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I'm thinking you can game Settlement Transfers by reloading a few times or doing almost anything slightly differently and reloading a few times. Like reload 4 times, get hit by Transfer each time, wonder what I can do to affect this bullshit RNG, reload and do a nonsense NAP with some weenie faction far away, end turn and the Transfer doesn't happen. A cheesy possibility until modding lets me banish this bullshit. Pushing Northwest going better as Nurgle than last time, just got an interest free loan from Slaanesh.
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Feb 25, 2022 06:30
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Skarbrand is my friend in this Nurgle campaign even though we have been at war for most of it (my fault) That’s just how you know he likes you. He has helpfully killed N’Kari, we’re on realm trip #3 and he still has not once entered the chaos realms and we are about to turn Kislev into a thunder dome. Well, he’s already there, I’m gonna go join him.
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Feb 25, 2022 08:40
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Finished up as Ku'gath, and I gotta say the last battle is a lot less hectic when all your troops are absolute units with gigantic health pools. You just sorta grind everything down. Everyone's having a lovely time.
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Feb 25, 2022 09:01
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Alctel posted:I finished my first campaign (Kislev) on N/N Well you are fighting in the Forge of Souls where Soul Grinders come from.
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Feb 25, 2022 09:04
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Welp I was enjoying my Kislev campaign but now it's hanging on the Orthodoxy's turn every time I end mine. Guess I'll wait for some more patching
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Feb 25, 2022 09:47
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I, Nurgle, am about to fight a siege on an orc settlement as reinforcements for my skaven buddies with my norsca army that I borrowed in tow. Peak warhammer.
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Feb 25, 2022 09:54
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Also, gotta say, Crumbling Ague is, like, THE plague. I mean the plague mechanic is a lot of fun and I was making GBS threads plagues all over the place for the entire game, but holy poo poo could they stack Crumbling Ague any harder? Huge replenishment buff AND vanguard deployment for the entire army? AND it causes attrition to your enemies? AND I can instantly refresh it (assuming I have enough infections, which I always do) at will? Hooooly gently caress. I really want to revisit Nurgle on the big map, both to see if I can actually afford more than a half stack for a second army, and to spread plague over the world like Papa Nurgle demands. I loved the plague that Pestilens gets, so this is like that on steroids (but with a much slower army). Also, Nurgle Soul Grinders absolutely delete anything that stands still for too long. Katarin thought she could roll up on me with a bunch of Kossars and Streltsi to shoot me to death, but I had 4 soul grinders and Ku'gath. 
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Feb 25, 2022 10:00
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Playing as Nurgle is the only time I've ever seen a Crushing Defeat show up on my autoresolve odds. Played the match and got a close victory. What's even weird is I can fight a half stack of nurgle and still come off a decisive loss against them on autoresolve. What the gently caress have they got hidden away that makes me worse off?
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Feb 25, 2022 10:16
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They are amazing, I have 4 running with Ku'Gath and they make a glorious mess of infantry heavy armies.
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Feb 25, 2022 10:18
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Ibblebibble posted:
Now do it as Nurgle
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Feb 25, 2022 10:31
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I have three Nurgle stacks now, all good quality one is a little short of units but has six beasts so it does fine. I'm staying ahead of things by just going hog wild in the chaos realms fighting every thing that shows up because those are big money battles. I use those to pump up the infrastructure. I think I have four provinces and change one being fairly recent. Nurgle rolls it's own way with economy. I have no idea why it's working this way, but as long as I keep building the stuff and just slowly expanding outward, every couple of turns my fill stack gets bigger until it's a viable army instead of just spot defense. My crumbling agues can roll for like 12 turns from reinfection so every turn I start a plus three turn/plus 150 favor plague in one of my towns and sometimes I notice I have like 1k when I'm running a slight deficit. Just try to keep it at a net zero, nature of the buildings makes it so I feel like everything is working as it should if it is anywhere from -500/turn to +500/turn. If it goes above that, recruit a unit. If it goes below that, go take a town. There is the same issue with some of the races in the previous games. You don't have an economy unless you go out and get it. Nurgle seems to be the first faction I've found where "Loot and Settle" is my go to option when I hit a town. Once you get the techs your new town has three growth points and all your economy buildings are also your defensive buildings. There's three, I put one of each. Nurgle city building is not exciting. I just have the starting province as a unit generator and it's only the high tier flyers and GUOs that are in short supply.
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Feb 25, 2022 10:40
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Third World Reagan posted:The rebellions can be taken out by garrisons Can you explain this? The rebels don't siege, and the garrisons can't leave the settlement. So how do you get them to meet and greet?
