop gets sick of seeing it and puts it outside with a sign saying "FREE!"... and people still won't take them.

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug
Seeing the Cloud Yellers tag reminds me of something that is roughly appropriate for the thread.

Back in the last 80s and early 90s, there was a Magazine on Diskette called Big Blue Disk and it contains one of my favourite old-man rants.

From BBD issue 16 in the "Bluenotes" section (their letters to the editor section).

Bob Talley, Nederland, TX posted:

I think that mice are nice where they belong - in traps, not in computers.
Wasn't it bad enough for computers to have bugs in them - now they have mice? Is
there no end to the vermin infestation? What's next - chipmunks? The meeses I
have tried were slower and less accurate than a keyboard. They may be nice for
games, but who cares? What's the matter with WORDS? Have we forgotten how to
use plain, simple words? This brings me to my other pet hate -the infamous
Icon.

Why Icons? Can't we all read English? Must we have cutesy little pictures
to tell us what to do next? Are we raising a nation of people who are computer
literate but English illiterate?

I don't know who Bob Talley is, or even if he is still alive. But if he is, I hope he still out there ranting against GUIs, touch screens and haptic feedback.

ynohtna
Feb 16, 2007

backwoods compatible
Illegal Hen
He'd better not learn about the apes.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Yeah old electric organs have been a staple of the "I found all of my furniture curbside" life around here for a while

I have a weird one tho, and I love it- it's a dark wood organ from 1897 that was built to operate using foot bellows, pushing air through leather tubes into reeds and other devices that can be activated with pull-pegs- one is a vibrato setting that pushes the air through a wide spinning 'blade' made of a dense oiled cardboard-

at some point in the 1960s, the church that owned it retrofitted it with an air pump and an electrical socket in the back (for a lamp, probably)

I'm between homes so the organ's in a friend's garage, but when I can get it back, I really want to give it another 60-year update, and at the very least put a quieter pump inside

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




ynohtna posted:

He'd better not learn about the apes.

And he can't even right-click them without a mouse!

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

Peanut Butler posted:

Yeah old electric organs have been a staple of the "I found all of my furniture curbside" life around here for a while

I have a weird one tho, and I love it- it's a dark wood organ from 1897 that was built to operate using foot bellows, pushing air through leather tubes into reeds and other devices that can be activated with pull-pegs- one is a vibrato setting that pushes the air through a wide spinning 'blade' made of a dense oiled cardboard-

at some point in the 1960s, the church that owned it retrofitted it with an air pump and an electrical socket in the back (for a lamp, probably)

I'm between homes so the organ's in a friend's garage, but when I can get it back, I really want to give it another 60-year update, and at the very least put a quieter pump inside

Sounds like a Harmonium.



My dad bought an old one like ^^ that ^^ 30-odd years ago and it was a good leg exerciser to play anything over a few minutes. Ended up giving it to the music dept of a local school.

mlnhd
Jun 4, 2002

Antifreeze Head posted:

Seeing the Cloud Yellers tag reminds me of something that is roughly appropriate for the thread.

Back in the last 80s and early 90s, there was a Magazine on Diskette called Big Blue Disk and it contains one of my favourite old-man rants.

From BBD issue 16 in the "Bluenotes" section (their letters to the editor section).

I don't know who Bob Talley is, or even if he is still alive. But if he is, I hope he still out there ranting against GUIs, touch screens and haptic feedback.

Cool. I didn't know this magazine existed. Bob's rant is much longer than what's quoted here. You can run the disk at https://archive.org/details/bbd16 and see it for yourself.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
lol You gotta love someone who is so willfully obtuse that they refuse to understand simple things. He even does understand what the icons mean, but he still works himself into a hissy fit for no reason.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Antifreeze Head posted:

I don't know who Bob Talley is, or even if he is still alive. But if he is, I hope he still out there ranting against GUIs, touch screens and haptic feedback.
Bob is eternally dealing with bugs, mice, and in these modern times worms too. https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/robert-talley-obituary?pid=180461458

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



spookygonk posted:

Sounds like a Harmonium.



My dad bought an old one like ^^ that ^^ 30-odd years ago and it was a good leg exerciser to play anything over a few minutes. Ended up giving it to the music dept of a local school.

yep! mine's almost identical, down to the gold lettering, except it was manufactured in Massachusetts, and has the manufacturing year on it in that gold lettering, with a simple metal toggle switch just drilled right into the middle of the manufacturer's name. It also has disabled foot bellows- they're both nailed down flat (I'm guessing if they weren't, the air pump would move em around). I imagine there was like an old lady who played it in a church for decades, but couldn't operate the bellows anymore, so someone automated it- it was a very cool and weird find!

mine has a couple of dead notes on some voices, and some of the oiled leather tubes are starting to crack a little bit- I want to experiment with other materials, to see if such as PVC tubing significantly alters the sound for the worse

my dream is to make it capable of MIDI-out, my pie in the sky dream is to make it capable of MIDI-in (w/servos etc)

really looking forward to being able to work on it again- I've done some minor restoration on it (it was full of cobwebs and spiders when I got it, a handful of the hoses inside were disconnected, and the vibrato blade was stuck), but I want to carry on the modification done halfway through its life. Some midcentury tinkerer probably felt super-hi-tech putting an electric vacuum pump in there, wonder what they'd think about me building in a Raspberry Pi

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Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


It's there anything a Raspberry Pi can't do?

