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Sanctum posted:Turns out in europe the same company uses a program to monitor the average speed of all vehicles using GPS data and integrate that with the dispatching software so when you speed it will report: the employee ID, vehicle ID, time, location, and estimated speed. Then makes a log of incidents and well yeah... all that metadata that totally wont be used against employees whenever it suits the company. I worked for ATT in the late 'aughts and there was a bit of grumbling when the put GPS on all their trucks. Based on everything I ever saw CWA is pretty far in management's pocket already so they didn't have much trouble ramming it through. My favorite thing was that my boss would get a ding on a report if one of his techs let their truck idle for more than 5 minutes, I guess to encourage us to take our lunches inside an actual oven in the 100+ degree Texas summers... In reality I set up a timer on my phone and just turned my truck off and on again every 4m30s 
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Takes No Damage posted:I worked for ATT in the late 'aughts and there was a bit of grumbling when the put GPS on all their trucks. Based on everything I ever saw CWA is pretty far in management's pocket already so they didn't have much trouble ramming it through. My favorite thing was that my boss would get a ding on a report if one of his techs let their truck idle for more than 5 minutes, I guess to encourage us to take our lunches inside an actual oven in the 100+ degree Texas summers... In reality I set up a timer on my phone and just turned my truck off and on again every 4m30s I just wish admin would think two steps past their decisions. Like "OK. We do X. What obvious things will people do in response? What will we do in response to *that*?" That way if any of the things encountered in that line of reasoning are ridiculous or unacceptable, it can be rethought.
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Outrail posted:Regardless of sexual identity, gender or preference it's not really cool to hit on people in the bathroom. That's a safe space you go to gently caress after you've hit on someone. Or to poo poo and piss if you're a shameless barbarian. Pooping and peeing on company time is a noble activity! 
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Elephant Ambush posted:Most people are terrible at facilitating effective meetings. Tons of people will ask the question "Is everyone OK with this change?" and since tons of people are either barely paying attention because the meeting is boring or because they're messaging someone on the side or doing other work they don't say anything. What meeting facilitators should do instead is ask "Are there any objections to this change?" It's not perfect but it opens up space for people who are actually paying attention to voice concerns. When you ask "Is everyone OK with this?" it implies that there is an expectation that everyone says "Yes!" as a chorus or some weird poo poo. It's not about facilitating effective meetings it's about running roughshod over people. The whole point of using 'Is everyone okay with this change?' is to get what you want and move on to the next item as quickly as possible. Broadly translated: 'This is what I've decided we're doing just acknowledge it's happening. Or if you want we can talk about it for an hour until you eventually acquiesce? Because no one is going anywhere until I get approval and I'm not backing down because the other option isn't feasible NO JEFF SHUT THE gently caress UP you're dumb as poo poo and your super clever idea is literally embezzlement you idiot we're not doing that. gently caress'.* I have minimum 30-40 hours of meetings a month plus another 10-20 hours of unscheduled calls and while 50% are necessary they're mostly for information exchange because a 30-minute conversation is quicker than a three-week email exchange. * This actually happened minus the language. Nothing more satisfying than opening a meeting by describing the boomer-man's brilliant idea and following up with '...and this would be great but we can't do it because it would be embezzlement or fraud.' That he was the treasurer, responsible for financial oversight, and had been questioning whether or not he and the rest of management were insured from 'legal risks' was in hindsight a bit of a red flag.
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Atopian posted:I just wish admin would think two steps past their decisions. I feel confident saying most people are dumber than a wet dog for whom critical thinking might as well be a lost art like building pyramids or finding the clitoris.
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mobby_6kl posted:I just set up a brand new laptop and it installed the Nexthink extension into my browser(s) which can't be disabled. Never heard of it. I did bring this up as a concern at a workers council meeting last week but I doubt that had any impact yet lol. Either they were just testing the ground or someone else realized this is a potential issue. Or maybe it'll be back tomorrow 
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Feb 24, 2022 09:36
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Elephant Ambush posted:Most people are terrible at facilitating effective meetings. Tons of people will ask the question "Is everyone OK with this change?" and since tons of people are either barely paying attention because the meeting is boring or because they're messaging someone on the side or doing other work they don't say anything. FYI this is deliberate
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I have to do coaching my work is paying for all managers to do and by their own model of human development no one who successfully transitions to the higher levels would stay working at a massive multinational business so Im sort of curious whose the idiot here.