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Feb 25, 2022 11:30
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I had a bad time in Tzeentch's realm until I savescummed the poo poo out of it. My first couple tries, the Nurgle daemon faction managed to snatch it ahead of me, despite them getting badly depleted in a battle where somehow we allied up against the local Tzeentch armies, despite us not having any sorts of treaty together, though we weren't at war with one another. I returned to the post-battle save and murdered the poo poo out of the Nurgle daemon, where my absolute dogshit daemon prince flailed uselessly at the incredibly buff 8000-HP fat nurgle wizard. gently caress Daniel's useless rear end build-a-bear parts, he's so weak. Fortunately, the rest of my army ate his alive, so he dissolved. I actually autoresolved the Tzeentch battle after going in and seeing it was going to just be a Tzeentch-flavored copy of the Nurgle special siege battle... but with even more annoying and powerful of enemy units, that just shat on all the towers I made during the first 1/3rd of the mission.
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Feb 25, 2022 11:37
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Bloodly posted:Can you explain this? The rebels don't siege, and the garrisons can't leave the settlement. So how do you get them to meet and greet? The rebels do siege but they may take a few turns. Generally they raid and build up forces then siege. The amount they raid for isn't a huge deal and you still come out with a net positive. If you do want to put them down with an army, you can do it with a smaller army.
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Feb 25, 2022 11:37
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I like that they've changed ambush battles so that ambushed armies can escape if they handle it properly. It actually makes it a race to tangle them up and let as little get away as you can instead of the AI just marching to a point, stopping and going braindead.
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Feb 25, 2022 11:51
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The AI mostly decides to make a run for it in ambush battles, leading to me annihilating most of his army without him fighting back. It's very weird
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Feb 25, 2022 12:12
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Has anyone effort posted about (early) cathay army comp? I got whooped in the mirror match as the favored daughter. Battle took forever as well.
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Feb 25, 2022 12:19
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I find the enemy leader runs for it but most of his army tries to fight back. Maybe its because I'm slaanesh so they know they can't outrun my stuff?
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Feb 25, 2022 12:19
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How do you deal with the insane ai focus on you as demons of chaos? You start the game with Kislev being able to see you so there's no escape.
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Feb 25, 2022 12:27
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Jarvisi posted:How do you deal with the insane ai focus on you as demons of chaos? You start the game with Kislev being able to see you so there's no escape. befriend the norscans and have them help or wait for the first portal and don't go in let the rebellions start spawning inside kislev and then move in to grab some land you will be behind on the soul race but you can catch up also maybe go mono god like nurgle for your first province or tzeentch to unlock some good parts fast
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Feb 25, 2022 12:36
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Jarvisi posted:How do you deal with the insane ai focus on you as demons of chaos? You start the game with Kislev being able to see you so there's no escape. murder them
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Feb 25, 2022 12:40
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Carcer posted:I like that they've changed ambush battles so that ambushed armies can escape if they handle it properly. It actually makes it a race to tangle them up and let as little get away as you can instead of the AI just marching to a point, stopping and going braindead. Also good for when you get ambushed by smaller armies with a big reinforcement one, because you can just nuke the enemy lord and leave. There's even a button for it! That being said, usually I just nuke the smaller army and reform my line unless i'm out of ammo.
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I've yet to be ambushed as slaanesh but I'm pretty sure I can just outrun most of the ambushers anyway.
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Collapsing Farts posted:murder them It's a lot harder to do that when you're not skarbrand! Also tried to start a tzeench game today and holy gently caress
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Kazzah posted:I just saw a Kislevite general named Evgeni Koshka which I'm pretty sure means Eugene Pussy Yes it's a direct equivalent to "pussy" double meaning and all Watch out for that guy he sounds like a slaaneshi double agent.
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Feb 25, 2022 13:07
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Twigand Berries posted:Nurgle seems to be the first faction I've found where "Loot and Settle" is my go to option when I hit a town. Once you get the techs your new town has three growth points and all your economy buildings are also your defensive buildings. There's three, I put one of each. Nurgle city building is not exciting. I just have the starting province as a unit generator and it's only the high tier flyers and GUOs that are in short supply. That's also my observation. Doesn't seem to be any point in just taking the city without sacking it first - it doesn't help with maintaing the buildings, and by the time you're on a serious offensive your corruption is probably dominant in the region so no worries about control.
