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Frosted Flake posted:It would be a comically bloodthirsty plan three letter agency mindset in action Raskolnikov38 posted:well according to yospos, joining the canadian military i feel like this would accomplish even less
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I'm still not sure how the whole "demilitarize and denazify ukraine, leave a more supportive government, quick n' easy" plan is supposed to go Like if they annihilate Ukraine's military (artillery, air force, etc), won't that just leave the country up for grabs for whichever militia has the most guns (and the guns will pour in due to foreign backing) as soon as Russian forces leave? (or even before that, given Russia's track record fighting insurgencies) And if the nazi battallions did indeed pussyfoot it all the way back to Poland as soon as the war started (lol), they'd be in a prime position to increase their power as soon as the country became a free-for-all after the collapse of the central government. Who would even be part of the supposed "friendlier/puppet/client government" everyone's thinking of? Like I just can't see the scenario where a ~regime change~ is a viable alternative that doesn't lead to an endless bog of an attrition war.
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mastershakeman posted:It's a war crime against the Geneva convention to go first. So you gotta do a big song and dance about how actually it's the other guy who went first A little bit of warcrimes never stopped anyone.
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https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/1496889104524451843
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Raskolnikov38 posted:well according to yospos, joining the canadian military Gong to rewatch the ark scene from the indiana jones and consider if I really want to know what this is about.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:07
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Control Volume posted:Because no one in this forum has any power or agency about this situation other than trying to be correct and insulting other posters. The hell else is there to do here, dude? Pepe Silvia Browne posted:all you can do is watch, hoot, and holler
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Feb 24, 2022 19:08
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Frosted Flake posted:I was thinking about it, and I’ll pull the papers on what we (Canada) were training Azov in, but is it possible that we were training a hard core of ideologically motivated ethnic nationalist militiamen with the idea that the Ukrainian Army would buckle and Azov would be “The Mujahideen” in that Afghanistan fantasy scenario the NatSec people have been chattering about? that and also to influence internal Ukraine politics via maintaining a set of activatable fascist cells in case there’s any meaningful hostility to capital or nato. zelenski’s actions make a lot more sense if he’s more afraid of forces from Ukraine than forces from Russia
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Feb 24, 2022 19:08
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guys i'm beginning to suspect humans are really stupid and are ultimately doomed to extinct themselves
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mastershakeman posted:It's a war crime against the Geneva convention to go first. So you gotta do a big song and dance about how actually it's the other guy who went first To be fair this goes all the way back to the Romans who insisted that conquering most of the known world was just a byproduct of a string of defensive wars
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Feb 24, 2022 19:09
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pancake rabbit posted:i've been in work meetings all morning and am very late to this but what is the strategic value in capturing what is arguably the most blighted unusable land on the face of the earth the chernobyl exclusion zone is much larger than the area actually affected by the disaster. most of it is just a nice nature park that's been open to tourists for a decade. i very much doubt the seizure of it has anything much to do with the actual irradiated zone.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:09
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in case you were wondering what the general turkey hired to kidnap gulen thinks about this situation
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SexyBlindfold posted:I'm still not sure how the whole "demilitarize and denazify ukraine, leave a more supportive government, quick n' easy" plan is supposed to go well if that RT story posted about Putin’s terms is right, it seems like regime change isn’t actually on the table
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Control Volume posted:Because no one in this forum has any power or agency about this situation other than trying to be correct and insulting other posters. The hell else is there to do here, dude? Brown Moses emerged from this cesspool. Do not underestimate our power.
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SexyBlindfold posted:I'm still not sure how the whole "demilitarize and denazify ukraine, leave a more supportive government, quick n' easy" plan is supposed to go they will be greeted as liberators (might actually be true in those provinces that tried to leave but nowhere else)
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Feb 24, 2022 19:10
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Is this supposed to be surprising? Just like the US is continuing its buying of Russian oil. Did this guy really set himself up to successfully predict something that was always going to happen?
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QUEER FRASIER posted:why are people so attached to determining who is “justified” or “the bad guy” in regional geopolitical conflicts. what a bizarre way to conceptualize modern nation-states. you might as well watch a video of wild animals fighting and spend hours arguing about which animal is breaking the social contract The Nation as a geopolitical unit is inherently bad, and the badness is especially concentrated in certain places like Russia's western border, mostly due to its geography and not the moral virtue of its leadership.
