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assuming that headline is even accurate, absolutely pathetic that the president of the United States can’t tell the United States Postal Service what to do I don’t care about whatever administrative explanation there is, it’s just loving pathetic. it’s just made up rules that trump already demonstrated you can ignore. what a broken country
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Feb 23, 2022 22:01
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but think of the decorum!
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Feb 23, 2022 22:20
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The Rage-Virus-Infected-Chimpanzee of the CIA has been rampaging unchecked by the POTUS for a half a century, this is like one of the lemurs from a smaller pen getting out
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Feb 23, 2022 22:36
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Trabisnikof posted:The gods were correct to punish Prometheus.
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Feb 23, 2022 22:51
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Wait did we not pay off another company 500m already to cancel the contract on mail trucks? Like did we get credit?
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Feb 23, 2022 23:23
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Feb 23, 2022 23:40
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Capitalism doesn't need to be inevitable or a natural state even if it is almost unimaginable for many to picture alternatives. It was the ideology in place when some people learned how to reliably burn fossil fuels and created incentives for themselves to keep doing so. All that massively beneficial energy would definitely still be exploited by any ideology succeeding it. Like, historically, communism has presented no true ecological alternative to capitalism. Favourable examples like Romania's forests get cancelled out by unfavourable examples like the Aral Sea, and an unfavourable baseline of constant fossil fuel use. We would definitely be much better equipped for the interconnected climate/energy/resource crises under worldwide communism, but I doubt they would have been delayed.
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Feb 24, 2022 00:18
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:assuming that headline is even accurate,
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Feb 24, 2022 00:59
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i met a nice old man burying a goldfish in one of my constructed habitats
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Feb 24, 2022 01:24
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i'm thinking of making a website where i share my guerilla habitat restoration techniques for the use of others worldwide. but, a lot of my guerilla habitat restoration techniques involve building big piles of woody debris and i'm not sure i trust the general public to do that without catastrophe. knowing my luck, someone would try to apply my methods and burn down portland and then i would be officially a terrorist
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Feb 24, 2022 01:27
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Car Hater posted:You will like dieoff.com this is an awesome site, and the argument on the front page is incredibly powerful. goddamn. been thinking about it all day, gonna have to do a piece on it i think. this is the tightest version of the extinction determinism argument i've ever seen. i'm going to kill it dead. (off the top of my head at the moment - pre-historical overshoot dieoffs, historical collapses, and the capitalist MASS EXTINCTION EVENT (!) are not qualitatively comparable, not even remotely. there are also tons of instances where energy gluttons have lost wars against weaker opponents. this is another instance of boogbrained historical flattening to try to generate a deterministic 'welp;' outcome to relieve themselves of any kind of agency or historical responsibility - but he nonetheless has some really good points re: current conditions.) yeah the piece is happening. gimme a few days. emTme3 has issued a correction as of 01:45 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Feb 24, 2022 01:41
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I thought about my rant and realized I was using capitalism very broadly, as a stand in for the drive to accumulate and consume. Other better ways exist (although someone pointed out that communists can overconsume and pollute too). They have been tried, but although they may win a few battles they always seem lose the war, since a society based on aggressive expansion and extraction is better at domination. It makes me think about how egalitarian and matriarchal societies have existed and even flourished for a time, but over the long term they've lost out to patriarchy. I think the issue is intrinsic to humanity, but look forward to the effort post rebuttal to doomer determinism.
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Feb 24, 2022 02:30
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Rime posted:Is it? Non-capitalist societies existed and proliferated for all of human history, many of them persisting in stability for hundreds or thousands of years before dissolving. Capitalism, in the way we understand it, is younger than most of the nations practicing it. This is an ideology and social structure barely 300 years old. An eyeblink. It’s a mental pandemic rapidly burning itself out, along with its hosts, while a few pockets of independent thought continue to struggle through. I hope you don’t take this as an attack, but I can’t tell if you’re joking there at the end or not. more likely I just missed the point because I’m tired. But, I’m pretty sure Darwinian evolution applies to all life, conscious or otherwise, and we are very nearly done proving it on a global scale. Obviously, this thread is full of people smarter than the average bear who are still, of course, members of this species. But just because some of us can see, some of us can change, doesn’t mean anything in the final analysis. Yeah, we used to enact evolutionarily stable strategies, until one evolved that was not stable, but so successful in the short term that it eradicated all the rest and then eradicated itself. TBH I’m not really sure what we’re quibbling about at this point 
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Feb 24, 2022 02:34
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there’s this cool book called settlers by j Sakai....
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Feb 24, 2022 02:39
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Mameluke posted:Capitalism doesn't need to be inevitable or a natural state even if it is almost unimaginable for many to picture alternatives. It was the ideology in place when some people learned how to reliably burn fossil fuels and created incentives for themselves to keep doing so. All that massively beneficial energy would definitely still be exploited by any ideology succeeding it. Like, historically, communism has presented no true ecological alternative to capitalism. Favourable examples like Romania's forests get cancelled out by unfavourable examples like the Aral Sea, and an unfavourable baseline of constant fossil fuel use. We would definitely be much better equipped for the interconnected climate/energy/resource crises under worldwide communism, but I doubt they would have been delayed. The 20th century "Communist" states were industrialized authoritarian power structures holding little in common with historical egalitarian societies found in the Americas - which managed to successfully not wholesale turbofuck the environment for over 15,000 years. Whether the issue is the industrialization or the top-down authoritarian hierarchy is the issue at hand, not the (vague, largely irrelevant) academic distinction between "capitalism" and "communism" as ideological labels. Lordshmee posted:I hope you don’t take this as an attack, but I can’t tell if you’re joking there at the end or not. more likely I just missed the point because I’m tired. But, I’m pretty sure Darwinian evolution applies to all life, conscious or otherwise, and we are very nearly done proving it on a global scale. Genetic evolutionary processes do not apply to societies.
