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FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

SchrodingersCat posted:

If the United States and Russia were direct neighbors, yes.

I think the US would have a lot of trouble projecting force all the way to Russia.

Russia vs the entire combined might of NATO is not even a contest.

It's all moot since nuclear powers will never engage in direct warfare. NATO abandoning Ukraine with effectively no retribution for Russia proves that.

Yeah people looking at the US defense spending numbers forget this. The US can steamroll Canada but the US fighting a war thousands of miles from its borders is always going to be tough.

Like the US is never saying it can take whomever in a straight fight. It's saying it can take them while it bounces on one leg and sings the national anthem backwards. I think any country that isn't a total crater like Iraq was before they even showed up is gonna be a way different story.

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Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
Footage outside Kharkiv

https://twitter.com/mahluklarcomtr/status/1497101203674701824

https://twitter.com/aleksandrov_76/status/1497101052834988039

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1497095689792372738

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019


Majorian posted:

This account is bullshit. They claimed that China was moving on Taiwan yesterday.

Most of the accounts on twitter are propagandist bullshit, but hes claiming this is coming from the MOD so...make of that what you will

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

Atrocious Joe posted:

Sen. Mark Warner went on a bunch of media and implied that cyber attacks against Ukraine by Russia could trigger Article 5 if they disrupt the internet in Poland

Big brain stuff
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1496854803732905986?s=20&t=LQi8MQphUdtBpjDSjGhXWQ

if cyberwar does not involve billions of people dead that is also preferable

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

welp looks like the guillotine is really close to the neck now

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

the krokodil orc poster has a whole article about the war crimes of Soviet partisans during the Continuation War
http://blog.vantagepointnorth.net/2019/12/forgotten-war-crimes-soviet-partisans.html

quote:

The Finnish counter partisan activity was conducted mainly via tracking the murderers with small Finnish “Sissi” units. Soviet partisans suffered heavy casualties when ever they encountered actual Finnish combat units. Undoubtedly the most notable commander of the units chasing the partisans was Lauri Törni, who later, under the name Larry Thorne, fought as a US Army Green Beret in Vietnam.

guess what unit Torni was in

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




luv crocodile orcs

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

that's about 90 km as the crow flies, or 130 km roughly following the roads, from the Belarus/Ukraine border near Chernobyl

in about... 30 hours?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Gresh posted:

Most of the accounts on twitter are propagandist bullshit, but hes claiming this is coming from the MOD so...make of that what you will

This is what they're saying:

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1497089931130421256

" Possible occupation of the occupier in Vorzel and surrounding settlements.
Fall and destroy the enemy."

From the replies it sounds like there's an expected clash there? Not clear, shockingly.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

gradenko_2000 posted:

that's about 90 km as the crow flies, or 130 km roughly following the roads, from the Belarus/Ukraine border near Chernobyl

in about... 30 hours?

that’s OK numbers for an invading army

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley

Atrocious Joe posted:

the krokodil orc poster has a whole article about the war crimes of Soviet partisans during the Continuation War
http://blog.vantagepointnorth.net/2019/12/forgotten-war-crimes-soviet-partisans.html

guess what unit Torni was in

He already said the guy was a Nazi though.

I mean, do you really think they'd let anyone who wasn't a fascist psychopath into the Green Berets?

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

soviet partisans as described by axis powers (yes, finland counts as a member) were universally people that did not want to get genocided for being slavic, jewish or roma

nerds reading this thread to get mad please quote me

:colbert:

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

ASB News is total nonsense.

How much of that footage is peace time stuff? The casualness is still weird to me. Like if there's active fighting and tanks are getting blown up and these tanks are taking up positions in the city you'd just drive around them? "loving tanks I gotta get to work!"

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Goast posted:

they accidentally found a swastika painted on the tail of a mothballed finnish fighter in some dusty warehouse a few years ago

tried to pass it off and paint it over as "that symbol meant something different to the finnish airforces" lmao

lol, a few years ago you say?

take a look at the current insignia of the finnish air force academy

Comrade Koba has issued a correction as of 08:04 on Feb 25, 2022

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Majorian posted:

This account is bullshit. They claimed that China was moving on Taiwan yesterday.

fake edit: not saying the news is false, I have no idea, I just wouldn't trust these idiots on anything.

this?
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496841285755363332?s=20&t=Ls7LErxXD0ZNY5AIgr-wcA
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496844039701811200?s=20&t=Ls7LErxXD0ZNY5AIgr-wcA

I'm suspicious of the account but they don't seem any worse than CNN.

edit: Most "OSINT" accounts are complete trash, that's just something people should know

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Either it's ground troops fighting over the same airbase earlier or the VDV have resurrected themselves somehow. Either way there are some Russians about 8km out from the capital.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497099622384349184

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1497101470889656328

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019


https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497099622384349184

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497101520382443553
100+ vehicles

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

this seems like a pretty chill war all things considered

deathbysnusnu
Feb 25, 2016


FuzzySlippers posted:

Yeah people looking at the US defense spending numbers forget this. The US can steamroll Canada but the US fighting a war thousands of miles from its borders is always going to be tough.

Like the US is never saying it can take whomever in a straight fight. It's saying it can take them while it bounces on one leg and sings the national anthem backwards. I think any country that isn't a total crater like Iraq was before they even showed up is gonna be a way different story.

No war against even 2nd rate powers is going to be a cakewalk for anyone. Now that everyone has cruise missiles blowing up the other guys stuff is super easy. We’d crater them more than they’d crater us but it would hardly be a victory for anyone.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

someone's lovely boss on the phone: I don't care if the russians are invading you get to work. They'll be hungry later just like anyone else

uncleTomOfFinland
May 25, 2008

Comrade Koba posted:

lol, a few years ago you say?

take a look at the current insignia of the finnish air force academy





they were so nazi that they had the swastika even before the nsdap existed!

