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Soul Dentist posted:Howard Zinn's A People's History was also the textbook for my US History class A People's History is kind of garbage history, its very influenced by ideology and incredibly willing to omit facts that it finds not useful to the narrative it tries to build. I know there's a lot of garbage history books that do the same thing but in favor of going "rah, rah, nationalism" but I don't think that two wrongs make a right here. It's a shame, too, because no history book that's more rigorous but just as left wing has gotten a fraction of the notoriety that Zinn's has
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Eh we were correctly taught that it was a narrative, like all texts. I would worry if it was just like the only reference for the class, but it was really just a jumping off point for debate
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Feb 23, 2022 07:49
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Yeah if you want a history book that has no udealogy influencing it you don’t exactly understand what ideology is
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Rats arrived in the Galapagos Islands around 1850, and ate all the tortoise eggs for over 100 years. When they started trying to save the species in 1965, all of the surviving tortoises were over 110 years old, and biologists managed to save several species by getting them to reproduce and protecting the eggs.
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Feb 24, 2022 02:13
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My classes were taught exclusively out of History of the United States: Abridged English and Drama used The Complete Works of Shakespeare: Abridged
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I understand the need to present students at that level with somewhat condensed and simplified materials, but that's taking abridged too far.
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Brawnfire posted:English and Drama used The Complete Works of Shakespeare: Abridged This version? I saw it live, it’s hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd4h16DWpdU
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Chamale posted:Rats arrived in the Galapagos Islands around 1850, and ate all the tortoise eggs for over 100 years. When they started trying to save the species in 1965, all of the surviving tortoises were over 110 years old, and biologists managed to save several species by getting them to reproduce and protecting the eggs. Thinking about long-lived animals always blows my mind. There may well be Greenland sharks swimming around that were born contemporary to Tilly and Wallenstein. Also, apparently there's a way to detoxify their flesh to make an icelandic delicacy? Stop that Iceland. That shark belongs in a museum!
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Chamale posted:Rats arrived in the Galapagos Islands around 1850, and ate all the tortoise eggs for over 100 years. When they started trying to save the species in 1965, all of the surviving tortoises were over 110 years old, and biologists managed to save several species by getting them to reproduce and protecting the eggs. What did they do with all the cats
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Milo and POTUS posted:What did they do with all the cats shot them from helicopters except for judas cats that were specially marked cats that gave a false sense of safety to the other cats on the islands
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Feb 24, 2022 12:24
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Thinking about long-lived animals always blows my mind. There may well be Greenland sharks swimming around that were born contemporary to Tilly and Wallenstein. Not much of a life though. Just floating through the ocean while parasites destroy eyes and maybe if you're lucky you'll get laid after swimming around for a century.
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Alhazred posted:Not much of a life though. Just floating through the ocean while parasites destroy eyes and maybe if you're lucky you'll get laid after swimming around for a century. whoa spirit animal right there
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Seriously, I wanna be an eye-eating parasite
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Brawnfire posted:Seriously, I wanna be an eye-eating parasite Rent your house out and you're halfway there
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Stuff like hakarl (but also potatoes) makes me wonder how they discovered when the plant/meat was detoxified. Like, "Leifur, it's your turn to taste the piss shark, remember to give a thumbs up if it isn't lethal anymore."
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Thinking about long-lived animals always blows my mind. There may well be Greenland sharks swimming around that were born contemporary to Tilly and Wallenstein. My old boss once bragged to me about eating Greenland Shark in Iceland and I got super mad at them.
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Alhazred posted:Stuff like hakarl (but also potatoes) makes me wonder how they discovered when the plant/meat was detoxified. Like, "Leifur, it's your turn to taste the piss shark, remember to give a thumbs up if it isn't lethal anymore." I would wager this is more a case of "there's no good food available, let's try to survive on this zombified shark we found" and most of the time you die or get awful cases of indigestion. The few times this doesn't happen are tremendously interesting because, hey, new food source! So those preparation techniques survive, because their creators did, and nobody remembers Leifur who shat himself to death.
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Feb 25, 2022 16:09
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i have a camembert that expired two weeks ago in my fridge it smells like bad egg farts when i open the fridge but it tastes great so im gonna keep it for a while longer, see if i can finish it before i get sick of the smell
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Arctic food is especially interesting. I could see how somebody would come to believe in intelligent design of the world for humans. "Oh, that whole arctic winter thing is leaving the inuit with a critical lack of vitamin D? Good thing animals here conveniently have flesh with crazy amounts of just that!"
