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A Spherical Sponge posted:It's going to be so dumb if this is the thing that kicks off WW3. I don't give a poo poo about Ukraine or Russia, why do I have to die in nuclear hellfire to ensure the territorial integrity of some loser country because of this post
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Feb 24, 2022 13:22
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break-up breakdown posted:when do we start blaming the ukrainians for not putting up enough of a fight immediately
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Feb 24, 2022 13:22
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A Spherical Sponge posted:It's going to be so dumb if this is the thing that kicks off WW3. I don't give a poo poo about Ukraine or Russia, why do I have to die in nuclear hellfire to ensure the territorial integrity of some loser country Sorry, that's XCOM baby.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:22
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Mr Hootington posted:Reminder to those who want to see action in this war: nothing is stopping you from flying to a neighboring country and crossing borders. It is that easy. Fight for biden im boarding the plane right now
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Feb 24, 2022 13:23
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break-up breakdown posted:when do we start blaming the ukrainians for not putting up enough of a fight i dunno how long did it take for the media to start calling the ANA cowards and stuff, like 1 or 2 days? fits my needs has issued a correction as of 13:26 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Feb 24, 2022 13:23
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break-up breakdown posted:when do we start blaming the ukrainians for not putting up enough of a fight embarrassment hasn't set in yet / opinion polls out of date.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:23
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Mr Hootington posted:Reminder to those who want to see action in this war: nothing is stopping you from flying to a neighboring country and crossing borders. It is that easy. Fight for biden
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Feb 24, 2022 13:24
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V. Illych L. posted:nah russia's an old-school autocratic power at this point. they're much closer to imperial than nazi germany. i do agree, though, that overemphasising the fascist elements on the ukrainian side is a mistake, but one cannot really ignore them because they are a genuine force in ukrainian security policy nationalistic elements are a genuine force in Russia's policy too. They may be more oligarchic and less outwardly fascist, but the persecution of sexual and political minorities paints a clear fascistic picture. I think the 'nazi ukraine' thing being parrotted is in Russia's interest and it having a big element of truth is just cherry on top
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Feb 24, 2022 13:24
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heh heh heh, you mean THE Ukraine REGION of Russia??
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Feb 24, 2022 13:25
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dex_sda posted:nationalistic elements are a genuine force in Russia's policy too. They may be more oligarchic and less outwardly fascist, but the persecution of sexual and political minorities paints a clear fascistic picture. hell, they could even believe it themselves
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Feb 24, 2022 13:25
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Asproigerosis posted:
donald the dove will save us all
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Feb 24, 2022 13:25
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:heh heh heh, you mean THE Ukraine REGION of Russia?? Yes
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Feb 24, 2022 13:25
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https://twitter.com/MilitaryTimes/status/1496823205620768768?s=20&t=QP6Tc6EQJHQAUJ8qyuBLOA
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Feb 24, 2022 13:25
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As a clueless nerd that played arma once I'd expect to see NATO slamming all their assets to the eastern borders of NATO states to at least let putin know you're prepared to do more than kayfabe sanctions.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:28
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https://twitter.com/noraneus/status/1496822690342187016?s=20&t=QP6Tc6EQJHQAUJ8qyuBLOA
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Feb 24, 2022 13:28
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Stupid Boxes posted:donald the dove will save us all https://twitter.com/ACTBrigitte/status/1496802207160848384
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Feb 24, 2022 13:29
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well this is all loving horrible
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Feb 24, 2022 13:29
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Well I woke up to 700 new posts that I won't read so I can only assume the brave Ukrainian military was capable of holding off the slavering Russian hordes until Joe Biden personally flew in on an F-35 and chased them away with bolts of lightning and laser beams.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:29
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Tiler Kiwi posted:hell, they could even believe it themselves It's possible
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Feb 24, 2022 13:29
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Feb 24, 2022 13:29
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Some Guy TT posted:taking a moment to appreciate that putin invading ukraine with such a small number of troops makes perfect sense if you assume that the ukraine military is a clown show that cant even be bothered to fight back consistently weird how none of the news stories hyping the invasion over the last month thought to mention this Same with the mud and the Dnieper not being frozen solid or thawed, and the airborne and amphibious attacks.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:30
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dex_sda posted:nationalistic elements are a genuine force in Russia's policy too. They may be more oligarchic and less outwardly fascist, but the persecution of sexual and political minorities paints a clear fascistic picture. When fascist paramilitaries do a coup in the Kremlin because they think Putin isn't sufficiently nationalist enough, then maybe I'll grant there's a parallel.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:30
