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Just Chamber posted:If this drags on is there anything to really stop a NATO country giving the Ukraine military hundreds of drones and having their pilots just sitting in a bunker in like Poland or whatever for the next few weeks sitting in safety sniping Russian tanks, parked helicopters etc from 30000 miles up or what have you? I'm not sure if Ukraine really has many but it seems like that could really bloody Russian noses without putting Ukrainian soldiers at risk. I mean NATO has already pledged weapons but I wonder if say the USA pledged 20 drones to Ukraine that would be too far. I think there is also the question of where do you set up the control posts. Wouldn't Poland letting the Ukrainians sit in their territory conducting acts of war effectively expand the theater to include Poland? It's one thing to host a government-in-exile, but it seems like quiet another to let them launch and control drones from "neutral" territory.
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All Ukraine needs to do is hold out. The longer they can do so the more likely more and more and more sanctions will stop the advance. Or diplomatic options will increase. From what I see as well, it would seem that the Russians are extremely ill prepared for the conflict. Not in terms of men and materials but experience, that's why we're seeing ship to ship missiles hitting Japanese and Romanian freighters.
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Dog Friday posted:Can the US donate a massive fleet of drones to the Ukraine, then have Ukraine outsource the operation of said drones to a private company in Switzerland (lets say) which happens to employ recently former US drone operators? Literally everyone would know its a farce. Theres no benefit in doing this over just straight up having the us drone strike people.
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Dog Friday posted:Can the US donate a massive fleet of drones to the Ukraine, then have Ukraine outsource the operation of said drones to a private company in Switzerland (lets say) which happens to employ recently former US drone operators? No there's no legal loophole that lets you fight a war and not expect to get shot back. Neutral states have an obligation to prevent hostilities from being conducted within their borders, if they don't then that's an act of war.
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I'm not saying the power plant stuff is true, but one of the Kyiv live cams I've been watching went down right around that time.
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szary posted:Are you in Medyka? I want to go help next week as well. I am in Dorohusk/Chelm. I heard from people that Zosin and the other one have more foot traffic and its easier to pick people up. It’s a mess here! You sort of stand in a crowd of people and shout “hey im going to warsaw!!!!”.
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I'm honestly surprised NATO hasn't used the "PMCs" trick Russia uses to be sneaky Just say Ukraine hired a bunch of PMC's that just so happen to be American and French nationals and have equipment, nothing wierd about that 
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A Ukrainian with Titanium Balls trying to have a boxing match with a moving Russian convoy. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t13rw1/a_ukrainian_citizen_attempting_to_block_a_large/
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Footage of direct fire on a hospital ward https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1497266229219897346?t=O7ozbtkQobmIrQSvFRnKDg&s=19
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EvilHawk posted:I'm not saying the power plant stuff is true, but one of the Kyiv live cams I've been watching went down right around that time. Assuming there's a managed electrical grid, a power plant could go off line and only knock out part of the city as the grid rebalances and cuts off what it can't support. Another explanation is that whatever data carrier said cams were hooked up to went down.
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Warmachine posted:I think there is also the question of where do you set up the control posts. Wouldn't Poland letting the Ukrainians sit in their territory conducting acts of war effectively expand the theater to include Poland? It's one thing to host a government-in-exile, but it seems like quiet another to let them launch and control drones from "neutral" territory. I feel like you're severely underestimated the average Pole's loathing of Russia.
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In video games, I have seen MTB LAW units are reloadable. IRL though, it seems these entire things just work once then you cannot reload them, right?
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I was quite surprised to learn that Czech administrator of .cz domain had blocked 8 known disinformational/hoax news servers in Czech language (Kremlin paid as our intelligence agency was saying for years) today and that had never happened before if I remember it correctly. Which could be an issue because freedom of press, etc. so is something like that happening in other countries? And I'm still not sure I like that they did it. I mean I partially do but ...
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Dopilsya posted:I hate to post up in this thread and believe me I know how lovely this is going to sound. I noticed you don't have PMs, but I was wondering if I could ask some questions. Hey! Sorry for brief answers im in the car in a field. Yes, every male is getting turned around at the border Regarding point two, I think the Polish side is heavily policed. I have no idea about the other side! There’s zero chance to sneak in a car, can’t say if he could pay anyone off but I doubt it! I would say from what I’m seeing this is heavily enforced and the border is really hot.
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Klaus88 posted:I feel like you're severely underestimated the average Pole's loathing of Russia. Oh, I severely doubt that. I'm mostly thinking about the 'rules of war' response without respect to how eager Poland would be to do it.