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Feb 25, 2022 16:31
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Burning your own fat also releases the vitamin D stored within. This was a neat trick before modern sedentary lifestyles broke the annual cycle of putting on and losing weight.
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Carthag Tuek posted:i have a camembert that expired two weeks ago in my fridge It was a Viking who first took a pot full of sour milk and put it on a boil It smelled so strange that he did not get peace Then he put in jar and dug the jar down And the jar was in the pig pen, and the pig pen was behind the toilet and the smell did not spoil anyone, and the grass began to grow and days became weeks and winter became spring and the jar stood in the dung for eight hundred years A spring day at 16-hundred-and-17-fifty came the jar for a day where a bear had a den. And the farmer who found it was hungry and gray-haired He said: "It smells like hell, but tastes really good!" And hey also ha, also rinse'n down with booze, and then heisann and håsann, that taste wasn't tame, and jump also hiccup also hark also cough. Oh you freshly baked devil! that was some cheese! Hu, hey, old cheese for breakfast, old cheese til brunch, old cheese for dinner, and old cheese with tea in the evening. You can muzzle and sniff it and smoke like tobacco, use it as an enema and flambe it in cognac and if gets so old that it gets hairy you can take it to the opera and let it sing And hey also ha, also rinsed down with booze. And then heisann and håsann, that taste was tame, and hopsan and hiccup and hiccup and cough Oh you freshly baked devil! That was some cheese! Hu, hey, old cheese for breakfast, old cheese til brunch, old cheese for dinner, and old cheese with tea in the evening.
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Alhazred posted:Stuff like hakarl (but also potatoes) makes me wonder how they discovered when the plant/meat was detoxified. Like, "Leifur, it's your turn to taste the piss shark, remember to give a thumbs up if it isn't lethal anymore." I wonder if it's often some variant of, "the Hibernian slave who tried to kill me survived the rotten shark punishment, and the only difference I can think of is that Hralfr soaked it in piss as a joke"
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øv den er ikke tilgængelig i dk  e: found one
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Alhazred posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayw4C4m6ao0 This made me look up gamalost and I found this VICE article. quote:Honestly, I didn’t even like it.
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Speaking of buried dairy products, I kinda wanna try bog butter too (I usually find butter unnecessary on most smørrebrød, but I feel like this might have a kick that would obviate coldcuts) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_butter
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Peanut Butler posted:I wonder if it's often some variant of, "I am Hralfr and this is Male Donkey. Today we're eating piss shark."
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Alhazred posted:"I am Hralfr and this is Male Donkey. Today we're eating piss shark." *skáld giggling & humming intermittently while writing as fast as he can*
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I always figured ancient people observed what other animals ate or tested things on their dogs or domestic livestock if they weren't sure, rather than experimenting on themselves or other people.
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I assumed someone was like "I'm hungry I'll eat that mushroom" and died then someone else came along and was like "lmao don't eat that mushroom" and told everyone.
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*reasonable voice* probably a mix you have dozens of generations of knowledge what to eat and what to, but once in a while some idiot tries to eat the bad milk or the dirt shark. but it turns out its sometimes ok? usually they die from it, but a generation later an old person will tell their grand children: "don't eat the spoiled milk unless it has a hard scab" or "don't eat the buried shark unless somebody pissed on it" that seems reasonable enough, so they keep doing it the way that works Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 23:12 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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Poisons tend to have effects short of ingestion of a lethal dose. If you don’t immediately swallow a bowlful, but instead work your way up from skin contact, there are a relatively small number of poisons that will take you by surprise.
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we are getting in somewhere between paracelsus "the dose is the poison" and homeopathy but yea ps cf birds of prey taste-testing when grubs are about 50/50 bad but not if theyre mostly either good or bad https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-05600-5
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Platystemon posted:Poisons tend to have effects short of ingestion of a lethal dose. "yeah so I drank the old wheat goop. I lost all inhibitions, became suicidally bold, threw up, passed out, and now I feel like poo poo." "gently caress yeah my dude let's invent agriculture to make more"
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Cogito Ergot Sum
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Soul Dentist posted:Cogito Ergot Sum  I had to re-read this but it’s perfect
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Soul Dentist posted:Cogito Ergot Sum memento munchy
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Carthag Tuek posted:we are getting in somewhere between paracelsus "the dose is the poison" and homeopathy There is a word for this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridatism
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Phy posted:There is a word for this The funny thing is that it genuinely works for a lot of things. Like, the most common poison, alcohol, tolerance is a very much personally observable thing, you can see where people get the idea from. (after all, the difference between a medicine, a drug, and a poison, is often merely dosage)
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