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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

a primate posted:

looking forward to Ukrainian militias flying a plane into the Sears tower in a few decades

you’re wrong

it’s called the Willis Tower now.

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frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


did Azov even do anything this war?

Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

It pisses me off living in Northern Alabama because everything is XXX VON BRAUN or XXX WERNER VON BRAUN CENTER

lol for real? Like I’m one south of a whole state called named after a guy with slave teeth for dentures and every other street is named after either a tree or a historical monster, but having places named after paperclip dudes is just alarming.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

frajaq posted:

did Azov even do anything this war?

yea man they were busy. They got blown up, possibly merc'd by rando Ukrainian anti-fascists, and ran like bitches into the woods.

FORUMS USER 1135
Jan 14, 2004

brugroffil posted:

I know Cyrano has some... questionable past posts but he did his PhD (?) on post war denazification I think and has written up a bunch on it in various threads over the years. The milhist one in a/t has a bunch
This section from Postwar by Tony Judt has been stuck in my brain ever since I first read it:

quote:

By the time the western Allies abandoned their denazification efforts with the coming of the Cold War, it was clear that these had had a decidedly limited impact. In Bavaria about half the secondary schoolteachers had been fired by 1946, only to be back in their jobs two years later. In 1949 the newly-established Federal Republic ended all investigations of the past behaviour of civil servants and army officers.

In Bavaria in 1951, 94 percent of judges and prosecutors, 77 percent of finance ministry employees and 60 percent of civil servants in the regional Agriculture Ministry were ex-Nazis. By 1952 one in three of Foreign Ministry officials in Bonn was a former member of the Nazi Party. Of the newly-constituted West German Diplomatic Corps, 43 percent were former SS men and another 17 percent had served in the SD or Gestapo. Hans Globke, Chancellor Adenauer’s chief aide throughout the 1950s, was the man who had been responsible for the official commentary on Hitler’s 1935 Nuremberg Laws. The chief of police in the Rhineland-Palatinate, Wilhelm Hauser, was the Obersturmführer responsible for wartime massacres in Byelorussia.

The same pattern held true outside the civil service. Universities and the legal profession were the least affected by denazification, despite their notorious sympathy for Hitler’s regime. Businessmen also got off lightly. Friedrich Flick, convicted as a war criminal in 1947, was released three years later by the Bonn authorities and restored to his former eminence as the leading shareholder in Daimler-Benz. Senior figures in the incriminated industrial combines of I.G. Farben and Krupp were all released early and re-entered public life little the worse for wear. By 1952 Fordwerke, the German branch of Ford Motor Company, had reassembled all its senior management from the Nazi years. Even the Nazi judges and concentration camp doctors convicted under American jurisdiction saw their sentences reduced or commuted (by the American administrator, John J McCloy).

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497213415022071808

handing weapons to civilians is a stupid idea. it was dumb when Abiy did it and it is dumb now

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Real Mean Queen posted:

lol for real? Like I’m one south of a whole state called named after a guy with slave teeth for dentures and every other street is named after either a tree or a historical monster, but having places named after paperclip dudes is just alarming.

george wallace and bear bryant were still alive, who else is alabama supposed to name things after

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


etalian posted:

It also must be a big relief for Putin and Russian's military knowing exactly how the other sides would react.

Stop a invasion using sanctions and also some angry Ex vibe PR speeches about how upset the world got.

If anything the US already pioneered this type of unilateral interventions back in the 2000s.

tbh i've been trying to figure out how any of this is part of some NATO plot for a while and the trouble is that NATO both has done nothing and has very little to gain and the best i can think of is that it's basically punishing ukraine for not joining NATO like 10 years ago when when it had the chance, telling the rest of the small states of the world 'you should take our first offer because we might not give you a second'

i think it's more likely that the ukraine and its people are simply Not A Cost to western governments, so if this turns into a Libya Slave Markets situation that's Not Our Problem to the kind of beady eyed psychos who get to run countries and thus not worth lifting a finger about, but at least there's an angle

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
northern kiev apparently. :siren: WARNING: a guy gets shot to death in this video

https://files.catbox.moe/nc4qdt.mp4

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

etalian posted:

It also must be a big relief for Putin and Russian's military knowing exactly how the other sides would react.