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Feb 24, 2022 03:11
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WaryWarren posted:well actually Why do the fire season dates end on 9/22 
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Feb 24, 2022 03:15
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emTme3 posted:this is an awesome site, and the argument on the front page is incredibly powerful. goddamn. Oooh I look forward to it, hopefully it changes my mind. I can pile on top of the content on the site with more evidence but I'll just be pedantic and say it's not technically inevitable, just so much more likely than other outcomes as to appear so. I should be fair! though I have been exaggerating, and taking for granted the existence of woody plants, coal, and oil on other worlds, and that is a foolish thing. I should say that my position is not quite Jay's, and I do think humans as-is could have coasted in and out of repeatedly collapsing pre-industrial civilizations for a good long time. Industrialization though has a whole set of it's own incurred rules about entropy and maintaining your machines that align with the endless growth idea and that's the line we crossed. Converting dead energy to useful mechanical work is just too addictive for the beneficiaries to let go of, and they gain enough advantage from it to fend off challenges. E; I do think of dieoff as a "why we can't respond to capitalism" more than a "the development of capitalism is inevitable" but wrt other sapient life in the universe it's the same thing - either small collapse loops or go for the gold and do the big collapse by consuming more than an acceptable amount of power Car Hater has issued a correction as of 03:29 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Feb 24, 2022 03:21
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nikosoft posted:Why do the fire season dates end on 9/22 cause you're not allowed to start fires outside of fire season? These things have to be regulated or people are going to be starting fires all over the place for the stupidest reasons.
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Feb 24, 2022 03:39
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nikosoft posted:Why do the fire season dates end on 9/22 Yeah wtf. In CA I count on fire season lasting until November at the very least. October is always warm and windy and it's the furthest in time away from (what passes for ) the rainy season.
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Feb 24, 2022 03:47
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WaryWarren posted:this guy seems like a tool Lol https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1496539527036510214?t=eAQu-m2xF4wK82crzcb5gA&s=19 Because, of COURSE we'll adapt. Idiots. God.
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Feb 24, 2022 03:54
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i like how that guy claims to be a climate expert but doesn't understand that there is a finite amount of land to burn you fools, overall amount of land on fire is shrinking not growing. Your predictions of 100% of the earth on fire every summer by 2100 will not come to pass!
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Feb 24, 2022 03:56
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Basic Poster posted:Lol slightly heartened that this guy seems to get raked in the replies to most of his tweets. only slightly
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Feb 24, 2022 03:59
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Jfc...I hate whoever posted that tweet I quoted... What a noxious swamp of loving ghouls that's led me into. https://twitter.com/SteveForbesCEO/status/1495784884350197767?t=sWJt5fkjceIYYFuipOMLdQ&s=19
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Feb 24, 2022 03:59
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:assuming that headline is even accurate, twenty years ago the postal service got a giant bipartisan gently caress you with the pension funding death sentence they were handed it's hilarious to see it paid right back with total disrespect for its nominal controllers
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Feb 24, 2022 04:00
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The loving TAKES... https://twitter.com/CormacHarkin/status/1496557114805870593?t=SXZcKxK1H_cAH2aEhXO9dQ&s=19 K I'll stop, I'll take a sixer for that (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 24, 2022 04:01
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I might need to workshop it a bit but what if instead of the green new deal we had a word that made it an action, a lifestyle in itself? I think Mr. Forbes would be a great example we could all follow in CEOmposting
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Feb 24, 2022 04:03
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Basic Poster posted:Jfc...I hate whoever posted that tweet I quoted... Don't worry, they, and all of their loved ones, will probably die horribly. Pity that the rest of us will along with them
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Feb 24, 2022 04:10
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Sorry for those of you who thought climate change mattered, looks like we'll nuke ourselves extinct first after all https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1496681322869362691
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Feb 24, 2022 04:19
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don't threaten me with a good time
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Feb 24, 2022 04:20
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Sorry for those of you who thought climate change mattered, looks like we'll nuke ourselves extinct first after all you kidding? nuclear winter is the best way to reverse global warming the madman has figured it all out
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Feb 24, 2022 04:20
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some nerd posted:you will live to witness manmade horrors beyond your comprehension
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Feb 24, 2022 04:31
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The Protagonist posted:you will live to witness manmade horrors beyond your comprehension not if the nukes drop lol. I'll be vaporized instantly
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Feb 24, 2022 04:31
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Sorry for those of you who thought climate change mattered, looks like we'll nuke ourselves extinct first after all he's just saying what we want to hear
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Feb 24, 2022 04:46
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:you kidding? nuclear winter is the best way to reverse global warming
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Feb 24, 2022 04:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5solptGBsBk
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Feb 24, 2022 04:56
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Modern tactical nukes wouldn't eject enough particulate into the stratosphere to change much. If there is a lot of them maybe.. but who knows.
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Feb 24, 2022 05:30
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who said anything about tactical nukes
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Feb 24, 2022 05:32
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Sorry for those of you who thought climate change mattered, looks like we'll nuke ourselves extinct first after all do it you loving coward.
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Feb 24, 2022 05:36
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Cup Runneth Over posted:not if the nukes drop lol. I'll be vaporized instantly hell yeah. turning off my emergency alert on my phone tonight gonna just rest up
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Feb 24, 2022 05:40
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hope they nuke Ohio
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