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Feb 24, 2022 11:25
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Karia posted:Apparently my boss is trying to get cameras put into the shop from some machine-learning company to watch safety violations. Stuff like not wearing safety glasses or trips/falls, that sort of thing. The company claims they'll blur out the faces before doing any analysis, but A) that's wholly insufficient for respecting privacy, and B) gently caress if I believe they'll even do that. Even ignoring the fact that this is a slippery slope into a dystopian nightmare, it's a terrible idea: you can't automate your way into a culture of safety. If you're really that concerned about trips and falls, why not train your software to proactively look for spills or trip hazards, rather than texting upper management whenever somebody trips over an extension cord? What the gently caress. having a record of safety violations when someone tries to claim work comp is a nice little ace in their sleeve
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"We have a really short amount of time left, we have lots of questions from the floor so we will need to keep these short" *First questioner proceeds to ramble for 5 minutes to ask a one line question*
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Lol was checking an org chart and we have five layers of Vice Presidents
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I had a manager who repositioned his entire department so that he was sitting in a corner and the rest of the room had their desks facing backwards toward him so that he could sit and watch your computer screens all day and make sure you didn't take a break away from work. People got threatened or fired if they ever rested. He thought a culture of violent fear was the best motivator. I already mentioned this loving dumbass prick before when I mentioned how he'd walk up and down the aisles between desks slapping a yard stick against his hand menacingly while staring at us. He'd do dumbfuck poo poo like disobey the CEO's orders about how to stop loving up or would get into actual screaming matches with the software development crew for not pushing code fast enough for his tastes because he just thought they needed to simply write code faster for longer hours. He was an unimaginable piece of poo poo and years after he was fired and shown the door, people still talked about how much they wished he'd meet the front of a bus at high speed.
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Feb 24, 2022 16:37
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that's what stupid people think working hard is. being dogged. making thirty phone calls a day instead of twenty. being 'head down' on a project for six hours (that'd take an hour if you were competent) is 'working hard'. i highly HIGHLY recommend you learn to do something no one else knows how to do. then no matter how much of a lazy contradictory rear end you are, you won't be fired  besides, who cares if the owners make four million this year instead of three? gently caress work and gently caress them
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Feb 24, 2022 16:45
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Lol was checking an org chart and we have five layers of Vice Presidents feel like the top 20% or something of almost any large corp could be pushed off a dock on a rusty barge without an engine and nothing would change for the worst at least
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Feb 24, 2022 16:54
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Monkey Fracas posted:feel like the top 20% or something of almost any large corp could be pushed off a dock on a rusty barge without an engine and nothing would change for the worst at least In my mind I frame it as "allowed to stay home and watch their TED talk and neuroscience videos all day."
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Feb 24, 2022 17:10
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The company I work for uses Yammer and has an "All Company" bucket that has included important discussions on: - "How to properly load into an elevator." Remove your backpacks so more people can fit, ladies first please, and maybe just wait for the next one if the current one is full. - "What good gentleman clubs are near offices and can you expense them if on a business trip?" No you cannot expense it, unless you take a client, also remember to ask your taxi or uber driver for recommendations. Both of these had hundreds of responses to them and were on the top for days, so these are an effective use of people time.
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Feb 24, 2022 17:11
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goatface posted:"We have a really short amount of time left, we have lots of questions from the floor so we will need to keep these short" Fix it for you.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:05
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So despite people apparently taking issue with me being a meanie, I got an above inflation raise.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:23
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MarxCarl posted:The company I work for uses Yammer and has an "All Company" bucket that has included important discussions on: Are you in a country where "gentlemen's club" is not a euphemism? I could see taking a client to a cigar club or something, I GUESS, but still too much risk of the client pinching the server's rear end. That said, can you ask your Yammer channel where I can find a good gigolo? TIA
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Tell them if they want to look at naked people on the company's dime they should go look at porn on their phones in the bathroom like everyone else.
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:So despite people apparently taking issue with me being a meanie, I got an above inflation raise. Working as designed. The system rewards shitheads and bullies so keep up the good work!
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Betazoid posted:Are you in a country where "gentlemen's club" is not a euphemism? I could see taking a client to a cigar club or something, I GUESS, but still too much risk of the client pinching the server's rear end. It's a large global company. They were definitely talking strip joints, they weren't very subtle about it. Lots of people had things to contribute, it was mostly sales guys and mid level managers in the discussion. I'll get right on asking about gigolos, any particular region? I'm sure that'll garner a ton of responses.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:00
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goatface posted:"We have a really short amount of time left, we have lots of questions from the floor so we will need to keep these short" it's never a question. it's always an (overly rambling) observation or if it is a question it's something like "do we get this Monday off? My wife works at [place] and they have Monday off so I just wondered"
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It wasn't a conference "question", it was an actual, relevant question to the speaker. It was just draaaaagged out.
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goatface posted:"We have a really short amount of time left, we have lots of questions from the floor so we will need to keep these short" Our group has that one person whose hand shoots up and they always ask a long rambling question to make themselves look smart. It is annoying as hell and outside of flatly telling them "cut that poo poo out, we all want to get back to work and out of this stupid meeting" nothing else worked. I don't miss in person meetings one bit. At least with MSTEAMS (ugggh) I can let it run in the background and work.
