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As a LaRoucheite I am glad the USSR is having a civil war!
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Feb 24, 2022 18:22
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empty whippet box posted:because dnd has low traffic because only either brokebrained biden-lovin' libs or people who want to bash them post there they apparently have 100 more people browsing than we do come on in and post, lurkers, you have nothing to lose but your state sponsored 
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Feb 24, 2022 18:22
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brugroffil posted:Short of an active military buildup with reliable intelligence of an intent to invade in the immediate future, "preemptive" invasions are not justifiable. Google “joining NATO”. That’s what it is. Announcing you will join a hostile military alliance is providing reliable intelligence of an intent to invade in the immediate future.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:22
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razorscooter posted:egging ukraine on was a really good prank even if we have to put [GONE WRONG] onto all of the video titles look mistakes were made, there is plenty of blame to go around
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Feb 24, 2022 18:23
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MLSM posted:How else would they stop Ukraine from joining nato genius The ongoing low-intensity conflict in separatist regions and status of Crimea already pretty much assured that for now, and there was obviously no imminent threat of Ukraine joining NATO--let alone any imminent threat of meaningful militarization of Ukraine. This action will only accelerate NATO expansion elsewhere, and will shut the door on any meaningful expansion of Russian' influence or soft power west of the Dnieper. It's a bold, impulsive, short-sighted act that doesn't really advance Russian strategic interests except in a very narrow minded and near-term way, over a threat that was much longer term.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:23
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Lostconfused posted:Did you ever read this thread? We've been saying this for weeks now. how much of a pain for Russia do you think all the gladios in Ukraine are gonna be? for sure they're gonna be getting lotsa funding and weapons going forward, even if they folded immediately in terms of actually defending the country
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Feb 24, 2022 18:23
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Torpor posted:are you attempting to excuse accidentally flying a mig -29 into Ukraine and having a fucky wucky and firing missiles into homes? read that post I made again
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Feb 24, 2022 18:23
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https://twitter.com/Ted_Kac/status/1496892796208390144
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Feb 24, 2022 18:24
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Morbus posted:The ongoing low-intensity conflict in separatist regions and status of Crimea already pretty much assured that for now, and there was obviously no imminent threat of Ukraine joining NATO--let alone any imminent threat of meaningful militarization of Ukraine. This action will only accelerate NATO expansion elsewhere, and will shut the door on any meaningful expansion of Russian' influence or soft power west of the Dnieper. It's a bold, impulsive, short-sighted act that doesn't really advance Russian strategic interests except in a very narrow minded and near-term way, over a threat that was much longer term. Frosted Flake posted:Google “joining NATO”. That’s what it is. Announcing you will join a hostile military alliance is providing reliable intelligence of an intent to invade in the immediate future.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:24
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Frosted Flake posted:Google “joining NATO”. That’s what it is. Announcing you will join a hostile military alliance is providing reliable intelligence of an intent to invade in the immediate future. I was thinking “what dumbass would try to invade Russia?” then thought about all the moronic poo poo the US has done in the past and the frequency with which the phrase “regime change” is used on the news and lol
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Feb 24, 2022 18:24
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brugroffil posted:I'm sorry that you think Chinas invasion of a neighboring country based on hosed up ethnonationalist claims is "100%" legitimate. The situation is that Taiwan did not pose a military threat to China in any way, as we can see by how insanely quickly they got rolled. Even if Taiwan was scheduled to join NATO tomorrow, that would not justify preemptive invasion. Short of an active military buildup with reliable intelligence of an intent to invade in the immediate future, "preemptive" invasions are not justifiable.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:25
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Truga posted:the more i read/listen to this guy the funnier he is. he called everything right in the 90s and early 00s with what was going to happen in east europ/ukraine specifically this is your brain on anticommunism
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Feb 24, 2022 18:26
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Tulip posted:usually taking modern cities involves weeks to months of brutal block to block or even room to room fighting, that continually flares up in reprisal killings behind lines that either side believed were firmly established days ago  2017     tl;dr they’ll bypass to destroy the Ukrainian field army first if they hit any resistance . There is no need for a prolonged battle when they can go around, rout the Ukrainian Army and force a surrender. Unless the Ukrainians are willing to do what the US wants, turn Kiev into Grozny and fight to the last grandma, the city should not be a problem. It will either declare itself a free city, resistance will be light and scattered, or it can be bypassed. If they choose to fight on when the rest of the country has been taken any the army that would relieve them is destroyed… well, yeah. Not great. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 18:31 on Feb 24, 2022 |
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Feb 24, 2022 18:26
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if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member?
