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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Man if Russia actually goes through with this it's going to trigger one hell of a military build-up in ex-Soviet/Warsaw Pact states terrified Putin will pull the same poo poo on them. the time to buy raytheon stock is now now now!
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DPR and LPR leaders have written letters asking Russia to intervene. https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496587819569098758
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Fuligin posted:the time to buy raytheon stock is now now now! Considering how much European equipment is German you'd probably be better investing in Rheinmetall.
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Sinteres posted:There's a difference between being able to disrupt all of Ukraine's logistical network vs just attacking any planes coming in carrying weaponry from other countries or attacking convoys at the borders that are picking up those sorts of supplies. I feel like the latter is a lot easier to do. there will be trucks going in and out of Ukraime everyday for all sorts of things that are not military. Unless Russia is going to bomb every vehicle going in and out of Ukraine, its not going to be hard to figure out how to deliver aid. For example, Israel has total air superiority over Gaza and has it blockaded on all sides, yet Hamas still has ATGMs, rockets and all manner of weaponry continually delivered.
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Lum_ posted:If Putin goes full supervillain and invades the Baltics, then the US would be at war with Russia (it would be pretty much automatic). What would it look like in the few days/hours before a nuclear exchange is left for whatever Skaven historian deems important to record. Russia won't step on the Baltic's, you have french, Danish and British battlegroups currently based in Estonia, with the Spanish, Italians, Canadians down in Latvia he won't trigger article 5 up here, if he did I'll be fuming, I'm supposed to rotate out soon.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Considering how much European equipment is German you'd probably be better investing in Rheinmetall. *clumsily fumbling across chart coveres desk fir my telephone&* 'FORGET the raytheon! Were all in on rhein rhein rhein!
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BoldFace posted:DPR and LPR leaders have written letters asking Russia to intervene. Smart of them to show print-outs rather than Word docs. I'm 100% positive metadata would show the statements were written on a computer in St. Petersburg.
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OctaMurk posted:there will be trucks going in and out of Ukraime everyday for all sorts of things that are not military. Unless Russia is going to bomb every vehicle going in and out of Ukraine, its not going to be hard to figure out how to deliver aid. For example, Israel has total air superiority over Gaza and has it blockaded on all sides, yet Hamas still has ATGMs, rockets and all manner of weaponry continually delivered. Yeah I mean I don't think they'll stop every crate coming in, but I think it'll obviously be a lot harder to accept mass shipments than it is today if Russia does start a large scale attack. Especially if Russian intelligence has infiltrated Ukraine as thoroughly as a lot of people have speculated.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Considering how much European equipment is German you'd probably be better investing in Rheinmetall. Raytheon is down 2% on the week, so you're probably correct.
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Pook Good Mook posted:Smart of them to show print-outs rather than Word docs. I'm 100% positive metadata would show the statements were written on a computer in St. Petersburg. They are already grabbing people off the streets and conscripting them by force.
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Pook Good Mook posted:Smart of them to show print-outs rather than Word docs. I'm 100% positive metadata would show the statements were written on a computer in St. Petersburg. And like a month ago.
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Gatts posted:Could we give them a Cub Scout status? A coupon to apply later? There is a (Western) Ukrainian scouting tradition dating back to 1911 (Plast).
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Can the Russians stand up to the Ukrainian Webelos knowledge of knot types? What artillery can stand before the mighty sheet bend?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Can the Russians stand up to the Ukrainian Webelos knowledge of knot types? What artillery can stand before the mighty sheet bend? The Cub Scout "Counter Battery" merit badge.
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https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1496570486029000711 Russian aircraft reportedly probing Ukrainian Air Defense. https://mobile.twitter.com/loogunda/status/1496565524175728640 Donetsk authorities cut power, internet, and TV to the city. https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1496574361746214912 State of Emergency officially declared in Ukraine. To go into effect in less than an hour. Alongside the formal request for help from DNR/LNR authorities, I believe direct confrontation starts tonight.