Stop a invasion using sanctions and also some angry Ex vibe PR speeches about how upset the world got.

If anything the US already pioneered this type of unilateral interventions back in the 2000s.

People are upset that a country that is not America is doing America poo poo so close to Europe. Although if Russia was going full USA Kiev would be rubble and anyone who survived would be living in an open air prison rn.

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Azathoth posted:

i dunno if it's an official thing but the way that media has taken to reporting on casualties is that they only report what has been "confirmed" for whatever level of confirmation seems appropriate. it is supposed to deal with the problem where media would report "as many as X killed" based on guesses, estimates, missing people, etc. that would then have to be walked back when specific numbers were known. there was a lot of talk about it a while back because a number of conspiracy theories used those initial reports and the subsequent lower numbers to vaguely gesture at something sinister happening. so now we get implausibly low numbers being reported instead and we're supposed to read between the lines that the actual death tolls are going to be much, much worse.
that is helpful ty

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011


quote:

#Nowar
Resolution
of the roundtable of left forces
Moscow, 24 Feb 2022

We, members of the KPRF [Communist Party of the Russian Federation], Left Front, Revolutionary Workers' Party, Russian Socialist Movement, Left Socialist Action, citizens of Russia holding leftist and democratic views, in response to the initiation of military operations on the territory of Ukraine, declare the following:

- we condemn Russian President V. V. Putin's decision on the invasion of Ukraine, insofar as it will lead to the deaths of thousands of people from both sides. The economic condition of the workers of both sides will worsen. The present invasion is solely the gratification of unhealthy foreign policy ambitions of a tight circle of figures at the head of the country, and also a means of distracting attention from the failure of the Russian government's domestic policy;

- we demand that the Russian leadership immediately cease aggression against our brother Ukrainian people;

- we call for all Russian citizens adhering to leftist and democratic views to publish on their pages and social sites the demand for the Russian leadership to cease all military aggression against our brother Ukrainian people, to conduct antiwar agitation among our neighbours, our relatives, our colleagues, and other Russian citizens!

If the current regime is not able to achieve peace, then the path to peace lies in radical change of that regime and of the whole social-political system.

Signatures

this isn't going to mean anything except maybe some arrests, but it's noteworthy that the actual Russian left is pretty unanimous in opposing the invasion

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

PawParole posted:

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497213415022071808

handing weapons to civilians is a stupid idea. it was dumb when Abiy did it and it is dumb now

ah, the nightmare situation is happening, fantastic, great moves Ukraine. If poo poo gets too spicy Ukrainians are gonna be responsible for more civilian deaths than Russians.

ghouldaddy07
Jun 23, 2008

Sherbert Hoover posted:

Hearing reports that the Russians reached Kiev and found it completely empty except for Zelensky playing a zither on top of the city gates.

I hate myself for laughing at this

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Al-Saqr posted:

three thoughts are coming across my mind:-

1) the liberals are never going to shut the gently caress up about lionizing the ukranians despite the fact that the ukranians were invaded and defeated in the span of less than three days, faster than the ANA fell apart.

2) every socialist who fell in line for this are gonna have putin screamed at their faces whenever they ask for free healthcare for the rest of their lives.

3) putin read the room and his gut instincts were correct that the west would hang zelensky out to dry and he can invade and take urkraine with little real cost. the Europeans are buying even more gas and the Russian stock market rebounded.

just an insane past couple days.