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https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1496899631493570562
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Joementum posted:in case you were wondering what the general turkey hired to kidnap gulen thinks about this situation The standup comic disagrees. Now is the time for unity in the face of Asian agression. https://twitter.com/TimJDillon/status/1496871646271000577?s=20&t=b8ZjA2flfIpxXTR8_uj0eg
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Control Volume posted:Because no one in this forum has any power or agency about this situation other than trying to be correct and insulting other posters. The hell else is there to do here, dude? I also badly trained Afghan soldiers, and badly trained Canadian soldiers that trained Ukrainians. This is all my fault.
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Control Volume posted:Gong to rewatch the ark scene from the indiana jones and consider if I really want to know what this is about. Would recommend, it's very funny.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:11
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https://twitter.com/UPL1FT/status/1496707126873534470
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Ukranian media is now reporting that russia has landed 20 transport Helicopters in each of two airports, Hostomil and Gostomil looks like russia is building towards a decapitation strike. Also America is planning to launch a massive cyberattack against russia so lol we're all gonna die for sure.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:12
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lol
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Where the gently caress is the white house in all this. Why hasn't Biden made a speech or something he only has a few hours till sundown
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Feb 24, 2022 19:12
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maybe Iran will assassinate Spider-Man and SpongeBob after all.
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Clear sky over Ukraine. Dima the bear emerges from hibernation at noon and casts no shadow over Chernobyl. Early spring for Russian friends making friendly call to Pripyat.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:12
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https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1496904283190661126?t=jtvogQuTu8IwEH6yZaLaxg&s=19 Advisors are telling biden to commit acts of war lol
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Lmao Ukraine invasion is no big deal and yet simultaneously a massive indictment of Biden just amazing mental gymnastics within a single tweet.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:12
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try not to post obvious fake poo poo like this please.
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Feb 24, 2022 19:13
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Al-Saqr posted:Also America is planning to launch a massive cyberattack against russia so lol we're all gonna die for sure. You cannot call posting a cyberattack!!
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1496904283190661126?t=jtvogQuTu8IwEH6yZaLaxg&s=19 we love the cyber, don't we folks
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Feb 24, 2022 19:13
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why would AZOV defect to Russia aren't they the most hardline
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Frosted Flake posted:I was thinking about it, and I’ll pull the papers on what we (Canada) were training Azov in, but is it possible that we were training a hard core of ideologically motivated ethnic nationalist militiamen with the idea that the Ukrainian Army would buckle and Azov would be “The Mujahideen” in that Afghanistan fantasy scenario the NatSec people have been chattering about? Ukraine is a flat loving field whose principal strategic value for Russia is simply the additional physical separation it provides. There is not going to be any Mujahedeen style insurgency, because there doesn't need to be any durable occupation--especially in the highly federalized post-invasion buffer state that would emerge after the disruption of the central government. Which is not, of course, any guarantee against the smoothest brains in western natsec conceiving of something like that...
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Al-Saqr posted:
Maybe they can get my stolen csgo account back USA! USA! USA!
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Morbus posted:Well, Sweden/Finland are the obvious ones, where support--or at least consideration--of joining NATO had already been gradually increasing. But apart from that, this will increase the militarization of and defense spending in eastern European NATO states above what would have otherwise occurred. Sweden has come out and said that the invasion hasnt changed their views on this. Finland will likely not join either. Honestly Russia/China benefit from countries being neutral. They are ok with engaging countries from a purely economical standpoint. They know that organizations like NATO are not just a defense pact, its an economic sphere that prevents them from engaging fully with countries that the US classifies as adversaries. Economic pressure from these organizations are meant to help destabilize the adversaries without actually going to war. So, are sanctions and these sort of actions "justified" because they aren't technically war even though their purpose are the same?
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lolwut
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SexyBlindfold posted:I'm still not sure how the whole "demilitarize and denazify ukraine, leave a more supportive government, quick n' easy" plan is supposed to go if the Ukrainian military is reduced to a pile of ashes (or close enough to it), then it has no hope of retaking Donetsk and Luhansk for the next however many years if they can't retake Donetsk and Luhansk, then they can't join NATO mission accomplished even if for whatever reason the government remains pro-Western
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Al-Saqr posted:Ukranian media is now reporting that russia has landed 20 transport Helicopters in each of two airports, Hostomil and Gostomil looks like russia is building towards a decapitation strike. The cyber attack will accomplish jack, no one's going to start ww3 over Ukraine then again I also thought there would be no invasion until Putin did his speech on THE NEO-RUSSIAN EMPIRE so who knows
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not sure which is funnier, this or the black panther guy either way lmao
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Al-Saqr posted:Ukranian media is now reporting that russia has landed 20 transport Helicopters in each of two airports, Hostomil and Gostomil looks like russia is building towards a decapitation strike. There's a non-zero chance this will disrupt the release of Elden Ring.
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