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peej posted:How much would they need to reposition? Not an expert here by any means but the heavy bombers (if they were to be used) have enough range to not need to be moved. Even more so if they are launching cruise missiles. Probably not much. Looking at the more exact quote now, the statement was “50 medium to heavy bombers within range of Ukraine”, and looking at the list of actual aircraft in use I’m not even sure what is a medium bomber. All 3 Tupolevs are long range stratbombers, which only leaves the 10 MiG-31K with Kinzhal missiles that they have, supposedly.
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Guess modern war doesn't have to start at dawn...
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FishBulbia posted:US said Russian forces would be ready on the 16th, media took this to mean they were invading on the 16th. This is some great reframing. Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Feb 23, 2022 |
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Conspiratiorist posted:https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1496570486029000711 Stay safe Ukrainian goons.
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Freezer posted:Guess modern war doesn't have to start at dawn... RusMil has better optics across their armor. It was always going to start at night.
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CommieGIR posted:Stay safe Ukrainian goons. Yeah stay safe everyone!
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If I were Zelensky I would just give up ahead of time and call Putin to ask for whatever he wants, loss in direct battle is totally a foregone conclusion.
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quarantinethepast posted:If I were Zelensky I would just give up ahead of time and call Putin to ask for whatever he wants, loss in direct battle is totally a foregone conclusion. He wants Ukraine. The entirety of Ukraine. Or the ability to veto anything Ukraine wants to do.
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I don't believe he gets to make that kind of call on his own, regardless. Also since it hasn't been brought up, Ukrainian Parliament has been in session all day passing emergency measures like unrestricted ability to shift funds to military budget and open carry for self-defense permitted to all citizens.
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quarantinethepast posted:If I were Zelensky I would just give up ahead of time and call Putin to ask for whatever he wants, loss in direct battle is totally a foregone conclusion. On the plus side for Zelensky he probably gets to be 'the legitimate President of Ukraine' for the rest of his life.
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CommieGIR posted:He wants Ukraine. The entirety of Ukraine. Or the ability to veto anything Ukraine wants to do. In that case it's going to happen whether the Ukrainians fight or not, what's Zelensky going to do, have half the population die or flee in a guerrilla war?
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quarantinethepast posted:If I were Zelensky I would just give up ahead of time and call Putin to ask for whatever he wants, loss in direct battle is totally a foregone conclusion. Unfortunately the chances are good that Putin will ask for Zelensky's head, so he probably isn't going to risk that. I get what you're saying, that not fighting back might result in less dead Ukrainians, but there's no guarantee of that either. And even if there was, that's zero solace to anyone on the list of "undesirables" Russia has.
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quarantinethepast posted:In that case it's going to happen whether the Ukrainians fight or not, what's Zelensky going to do, have half the population die or flee in a guerrilla war? Given that Putin has openly said they plan to go after anyone on a list they have: Some people are going to fight. Because if there's one thing Putin is good at, its silencing and murdering critics.
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I mean lets look back to October/November: https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1496572027385303048 The final go decision was probably only made quite recently but negotiations were always a sham and this was always Putin's endgame. There was nothing Zelensky could have done.
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Would Putin want to annex all of Ukraine, or just Novorossiya and set up a puppet in Kiyv-Lvov? Prior to that unhinged speech I would have guessed the Novorossiya option to be the absolute limit of his ambitions but now I'm not so sure.
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BoldFace posted:DPR and LPR leaders have written letters asking Russia to intervene. This should make the CSPAM tankie thread happy (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I'm no Zelensky stan but i have to assume even he is not going to just say "sure, mr putin, come in and do 3-6 holocausts here" because that's what capitulation means.
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Called grandma and she gave me an unhinged speech about Ukrainians being bad people and Putin being very patient with them for too long so that's what the state TV watching population is thinking (no I don't know if she has an account here) That includes Putin himself, watching Solovyovs screaming-about-ukraine shows under quarantine broke his brain
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quarantinethepast posted:If I were Zelensky I would just give up ahead of time and call Putin to ask for whatever he wants, loss in direct battle is totally a foregone conclusion. Ukraine, unlike Russia, isn't a tinpot dictatorship run by a single man
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