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MarxCarl posted:It's a large global company. They were definitely talking strip joints, they weren't very subtle about it. Lots of people had things to contribute, it was mostly sales guys and mid level managers in the discussion. A guy in his late 50's I used to work with up until recently was a sales guy for a large multi national company some years back. He would tell stories of regularly taking clients to strip clubs in the late 80's/90's and getting it expensed. He assured me and others that it was a super common practice in sales.
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TotalLossBrain posted:A guy in his late 50's I used to work with up until recently was a sales guy for a large multi national company some years back. He would tell stories of regularly taking clients to strip clubs in the late 80's/90's and getting it expensed. He assured me and others that it was a super common practice in sales. I know my dad did also while he was in sales in the 90s.
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Zil posted:I know my dad did also while he was in sales in the 90s. It 100% still happens to this day: there are strip clubs in London that have seemingly ordinary pub sounding names for exactly the purpose of getting the payments cleared through expenses. My old boss and a few of the more old school salesmen regularly bragged about it, not realising how incredibly tragic they were
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Catastrophe posted:I had a manager who repositioned his entire department so that he was sitting in a corner and the rest of the room had their desks facing backwards toward him so that he could sit and watch your computer screens all day and make sure you didn't take a break away from work. People got threatened or fired if they ever rested. He thought a culture of violent fear was the best motivator. I already mentioned this loving dumbass prick before when I mentioned how he'd walk up and down the aisles between desks slapping a yard stick against his hand menacingly while staring at us. He'd do dumbfuck poo poo like disobey the CEO's orders about how to stop loving up or would get into actual screaming matches with the software development crew for not pushing code fast enough for his tastes because he just thought they needed to simply write code faster for longer hours. He was an unimaginable piece of poo poo and years after he was fired and shown the door, people still talked about how much they wished he'd meet the front of a bus at high speed. Usually Bus Factor is the number of people who need to be hit by a bus to cripple a company. But I can get behind a Nega-Bus Factor being the number of people who need to be hit by a bus to make a company succeed.
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TotalLossBrain posted:A guy in his late 50's I used to work with up until recently was a sales guy for a large multi national company some years back. He would tell stories of regularly taking clients to strip clubs in the late 80's/90's and getting it expensed. He assured me and others that it was a super common practice in sales. It's kind of still a thing in my industry. But it's limited to the big trade show which is always held in Vegas. You can not truly understand cringe until the grandmotherly finance lady explains to you how to get and expense cash for a strip club. Hands down it was the most uncomfortable meeting I've ever been in. Including a meeting when I was asked for a bribe.
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Thomamelas posted:It's kind of still a thing in my industry. But it's limited to the big trade show which is always held in Vegas. You can not truly understand cringe until the grandmotherly finance lady explains to you how to get and expense cash for a strip club. Hands down it was the most uncomfortable meeting I've ever been in. Including a meeting when I was asked for a bribe. Did you take it?
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Thomamelas posted:It's kind of still a thing in my industry. But it's limited to the big trade show which is always held in Vegas. You can not truly understand cringe until the grandmotherly finance lady explains to you how to get and expense cash for a strip club. Hands down it was the most uncomfortable meeting I've ever been in. Including a meeting when I was asked for a bribe. Everyone in our company has to take anti-bribery and corruption training which is all multiple choice. Someone offers you a bribe, do you a) take the bribe b) INFORM COMPLIANCE IMMEDIATELY c) ask your manager if you think you should take the bribe.
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Aramoro posted:Everyone in our company has to take anti-bribery and corruption training which is all multiple choice.
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Aramoro posted:Everyone in our company has to take anti-bribery and corruption training which is all multiple choice. C, depending on the current negotiation, legal framework in your country of business, and ongoing drama, it might be a sound management decision to take the bribe in a way that's recorded and use it to extort better terms out of them. Best to ask management if a business ratfucking can be facilitated. Also be sure to ask in writing, so if they decide to push you under the bus if there is blowback, you can state that you did so under orders.
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Aramoro posted:Everyone in our company has to take anti-bribery and corruption training which is all multiple choice. ahh yes.. training where if you answer a quesiton wrong they SHOULD drop a claxon over your desk lock your comptuer just take you away from your desk. Instead oyu just need to press the back button and try again.
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Zil posted:Did you take it? I was asked for one. Not offered one. If I was offered one, I take it and give the correct share to management. Aramoro posted:Everyone in our company has to take anti-bribery and corruption training which is all multiple choice. This was a start up. So A and give management their share in return for equity. I'm not a stupid mercenary, if I can get paid twice, I get paid twice.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Lol was checking an org chart and we have five layers of Vice Presidents The extra VPs are to absorb impacts.
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DreadUnknown posted:The extra VPs are to absorb impacts. The best use for most VPs is in a Whipple shield
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