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Zurtilik posted:Pretty sure multiple mods said NOT to do this. It's fine to do this but also broken clock for US intelligence. They were right to be skeptical.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:22
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Zurtilik posted:Pretty sure multiple mods said NOT to do this. I didn't know. I rarely read C-Spam and catching up on how quickly this thread gets posts is a lot. However, I will happily cop a ban/probation over it.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:23
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It's pointless to try moralizing great power politics. It's all awful end to end. All of them are bad and doing terrible things across the globe. Trying to find unique villains is falling for someone's propaganda and is inevitably overlooking some other great power's culpability in creating the situation.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:23
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Lustful Man Hugs posted:So does Putin have an endgame here? I can't imagine neutral disarmament is going to be an option for Ukraine after this (even if they promise it in the short term). So are the Russians going to go for a regime change instead? Regime changed with some light annexation to link Crimea to mainland Russia, as a treat
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Feb 25, 2022 01:23
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Femur posted:Lol i love how rich people hate kids. Rich people love kids, don't you read the Epstein thread?
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Feb 25, 2022 01:23
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500 good dogs posted:lol they really did, absolutely zero support on the ground as they're getting destroyed It's funny how people keep on putting such a level of faith in western organizations like NATO and the EU. Especially how the EU/NATO instigated a high-risk expansion and then cut + run when it went south.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:23
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:Whaaat? You mean its not because Putin is an addled strongman desperately clutching at relevance and his country's long gone glory days as his body and mind deteriorates? There's a valid geopolitical objective??? I mean, if you consider imperialism a valid geopolitical objective, sure.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:23
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Lustful Man Hugs posted:So does Putin have an endgame here? I can't imagine neutral disarmament is going to be an option for Ukraine after this (even if they promise it in the short term). So are the Russians going to go for a regime change instead? If you're going to invade you may as well install a puppet Or probably ideally for him he gets Zelensky to fall in line by exposing the west as fairweather friends
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Feb 25, 2022 01:23
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papersack posted:It's fine to do this but also broken clock for US intelligence. They were right to be skeptical. Thats more where I was at. They were saying imminent for a month.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:24
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Hrmm okay fair a good take
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Feb 25, 2022 01:24
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I was unfortunately and sadly, wrong.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:24
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Budzilla posted:Before you hit the quote/reply button. I am not smug over this post unsure what you want people to be introspective of. Trusting the US government? That's the reason why I didn't think they'd invade until Monday.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:25
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Zurtilik posted:I was unfortunately and sadly, wrong. shut up
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Feb 25, 2022 01:25
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pass the popcorn please
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Feb 25, 2022 01:26
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Budzilla posted:Before you hit the quote/reply button. I am not smug over this post I'm glad you got the war you wanted. Was it everything you hoped for?
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Feb 25, 2022 01:26
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really queer Christmas posted:unsure what you want people to be introspective of. Trusting the US government? That's the reason why I didn't think they'd invade until Monday. maybe next time the cia tells you something don't be so quick to dismiss fella 
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Feb 25, 2022 01:26
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Max Boot AND David Frum with this take, now! https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1496967376486686730 It's so affirming to see people learn from their own mistakes
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Feb 25, 2022 01:27
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Chemtrailologist posted:gonna take another look at this havana syndrome thing with a more open mind
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Feb 25, 2022 01:28
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i will never trust us intelligence and you can't make me
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Feb 25, 2022 01:29
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david frump
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Feb 25, 2022 01:29
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My garbage disposal is starting to smell despite the lemons I’m putting down there, how does this apply to the maneuvering of great powers?
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Feb 25, 2022 01:29
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Zurtilik posted:Because people are using a tragedy to own their posting enemies? https://twitter.com/richarddawkins/status/336048706853937152
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Feb 25, 2022 01:29
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look everyone says "believe victims" so i was just believing the biggest victim here, poor zelensky, who said that the US was wrong about an imminent attack
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Feb 25, 2022 01:30
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CaptainACAB posted:oh i wanted to post the Only Correct Take here, since i see everyone losing it in the forest: Quoting for this page
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Feb 25, 2022 01:30
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Budzilla posted:Before you hit the quote/reply button. I am not smug over this post lmao I love that you think the lesson here is not to be skeptical of the state dept line.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:30
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Budzilla posted:Before you hit the quote/reply button. I am not smug over this post
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Feb 25, 2022 01:30
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Yeah, the unverified reports from the US aren’t enough on their own and a troop build up while ominous isn’t a sign of an invasion. It is when the peacekeepers came in and the other troops didn’t move back, it was clear it wasn’t just a bluff. If the lesson is “always trust US intelligence,” I don’t think that one is going to fly especially since they jumped the gun multiple times from bad intel. Granted, I also think, there was always some chance of invasion, it just only became more certain much closer to the actual date. (That said, I think a lot of it just boiled to posting vendettas more anything else so meh w/e.) Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:34 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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Feb 25, 2022 01:31
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Ardennes posted:Also, it is going to take time to take random guys off the street and make them in any way usable as soldiers, not like literally 48 hours. Typically 8 months. So, in time to form the new, Pro-Russian army I guess.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:31
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https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/582516829920219136
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Feb 25, 2022 01:31
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this is why ukraine lost
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Feb 25, 2022 01:31
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Blaming this on the delusions of a madman is a loving easy out, but at the same time I don't see the upside for Putin here. The only way they get a firm W is if they meet their own demands, annihilation of the Ukrainan military (lol) and recognizition of the breakaway states, through force and then immediately leave. Putin gets to look strong, NATO looks weak, the baltic states are shown that NATO wont protect them, and Russia reiterates that they could have been appeased. I don't loving know anything anymore.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:31
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Budzilla posted:I didn't know. I rarely read C-Spam and catching up on how quickly this thread gets posts is a lot.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:31
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frankenfreak posted:Curious how you had all those receipts handy when you don't read C-SPAM that often. I am very smart. Let him gloat, what else is the dog gonna do when it catches the car?
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Feb 25, 2022 01:33
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Mantis42 posted:https://twitter.com/ThoSinning/status/1496955306282307586?s=20&t=xFwxepKfVTtOvI_7BCXMKw No loving way they reportedly just opened the portal again
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Feb 25, 2022 01:33
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Majorian posted:lmao I love that you think the lesson here is not to be skeptical of the state dept line. I dunno about Budzilla and yeah the American foreign policy apparatus is not to be trusted but the evidence for all this poo poo was plain to see for a couple weeks. The CIA didn't conjure hundreds of thousands of Russian troops on Ukraine's border.
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Feb 25, 2022 01:33
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I'm glad you got the war you wanted. Was it everything you hoped for?
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Feb 25, 2022 01:33
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I support whichever side the werewolves are on they're so dreamy
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Feb 25, 2022 01:33
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Budzilla posted:Why would I be hopeful for war? You will need better bait than that. Out of curiosity, why did you think there would be an invasion?
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Feb 25, 2022 01:34
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao he is just now figuring this out lmao Not clear to me at all. Saying it earlier while there was still some margin for doubt might have gotten him couped.
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