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Finished my first Kislev campaign on H/N, after 2 failed starts and a failed Boris start. The Good: Kislev definitely holds up to the feeling of fighting against the end of the world. You are the bulwark against Chaos, Norscan's and whoever else wants to pick a fight. Your military allies are basically useless, and your economy is too poo poo to field pop-up armies to properly expand. Crawling forward an inch at a time over the bloody corpses of those who came before is exhilarating and the money gained by slaughtering demons means that the negative you run into won't matter as much. War Sleds are what War Wagons should be, Bear Riders are what Demigryph's should be. My first playthrough I lost so many Boyar's and Patriarch's as provinces and lords became meat for the grinder to keep the world in one piece... until. The Bad: The Chaos Realms, the CHAOS REALMS. It's unrewarding to go there, It takes your LL out of the group when you cannot afford to field many armies. It's a race which means you either have to start murdering the other factions (Which, in turn, means stretching yourself even thinner not protecting or consolidating your lands.) Your economy is hosed from the get-go in a way that isn't fun and keeping everything together is near impossible. The main issue is I love the Chaos Rifts! They're a loving cool feature and should definitely be in Immortal Empires, but the Realms themselves suck.
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Mr. Grapes! posted:Hi guys, Warhams 2 question: As for getting him to fire, he is so stealthy that unless you leave him out to dry for cavalry to swarm, you shouldn't really need him behind allies so he should always have line of sight. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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Feb 25, 2022 13:52
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Kislev's economy isnt helped by the fact that its economy buildings suck rear end. 2000 gold for the tier 2 income building to go up by 50 income (100 to 150) then 4000 gold for another 50 (150 to 200) is loving rear end. They got the growth/PO building right in that it goes 20 => 40 => 60 growth and 1 => 2 => 3 PO for the three tiers so its actually kinda worth it for the extra dosh. I swear to god there must be some rear end in a top hat at CA who is involved with balancing the economy buildings that thinks the above is fair and balanced. Probably the same guy that tried nerfing port income.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Kislev's economy isnt helped by the fact that its economy buildings suck rear end. 2000 gold for the tier 2 income building to go up by 50 income (100 to 150) then 4000 gold for another 50 (150 to 200) is loving rear end. They got the growth/PO building right in that it goes 20 => 40 => 60 growth and 1 => 2 => 3 PO for the three tiers so its actually kinda worth it for the extra dosh. I really think the oblasts are supposed to feel like secondary concerns to these huge jeweled cities. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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Feb 25, 2022 13:56
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Ravenfood posted:The market building in their capitol slots has no such issue. That goes up by 200/tier and gives a +1% bonus to all markets everywhere, and costs are very reasonable too.
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Feb 25, 2022 14:00
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Yeah, I didn't really have much issue with the economy as Kislev, though I didn't get that far before the patch. By the time the first rifts appeared, I had a full second stack that could defend the starting provinces while Katarin went chaos hunting.
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Broken Cog posted:Yeah, I didn't really have much issue with the economy as Kislev, though I didn't get that far before the patch. By the time the first rifts appeared, I had a full second stack that could defend the starting provinces while Katarin went chaos hunting. You're playing as the easy mode Kislev faction. Again, Kostaltin and Boris dont get the good poo poo from major settlements like Katarin does, so saying you dont have an issue with the economy when you specifically have something that the others dont is kinda funny. The city of Kislev gets the stuff Ravenfood talked about *and* a landmark that increases local income by a crazy %, which is something else Kostaltin and Boris do not get unless they confederate Katarin. Ravenfood posted:I really think the oblasts are supposed to feel like secondary concerns to these huge jeweled cities.
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Speaking of, how long does it take to get the Boris unlock quest? I didn't get it in the time I had to play so far.
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Rasputin economy is fine. Build more winerys. Get the resource chains that boost them. Get erengrad or hellpit. Fight demons for cash.
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Feb 25, 2022 14:24
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Broken Cog posted:Speaking of, how long does it take to get the Boris unlock quest? I didn't get it in the time I had to play so far. Third World Reagan posted:Rasputin economy is fine.  Fighting for cash is fine if you can get fights, the AI is a little cowardly so sometimes they are hard to come by, even with Ambush Baiting, which I am getting sick of abusing to make the game fun.
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edit: has anyone tried stacking the Ice Maiden/Wtich traits that reduce Little Grom and/or War Sled upkeep reductions? With 3 of either trait you could run a really cheap War Sled and Little Grom stack, which would probably be fun. Oh and with lord upkeep reduction skills maybe those units would be effectively free? edit2: post is not edit, sorry for the doublepost
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canada jezus posted:Has anyone effort posted about (early) cathay army comp? I got whooped in the mirror match as the favored daughter. Battle took forever as well. There's honestly not much to say. Your celestial dragon is OP and can be run as a single person doomstack. Don't bother with magistrates - run dragon blooded shugenjan for the rest of your lords. Cathayan cavalry is generally bad. Jade Warriors with harmony are effectively dwarf warriors - and with an armour value of 80 hard counter peasant spearmen and peasant archers (who do only 1 point of AP damage with their arrows). Ironhail Gunners are for checkerboarding - and for keeping harmony with the melee line. Oh, and Cathay cavalry is bad - but better than not having cavalry at all.
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