Was it a gut feeling or did we literally tell him that we wouldn't do poo poo.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Gresh posted:

i hope the Chechens eat those Nazi fuckers for lunch.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

genericnick posted:

Was it a gut feeling or did we literally tell him that we wouldn't do poo poo.

it was probably the 6 hour meeting with President Jupiter that did it lol

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

northern kiev apparently. :siren: WARNING: a guy gets shot to death in this video

https://files.catbox.moe/nc4qdt.mp4

drat, so its just street fighting right now

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Azathoth posted:

i dunno if it's an official thing but the way that media has taken to reporting on casualties is that they only report what has been "confirmed" for whatever level of confirmation seems appropriate. it is supposed to deal with the problem where media would report "as many as X killed" based on guesses, estimates, missing people, etc. that would then have to be walked back when specific numbers were known. there was a lot of talk about it a while back because a number of conspiracy theories used those initial reports and the subsequent lower numbers to vaguely gesture at something sinister happening. so now we get implausibly low numbers being reported instead and we're supposed to read between the lines that the actual death tolls are going to be much, much worse.

:nsa:

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

northern kiev apparently. :siren: WARNING: a guy gets shot to death in this video

https://files.catbox.moe/nc4qdt.mp4

That's pretty hosed.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


OhFunny posted:

President XI has done it!

an actual nobel peace prize-type sleight of hand? of course xi is not going to get it

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Russians getting ready to assault Kherson:-

https://twitter.com/asbmilitary/status/1497219549778915330?s=21

Russian armor on the Kiev highways

https://twitter.com/asbmilitary/status/1497217327187832840?s=2

sorry for posting this source I know he’s not well liked but he’s the only place I find these videos

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 15:40 on Feb 25, 2022

Xeom
Mar 16, 2007
All the Ukrainian blood being spilled is washing the hands of "the west" clean. Liberals are already going back to old talking point about "the west" spreading democracy. The blood craze is already returning to their eyes. We will invade someone now no questions asked and liberals will just look at you and say the word Russia. "The left" and anti war movement in America is already dead or on life support. With this, what little tattered remnants remained will be dissolved into nothing.

I hate this stupid gay loving world. Americans and liberals the dumbest and most servile group of people. Please just launch the loving nukes already.

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



https://twitter.com/TimesRadio/status/1497153825765011480

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/Fxhedgers/status/1497213233798647819

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Al-Saqr posted:

you’re wrong

it’s called the Willis Tower now.

is the goon whose parents own it still around

pissinthewind
Nov 11, 2021

Xeom posted:

I hate this stupid gay loving world. Americans and liberals the dumbest and most servile group of people. Please just launch the loving nukes already.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

is the goon whose parents own it still around

Wait is that a thing. I refuse to believe that

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

vyelkin posted:



this isn't going to mean anything except maybe some arrests, but it's noteworthy that the actual Russian left is pretty unanimous in opposing the invasion

How is it the actual left?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

30.5 Days posted:

I am making an official cspam prediction Russia will not invade Israel. God willing it will work out like the last one did.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Crowsbeak posted:

How is it the actual left?

I guess its like in the us: if they protest and get arrested they're that county's left

pissinthewind
Nov 11, 2021

pissinthewind
Nov 11, 2021

new cspam background imo

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

i say swears online posted:

yooo the pole dancer from ukraine i follow is live, she's in kiev

https://twitch.tv/olesyabulletka

give her those amazon prime subs lmao

Just watch porn man.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Crowsbeak posted:

How is it the actual left?

isn't the russian communist party is the largest opposition to putin and apparently the only one that has any sort of effect? since, you know, communism was a thing there?

putin propped a lot of soviet imagery and talking points, but it seems that it also contributed to create a lot of young bolsheviks in the last decade

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

vyelkin posted:



this isn't going to mean anything except maybe some arrests, but it's noteworthy that the actual Russian left is pretty unanimous in opposing the invasion

Wasn't the party leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation talking up the protective measures or whatever they were called or am I getting my Duma weirdoes mixed up. I'm terrible with names.

Edit: Zyuganov, I thought.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Just watch porn man.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Chad Sexington posted:

That's pretty hosed.
there seems to be some confusion whether those guys getting killed are russian saboteurs wearing ukrainian uniforms, or ukrainian soldiers getting shot by civilian militia in a case of "friendly fire"

there's also a graphic video going around of a civilian vehicle with a dead driver apparently killed in that manner

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Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

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