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Feb 24, 2022 18:26
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Any war action is going to lead to civilian deaths because this isn't Dragon Ball Z where we can teleport this out to the remote mountains.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:26
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Al-Saqr posted:there’s no way the loving Russians let their VDV use their personal phones with tiktok on them also he’s not wearing gear that suggests he’s entering a combat zone maybe this was from that training a year ago?! As we all know, telling infantrymen not to do something dumb guarantees they won't do that dumb thing
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Feb 24, 2022 18:26
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The big gay dead airplane is not so dead after all: https://twitter.com/aviationbrk/status/1496891999433404420
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Feb 24, 2022 18:26
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how terrible a person am i if i want to reinstall wargame airland battle now
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Feb 24, 2022 18:26
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MLSM posted:How else would they stop Ukraine from joining a hostile nuclear military alliance dumbass I don't think they have an inherent right to do that. e: Ukraine doesn't change that alliance's nuclear capabilities in any way
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Feb 24, 2022 18:27
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StashAugustine posted:how terrible a person am i if i want to reinstall wargame airland battle now worse than Putin
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Feb 24, 2022 18:27
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Rate my take: Russia should stop the invasion of ukraine, and not only that, everyone should be forced somehow to de-militarize all armies globally. No idea how you’d do that though.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:27
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New CSPAM background: https://twitter.com/DoctorPenisBoob/status/1496898660017311746
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Feb 24, 2022 18:27
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hseroK divaD posted:The big gay dead airplane is not so dead after all: i feel better
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Feb 24, 2022 18:28
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Opioid posted:if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member? holy gently caress this poster is stupid
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Feb 24, 2022 18:28
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Opioid posted:if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member? Yes, that's why this is dumb and shortsighted (And is exactly why the US were so gung-ho about this farce going ahead)
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Feb 24, 2022 18:28
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If the US invaded canada it would also be because of Poutine.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:28
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Opioid posted:if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member? they're not super thrilled about poland in nato either but also while you can explain the context leading up to this it's maybe not the best long term move
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Feb 24, 2022 18:28
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taiwan sending troops back in time to get machine gunned down in the dardanelles to be a full anzac member gave china no choice
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Feb 24, 2022 18:28
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all western foreign policy is based on the well-researched and scholarly work, "if you give a mouse a cookie"
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Feb 24, 2022 18:29
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Frosted Flake posted:Google “joining NATO”. That’s what it is. Announcing you will join a hostile military alliance is providing reliable intelligence of an intent to invade in the immediate future. yeah, a pre-emptive declaration of war has a very limited legal definition and a neighbor considering joining an international alliance definitely isn't enough. of course international law is a completely trivial, blatantly ideological fabrication, but it isn't that meaningless
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Feb 24, 2022 18:29
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putin wont stop until he reaches berlin
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Feb 24, 2022 18:29
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went to bed 4 hours ago and just woke up hows the war going? any solid data on troop advances/positions/casualties?
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Feb 24, 2022 18:29
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Opioid posted:if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member? They are going to install a government that will keep Ukraine as a buffer against NATO.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:29
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Frosted Flake posted:Google “joining NATO”. That’s what it is. Announcing you will join a hostile military alliance is providing reliable intelligence of an intent to invade in the immediate future. Weird how many countries have joined NATO and yet there has never been an attack on Russia. I guess "immediate" means "may decide to turn aggressive at some indeterminate point in the future and invade a nuclear power for ???"
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Feb 24, 2022 18:29
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truly, less countries around russia would desire to be a part of a mutual defense organization after this
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Feb 24, 2022 18:29
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Rate my take: perhaps you could use an army
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Feb 24, 2022 18:30
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Opioid posted:if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member? Presumably they're not looking to completely absorb Ukraine. They smash Ukraine's military, carve off a couple choice bits, stick in a puppet government, maybe leave a few "military advisors" around, and now they have a buffer state under their thumb (which is what they wanted in the first place.)
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Feb 24, 2022 18:30
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Opioid posted:if the concern is NATO on their borders, won’t they just create an issue once they take over Ukraine? would the next step be demanding Poland leave NATO because it poses a threat and they don’t want a bordering nation to be a NATO member? now you’re on the trolley!
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Feb 24, 2022 18:30
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If we take the liberal interventionist view that it is imperative to stop Putin, that indeed any price must be paid to stop him, because the long-run cost will amount to thousands if not millions more lives as he takes even more than just Ukraine... ... consider that Putin has probably made a similar calculation, of the long run cost of NOT doing this, of allowing NATO to set up shop next to Russia, and how much that is going to cost him, and calculated that the conflict now is going to cost less than the alternative
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Feb 24, 2022 18:31
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animist posted:how much of a pain for Russia do you think all the gladios in Ukraine are gonna be? for sure they're gonna be getting lotsa funding and weapons going forward, even if they folded immediately in terms of actually defending the country I have no loving idea, but occupying Ukraine would make this poo poo even more insane. Not something anyone predicted because it's so stupid.
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