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IncredibleIgloo posted:My personal useless/difficult/odd house modification I have always wanted is to have the master bedroom be like the Captain's cabin on an 18-19th century ship of the line. Not so much the scurvy or salt water or cannon, but to have a wall that has large sloped windows like the stern of the ships. https://www.wuwm.com/arts-culture/2019-07-19/milwaukee-boat-house-has-been-a-symbol-of-nonconformity-for-100-years 
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`Nemesis posted:https://www.wuwm.com/arts-culture/2019-07-19/milwaukee-boat-house-has-been-a-symbol-of-nonconformity-for-100-years "When you need a permit to build a house but not to store a boat"
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As far as boats go that seems like one of the less bad with money options.
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Well, that's one way to make a fire insurance claim.
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It’s already begun again: [timg]https://i.imgur.com/dPrMGDF.jpg][/timg]
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Daddy, the wall is clicking again
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mr.belowaverage posted:It’s already begun again: Looks like sewage backflow. Hope it's not your house or garage
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Freezing a motorcycle to the ground is a good anti-theft strategy if you do not have a 600 lb block of concrete nearby
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canyoneer posted:Freezing a motorcycle to the ground is a good anti-theft strategy if you do not have a 600 lb block of concrete nearby What does 400lbs of ice on a motorcycle look like?
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Warmachine posted:What does 400lbs of ice on a motorcycle look like? Like roughly 47 gallon jugs stacked together
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Warmachine posted:What does 400lbs of ice on a motorcycle look like? Give or take 50lbs 
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So much effort to do things wrong. Also, 
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I'm sure it's GFI protected.
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You first.
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Nitrox posted:Looks like sewage backflow. Hope it's not your house or garage It’s my garage pool of thread title fame. It’s not sewage, just meltwater with a bit of dirt from the soil that collects in my concrete garage. And annoying, as I can’t solve it.
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kid sinister posted:So much effort to do things wrong. You can tell it's an English bathroom because there are separate switches for lukewarm and cold water.
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Rare example of electrical manifold.
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Took me a while to figure out why this is posted here but now, I see the problem.. too lazy not to do a ground busbar too.
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Why would someone do that? Is that an attempt to like...skip a breaker box? It seems needlessly complicated.
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Danhenge posted:Why would someone do that? Is that an attempt to like...skip a breaker box? It seems needlessly complicated. My working theory is that this was a temporary setup because they didn't have the box and breakers yet. Like some sketchy during construction poo poo so that their workers can plug tools in upstairs while they wait on the supply chain get the rest of their electrical supplies to the jobsite. It's just the kind of dumb thinking that makes sense in our dysfunctional construction industry.
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Blindeye posted:My working theory is that this was a temporary setup because they didn't have the box and breakers yet. Like some sketchy during construction poo poo so that their workers can plug tools in upstairs while they wait on the supply chain get the rest of their electrical supplies to the jobsite. But it doesn't appear to be setup as a main feed to a bunch of branch circuits.....it seems to just be splicing a bunch of romex runs together? Or am I missing something. Can't be nagged for an inaccessible junction box if you don't have a junction box 
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Danhenge posted:Why would someone do that? Is that an attempt to like...skip a breaker box? It seems needlessly complicated. Given the proximity and apparent connection to the switch, I suspect it might be for ceiling lights that were all home-run rather than being daisy chained. In which case, what WOULD be the correct solution for something like this? TBH I kind of like the idea of home-run lighting so one could potentially reconfigure which lights were connected to which switches, but that would of course need an access panel of some sort. I know those Wago lever nuts can be had in larger sizes for more than 2-3 wires, but I don't think they go up to 12. wolrah fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Give or take 50lbs Alright, stop.
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wolrah posted:Given the proximity and apparent connection to the switch, I suspect it might be for ceiling lights that were all home-run rather than being daisy chained. There are many potential correct solutions, but every last one of them starts with a listed enclosure that is accessible (i.e., can't be buried in sheetrock).
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Alright, stop. Hammer time?
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GreenNight posted:Hammer time? The code book his me so hard It makes me say “Oh my lord” Thank you, for blessing me With a layman’s grasp on electricity And plumbing, ‘cause poo poo rolls down Hill and payday on Friday when the floor get lovely My wires might pass if it’s just before lunch But this is a toilet, uh You can’t flush therobit fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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Motronic posted:There are many potential correct solutions, but every last one of them starts with a listed enclosure that is accessible (i.e., can't be buried in sheetrock).
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God drat this page had been real hard to look at.
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wolrah posted:Of course, I was just curious how one would correctly connect that many wires to a single feed once inside said enclosure, if that indeed is the goal of this mess. I know wire nuts aren't for more than two and I haven't seen the Wago things beyond I think five spots. Wire nuts can absolutely be used for more than two wires. They are rated for bunch of different types of combinations of numbers and gauges, and it should be easy to find for a given brand. Here is Ideal's UL approved list although I generally find at the top end of the capacity, it gets to be too much of a pain and usually upsize the nut. Good loving luck getting 5 #12's into a red wire nut, even if it is rated for it.
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ROJO posted:Wire nuts can absolutely be used for more than two wires. They are rated for bunch of different types of combinations of numbers and gauges, and it should be easy to find for a given brand. Here is Ideal's UL approved list Only Dana DeArmond could make that type of squeeze
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wolrah posted:Of course, I was just curious how one would correctly connect that many wires to a single feed once inside said enclosure, if that indeed is the goal of this mess. I know wire nuts aren't for more than two and I haven't seen the Wago things beyond I think five spots. You could go full industrial and use terminal blocks in an enclosure. You can get jumper bars of pretty much any size to connect as many blocks/wires together as you want. 
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 Red paint makes it go faster.
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wolrah posted:Of course, I was just curious how one would correctly connect that many wires to a single feed once inside said enclosure, if that indeed is the goal of this mess. I know wire nuts aren't for more than two and I haven't seen the Wago things beyond I think five spots. I mean as far as I know terminal bars are A-OK to use inside enclosures? I.e. what they've done there would be perfectly fine, if it were in a listed accessible enclosure. It would be a bit weird to be using it as a multiplex for one circuit's wires and I don't know if that's acceptable, which I think is your real question, but given that's how you connect all the grounds or neutrals (or grounds & neutrals in the main panel) I would imagine that physically speaking it would be preferred to a branching mess of wirenuts or 6 inch long Wagos. (6 inch long Wago is also my porn name). edit: looked at the pic again - obviously also you'd want the hot terminal bar to be sourced from a breaker, in this imaginary world where things are done correctly Would be nice to have an actual electrician sort chime in on this since it's an interesting question - if you did in fact do electrical like network wiring and homerun everything, how would you properly connect 10 runs that all want to be on the same circuit? (The stupidity of having ten homeruns to a panel from outlets probably in the same location in the house and only feet from each other aside) SyNack Sassimov fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Alright, stop. He asked and I listened. 400lbs of ice on a bike that's glistenin'.
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