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Peanut Butler posted:

yep! mine's almost identical, down to the gold lettering, except it was manufactured in Massachusetts, and has the manufacturing year on it in that gold lettering, with a simple metal toggle switch just drilled right into the middle of the manufacturer's name. It also has disabled foot bellows- they're both nailed down flat (I'm guessing if they weren't, the air pump would move em around). I imagine there was like an old lady who played it in a church for decades, but couldn't operate the bellows anymore, so someone automated it- it was a very cool and weird find!

mine has a couple of dead notes on some voices, and some of the oiled leather tubes are starting to crack a little bit- I want to experiment with other materials, to see if such as PVC tubing significantly alters the sound for the worse

my dream is to make it capable of MIDI-out, my pie in the sky dream is to make it capable of MIDI-in (w/servos etc)

really looking forward to being able to work on it again- I've done some minor restoration on it (it was full of cobwebs and spiders when I got it, a handful of the hoses inside were disconnected, and the vibrato blade was stuck), but I want to carry on the modification done halfway through its life. Some midcentury tinkerer probably felt super-hi-tech putting an electric vacuum pump in there, wonder what they'd think about me building in a Raspberry Pi

Are you this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1mliD9m1LM

Antifreeze Head
Jun 6, 2005

It begins
Pillbug

Cage posted:

Bob is eternally dealing with bugs, mice, and in these modern times worms too. https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/robert-talley-obituary?pid=180461458

That's a bit sad, if not inevitable. That rant has stuck with me for decades. I guess I'll pour out a box of 5.25" floppies on the curb for my favourite opponent of the serial pointing devices.

And it is certainly evident that SA has grown up since the comments section on that memorial page doesn't have any messages about mice, squirrels or icons.

mlnhd posted:

Cool. I didn't know this magazine existed.

There was lots of good stuff in, lots of games I spent hours playing as a kid.

And the Alfredo "movies" are great fun.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

spookygonk posted:

Sounds like a Harmonium.



My dad bought an old one like ^^ that ^^ 30-odd years ago and it was a good leg exerciser to play anything over a few minutes. Ended up giving it to the music dept of a local school.

A found harmonium you say??

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PltA5woXKaA

Just a wonderful song called "Music for a Found Harmonium" try to remember which movie you heard it in without cheating

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Sam Battle is amazing and his youtube channel is a wonder.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Kwyndig posted:

It's there anything a Raspberry Pi can't do?

provide a stable desktop environment without heavy modification to let it use SATA

otherwise tho! they're great!! I have a few and only use one all the time, that I set up as a turbo-portable console emulation machine to take to friends' houses etc



haha no, I'm not any guy, but that's the kind of thing inspiring me to dick around with a 120yr old machine
very cool, thanks for sharing it!

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

spookygonk posted:

Sounds like a Harmonium.



My dad bought an old one like ^^ that ^^ 30-odd years ago and it was a good leg exerciser to play anything over a few minutes. Ended up giving it to the music dept of a local school.

Technically that would be a reed organ. Reed organs suck (they draw air through the reeds) while harmoniums blow (push air through the reeds) :eng101:


I have an 1890s Mason & Hamlin reed organ, picked up from a house clearance for £20 about 12 years ago. It also has a 'Vox Humana' tremulant with the cardboard fan powered by a turbine. It basically all works - the vacuum bellows and reservoir have small holes along the 'valleys' of the folds and the main bellows valves have gone a bit stiff so it doesn't 'breathe' as efficiently as it should but it can sing nicely at full volume with enough footwork. The treble end is a bit screechy but it generally has a really nice warm, rich tone to it. The only broken part is a wooden lever in the octave coupler mechanism and some of the hooks that pull the treble stops into action when you use the Full Organ knee lever have came adrift inside the case during a house move.

My ambition is to have the space to properly strip it down, replace/repair the vacuum assembly as required and properly restore and re-voice it.

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Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

A found harmonium you say??

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PltA5woXKaA

Just a wonderful song called "Music for a Found Harmonium" try to remember which movie you heard it in without cheating

Napoleon Dynamite

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