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dex_sda posted:nationalistic elements are a genuine force in Russia's policy too. They may be more oligarchic and less outwardly fascist, but the persecution of sexual and political minorities paints a clear fascistic picture. imperial germany (or, well, imperial russia) was also not a great place to be gay. conservative militaristic powers are perfectly happy to stamp on whatever minorities they find convenient at any given time. there's some important fascist traits which are not present in russia as far as i can tell, mostly to do with the idea of war and violence as a way to cleanse and strengthen the body politic and the inherently sacred nature of the nation as expressed through the state. fascists don't just like violence as a way of accomplishing things, they like violence for its own sake.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:30
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Well I woke up to 700 new posts that I won't read so I can only assume the brave Ukrainian military was capable of holding off the slavering Russian hordes until Joe Biden personally flew in on an F-35 and chased them away with bolts of lightning and laser beams. i dunno they seem to be just kinda driving around https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1496823519325437956?s=20&t=QP6Tc6EQJHQAUJ8qyuBLOA
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Feb 24, 2022 13:31
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I can't believe a nation that's been in complete disarray for a decay crumpled immediately despite us sending a couple containers of assault rifle 15s.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:31
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Third World Reagan posted:when the world around you collapses, a systems collapse, you still go to work Yeah, when you view war from a news coverage perspective (or a a historic one) you always focus on the times where battles are happening and cities are destroyed but there's always some version of regular life going on in lots of places. Two years ago my grandmother told me that in a way, the Covid lockdown felt like more of a disruption of daily life than World War 2 because even at the height of the war, there still was church on sunday and market on saturday.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:32
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Asproigerosis posted:personally I wouldn't have made ukraine give up its nukes, made sure they were never actually going to be allowed into NATO, and then run a coup on them in 2014 when it looked like their commitment to NATO was about to waiver and install a neonazi regime thinking it'd work just fine as a bulwark against russian aggression. Active military intervention is pretty stupid at this point, but my gut feeling is you gotta do something better than halfassed sanctions. stupid
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Feb 24, 2022 13:32
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break-up breakdown posted:when do we start blaming the ukrainians for not putting up enough of a fight about a week ago
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Feb 24, 2022 13:32
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if they’re still talking about sanctions when bimbos are dropping near kyiv, natos not gonna do anything right?
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Feb 24, 2022 13:35
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/noraneus/status/1496822690342187016?s=20&t=QP6Tc6EQJHQAUJ8qyuBLOA hmm, the fact that they're still able to fire from Russian soil at least suggests that there's still some Ukrainian resistance near the border
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Feb 24, 2022 13:35
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strange flex from my autocorrect but I dig it
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Feb 24, 2022 13:36
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Is Hunter Biden still loving hookers in the Ukraine?
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Feb 24, 2022 13:36
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You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, America. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's time to put the hurt on the Ukraine.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:36
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https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/1496825996414181376?s=20&t=qMr8i4n79jKBvkG7u9ox4g grandma with a gun meet grandma with a cross
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Feb 24, 2022 13:36
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did Kiev fall while I was sleeping
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Feb 24, 2022 13:37
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a primate posted:if they’re still talking about sanctions when bimbos are dropping near kyiv, natos not gonna do anything right? Of course they're not, and they've been very clear about that. Nobody's starting WW3 over Ukraine. The whole point of dangling NATO membership out in front of them while never actually providing it was to guarantee we never had to actually defend them because we knew Russian invasion was too plausible to discount.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:37
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Asproigerosis posted:As a clueless nerd that played arma once I'd expect to see NATO slamming all their assets to the eastern borders of NATO states to at least let putin know you're prepared to do more than kayfabe sanctions.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:37
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TenementFunster posted:why would nato intervene in ukraine, a county that isn’t in nato? to boost the economy, duh
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Feb 24, 2022 13:38
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how’s the azov babushka battalion doing
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Feb 24, 2022 13:38
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I think it's more to ensure they don't uhhh... Go any further.
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Feb 24, 2022 13:38
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