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
so not only did the VDV antonov airport assault not fall it’s now linking up with the Russian ground forces and the south of Ukraine is being steamrolled.

not good news for ukranians

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

Comrade Koba posted:

lol, a few years ago you say?

take a look at the current insignia of the finnish air force academy



i had no idea lmao

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011

Danann posted:

Either it's ground troops fighting over the same airbase earlier or the VDV have resurrected themselves somehow. Either way there are some Russians about 8km out from the capital.
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497099622384349184

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1497101470889656328

Yea there is a lot of poo poo on fire

https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news/status/1497101377616723978

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

uncleTomOfFinland posted:



they were so nazi that they had the swastika even before the nsdap existed!

"we used it first, actually :smuggo:" doesn't fly post-1945, sorry

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

uncleTomOfFinland posted:



they were so nazi that they had the swastika even before the nsdap existed!

not really a brilliant idea to keep it. nobody wears pencil moustaches anymore either.

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011

Al-Saqr posted:

so not only did the VDV antonov airport assault not fall it’s now linking up with the Russian ground forces and the south of Ukraine is being steamrolled.

not good news for ukranians

Fighting is gonna be intense in the south today seems like:

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497104924928360472

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1497102215097597981

https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1497103971298603008

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1497102613237710876

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

Comrade Koba posted:

lol, a few years ago you say?

take a look at the current insignia of the finnish air force academy



How dare you slur the Finnish culture

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

uncleTomOfFinland posted:



they were so nazi that they had the swastika even before the nsdap existed!

the freikorps had that symbol painted on their helmets long before the nsdap existed as well

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

Comrade Koba posted:

"we used it first, actually :smuggo:" doesn't fly post-1945, sorry

Do you feel this way about Hindus too?

Daniel Dales Dick
Apr 8, 2020

”With the coldest winter ever recorded, with snow setting record levels up and down the coast, the Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore"

Atrocious Joe posted:

this?
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496841285755363332?s=20&t=Ls7LErxXD0ZNY5AIgr-wcA
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496844039701811200?s=20&t=Ls7LErxXD0ZNY5AIgr-wcA

I'm suspicious of the account but they don't seem any worse than CNN.

edit: Most "OSINT" accounts are complete trash, that's just something people should know

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496748483075883013

https://twitter.com/m_suchkov/status/1496735905809408001

That jackoff thinks they're an op. A lot of stuff they posted about troop movements the night of the invasion was wrong.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

FuzzySlippers posted:

ASB News is total nonsense.

How much of that footage is peace time stuff? The casualness is still weird to me. Like if there's active fighting and tanks are getting blown up and these tanks are taking up positions in the city you'd just drive around them? "loving tanks I gotta get to work!"

Sorry to tell you this but the world has been forcing people to go to work despite a deadly airborne pathogen for going on two years now

Tanks are nothing

uncleTomOfFinland
May 25, 2008

Comrade Koba posted:

"we used it first, actually :smuggo:" doesn't fly post-1945, sorry

personally I would have dropped it but really dont care that much, just pointing out obviously stupid and incorrect bullshit this thread seems feature quite enough of already

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Asproigerosis posted:

How dare you slur the Finnish culture

they can't even use the "muh HERITAGE" excuse, because the actual air force stopped using the swastika in 2017

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

uncleTomOfFinland posted:

personally I would have dropped it but really dont care that much, just pointing out obviously stupid and incorrect bullshit this thread seems feature quite enough of already

stupid incorrect bullshit such as the finns fighting the soviets alongside the nazis while waving nazi symbols on the tails of their warplanes

lmao

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
people posting about the casualness of it all:

its been a bit over 24hrs, most people don't understand that they now live in a warzone. it is a surreal experience. moreover there have been studies done on how slavs respond to high danger situations with indifference, so its a combination of all these things

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
So right now the areas to watch are Kherson and Kiev, those are the two current big areas of russian assault.

Whatever chances the Ukranians had at stopping an assault on Kiev is now meaningless now the the Antonov VDV have linked with russian ground forces

uncleTomOfFinland
May 25, 2008

Goast posted:

stupid incorrect bullshit such as the finns fighting the soviets alongside the nazis while waving nazi symbols on the tails of their warplanes

lmao

gee whiz i wonder if you are leaving something important out of this picture

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Daniel Dales Dick posted:

That jackoff thinks they're an op. A lot of stuff they posted about troop movements the night of the invasion was wrong.

US cable news was repeating the stuff about Odesa and Mariupol ASB got wrong too.

ASB is sympathetic to Russia and I wouldn't be surprised if there's some straight up Russia disinfo mixed in. People are also posting Michael Weiss, who's a psycho that repeats what he is told by the CIA. I figure it all sort of balances out.

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SchrodingersCat
Aug 23, 2011

FuzzySlippers posted:

Yeah people looking at the US defense spending numbers forget this. The US can steamroll Canada but the US fighting a war thousands of miles from its borders is always going to be tough.

Like the US is never saying it can take whomever in a straight fight. It's saying it can take them while it bounces on one leg and sings the national anthem backwards. I think any country that isn't a total crater like Iraq was before they even showed up is gonna be a way different story.

The entire reason the US spends so much on defense is because of the obscene distances that they actually want to be able to project force.

Russia, China, and other actors don't care so much about military matters on a global scale so they can focus on a much leaner military built for local and regional engagements where they can take terrain and set up forward bases to reconsolidate and then move towards their next objectives.

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