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that's one hell of an act what do you call it? the oligarchs
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Feb 24, 2022 18:55
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/antontroian/status/1496892257638748163?s=20&t=qMr8i4n79jKBvkG7u9ox4g should’ve taken Minsk II when it was still on the table
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Feb 24, 2022 18:55
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pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth Putins going to fire up the brain scorcher and turn everyone into monolith zombies.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:55
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:Ideal stupid situation: Kyiv gets fully captured by russia within the next 24 hours, Louis goes on and makes some jokes about the situation, gets arrested by Russian MPs, and becomes the political prisoner that starts WW3 russians bust in on louis ck bustin 
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Feb 24, 2022 18:55
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SirTagz posted:Finland actually. There are indications from high level gov officials that their current position is being reevaluated due to the Ukraine situation Finland will gladly step on the same piece of poo poo just so they don't have to feel left out.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:56
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this is devastating capitulation
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Feb 24, 2022 18:56
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Feb 24, 2022 18:56
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maybe the Russian army will get to practice their theater routine again if you catch my drift
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Feb 24, 2022 18:56
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brugroffil posted:The United States would not be justified in invading those countries in response. would launching a decades long blockade of ukraine have been better
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Feb 24, 2022 18:56
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Raskolnikov38 posted:would launching a decades long blockade of ukraine have been better No, as similarly Cuba did not and does not pose any realistic military threat.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:57
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brugroffil posted:The United States would not be justified in invading those countries in response. And how many US invasions did that stop?
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Feb 24, 2022 18:57
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Raskolnikov38 posted:would launching a decades long blockade of ukraine have been better the blockade of cuba is definitely less bad than us just invading cuba, yeah
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Feb 24, 2022 18:58
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brugroffil posted:No, as similarly Cuba did not and does not pose any realistic military threat. it posed the same threat as ukraine, a military base for a hostile power
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Feb 24, 2022 18:58
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Absolutely no one believes Russia attacked Ukraine because Putin believes he's threatened by NATO.
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lol
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Koirhor posted:NATO dude talking, to Ukraine: we see you we hear you!
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Feb 24, 2022 18:58
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Lostconfused posted:And how many US invasions did that stop? None? The discussion is whether it's justified, not whether justification actually means anything if nobody is willing to risk going nuclear to stop you.
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Feb 24, 2022 18:58
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brugroffil posted:The United States would not be justified in invading those countries in response. nobody’s saying it would be justified, but they would 100% invade those countries in response. poo poo, the US drat near tried to invade Cuba in the 60s over the exact same issue and they don’t share a land border. agree or disagree?
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Feb 24, 2022 18:59
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Raskolnikov38 posted:it posed the same threat as ukraine, a military base for a hostile power So both are unjustified. What is this weird gotcha you're trying here? e: Fly Molo posted:nobody’s saying it would be justified, but they would 100% invade those countries in response. poo poo, the US drat near tried to invade Cuba in the 60s over the exact same issue and they don’t share a land border. agree or disagree? Uh yes some people actually are saying it's justified which is what I'm responding to. What is this weird assumption that any statement of Russia being poo poo is some sort of justification of anything the US/west has or will do? lol
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Feb 24, 2022 18:59
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brugroffil posted:None? The discussion is whether it's justified, not whether justification actually means anything if nobody is willing to risk going nuclear to stop you. ur the only one having that discussion afaict, the rest of us are just posting
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Feb 24, 2022 19:00
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why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract
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Feb 24, 2022 19:00
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract ya exactly
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Feb 24, 2022 19:00
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract it is the hippo
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Feb 24, 2022 19:00
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nuclear powers invading and counter-invading non-nuclear countries until they brush up against each other everywhere and then it's just the cold war but way worse let's do it dumbest timeline let's go
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Feb 24, 2022 19:00
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https://twitter.com/JavierBlas/status/1496887607422291968
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Feb 24, 2022 19:00
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there is no such thing as 'justification'.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:01
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract theyre liberals op
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Feb 24, 2022 19:01
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brugroffil posted:The United States would not be justified in invading those countries in response. Teacher! Teacher! There's all these countries that aren't following the Rules Based International Order!
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Feb 24, 2022 19:02
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract people can't separate "this is how we got here" as an examination of root cause with "and because there is a rationale, it is also justified"
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Feb 24, 2022 19:02
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brugroffil posted:So both are unjustified. What is this weird gotcha you're trying here? that powers dont like openly hostile states on their borders and its hypocrisy to act like only russia has been agro on the issue
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Feb 24, 2022 19:03
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract sorry but the hippo despite killing more animals at the waterhole was morally justified in each of those cases than the perfidious hyena
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Feb 24, 2022 19:03
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https://www.rt.com/russia/550505-kremlin-presents-demands-kiev/quote:Moscow is willing to negotiate terms of surrender with Kiev regarding the ongoing Russian military offensive currently taking place in Ukraine, Kremlin Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:03
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I was thinking about it, and I’ll pull the papers on what we (Canada) were training Azov in, but is it possible that we were training a hard core of ideologically motivated ethnic nationalist militiamen with the idea that the Ukrainian Army would buckle and Azov would be “The Mujahideen” in that Afghanistan fantasy scenario the NatSec people have been chattering about? Because that makes a lot of sense to me if all the diplomatic and policy signals suggest the goal was to bait Russia in. It may also explain why the only military aid was man portable AT/AA weapons. It would be a comically bloodthirsty plan, but Stingers and Javelins are the kind of weapons you’d give an insurgency, not a regular army hoping to stop a committed attack.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:04
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vyelkin posted:honest question, which other countries do you think are going to join NATO after this? Well, Sweden/Finland are the obvious ones, where support--or at least consideration--of joining NATO had already been gradually increasing. But apart from that, this will increase the militarization of and defense spending in eastern European NATO states above what would have otherwise occurred. I think you are right that Putin is trying to consolidate what he can, while he can. I'm not sure the urgency wrt Ukraine was really there, though. Despite posturing from the US and the ramblings of an idiot comedian-king, there was no way Ukraine was going to join NATO with ongoing territorial disputes. I think Putin has been growing frustrated with his options and diplomatic intransigence from the west, and has decided to just gamble now and deal with future problems later.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:04
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hajime no hippo: the fighting!!
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Feb 24, 2022 19:05
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract Because no one in this forum has any power or agency about this situation other than trying to be correct and insulting other posters. The hell else is there to do here, dude?
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Feb 24, 2022 19:05
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Control Volume posted:Because no one in this forum has any power or agency about this situation other than being correct and insulting other posters. The hell else is there to do here, dude? tane
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Feb 24, 2022 19:05
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Control Volume posted:Because no one in this forum has any power or agency about this situation other than being correct and insulting other posters. The hell else is there to do here, dude? well according to yospos, joining the canadian military
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Feb 24, 2022 19:05
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract The West Wing and post 1991 politics.
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract It's a war crime against the Geneva convention to go first. So you gotta do a big song and dance about how actually it's the other guy who went first
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