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I've been following this here and just for contrast, on an Irish messageboard which has a... reputation for tolerating racist/bigoted/far right/xenophobic members. They regularly parrot all the usual far right talking points. Anyway, the weird and interesting thing is that even there, the consensus is that Putin is totally in the wrong and Ukraine should be supported. The posters who'd usually be cheerleading him as a strong force against WOKE are almost entirely opposed to this current action. They occasionally mutter about how NATO is somehow at fault, but it is very half-hearted. Seems like Putin has, so far, completely lost the propaganda war outside a very small bubble.
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Inner Light posted:In video games, I have seen MTB LAW units are reloadable. IRL though, it seems these entire things just work once then you cannot reload them, right? My understanding is they are disposable so yeah fire and drop. They also can soft launch, which means you can fire them in an enclosed space. Which means that they are ideal for urban settings like this.
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ronya posted:In the meanwhile: "Czech hedgehogs" are still useful to block or slow down lighter AFV's and other vehicles. It's not like a T-90 can just blindly drive through it either without risk of getting stuck, but since these aren't anchored down in a concrete base like the originals they can be pushed aside. So good enough for a roadblock, just place RPG teams on both sides and some anti-tank mines on the sides of the road. Molotov coctails seem a little... suicidal/ineffective. This isn't 1939, tanks are better protected now. Good way to torch abandoned enemy vehicles and prevent their recapture, though.
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Warmachine posted:Assuming there's a managed electrical grid, a power plant could go off line and only knock out part of the city as the grid rebalances and cuts off what it can't support. The Ukrainian federal government "corrected" the Mayor of Kiev and confirmed that the power plant was damaged, but not destroyed. There was not a blackout and it is still functioning. The Mayor had said it was destroyed by Russia, but it was just bombed and still functional. Any sort of power outage on livestreams is most likely not related to the power plant.
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Mokotow posted:Hey! Sorry for brief answers im in the car in a field. Yes, every male is getting turned around at the border Your a loving hero.
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Pookah posted:I've been following this here and just for contrast, on an Irish messageboard which has a... reputation for tolerating racist/bigoted/far right/xenophobic members. They regularly parrot all the usual far right talking points.
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Nenonen posted:"Czech hedgehogs" are still useful to block or slow down lighter AFV's and other vehicles. It's not like a T-90 can just blindly drive through it either without risk of getting stuck, but since these aren't anchored down in a concrete base like the originals they can be pushed aside. So good enough for a roadblock, just place RPG teams on both sides and some anti-tank mines on the sides of the road. I'm sorry I didn't realize the law of thermodynamics ended in 1939. Tank still gets hot if it's in flames. And your air supply becomes a little dicey with smoke. Seeing as most likely the air filters in the tanks are missing/sold
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Pookah posted:I've been following this here and just for contrast, on an Irish messageboard which has a... reputation for tolerating racist/bigoted/far right/xenophobic members. They regularly parrot all the usual far right talking points. Is there anyone that outright supports this action? Xi was far more upfront that usual this time about their dislike of this course of action.
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Inner Light posted:In video games, I have seen MTB LAW units are reloadable. IRL though, it seems these entire things just work once then you cannot reload them, right? Yes. It's disposable. It's pretty much a more modern, guided, replacement for the AT-4.
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Dog Friday posted:Is there anyone that outright supports this action? Xi was far more upfront that usual this time about their dislike of this course of action. Trump.
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Pookah posted:I've been following this here and just for contrast, on an Irish messageboard which has a... reputation for tolerating racist/bigoted/far right/xenophobic members. They regularly parrot all the usual far right talking points. It's almost physically impossible to not root for the underdog. It's incredible to see peoples brains just convulsing and switching over in some communities. The remaining hardcore will be even more fringe nuts tho.
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One of the early tactical analyses I've read indicated that Russian infantry has been not dismounting to provide screens, leading to high casualty rates from vehicles getting struck. If infantry aren't providing a screen for vehicles then molotovs could result in some sticky burns.
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Dog Friday posted:Is there anyone that outright supports this action? Xi was far more upfront that usual this time about their dislike of this course of action.
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Nenonen posted:
Tanks need to pull in air from somewhere for the crew to breathe and it can't be on the underside (dust and mud from normal operations can block them), which does result in certain places that a sustained fire will make the crew have a bad time. This usually isn't an issue because tanks are supported by ground infantry and you have to be close to use one, but the Russians haven't been disciplined in this so far. Also a sheet of fire obscures optics and thermals pretty well
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Dog Friday posted:Is there anyone that outright supports this action? Xi was far more upfront that usual this time about their dislike of this course of action. Syria and Belarus are BIG fans actually!
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Dog Friday posted:Is there anyone that outright supports this action? Xi was far more upfront that usual this time about their dislike of this course of action. Trump and Trump's sycophants. At least Tommy Tuberville a sitting Senator claimed that Russia needs to do this because they lack farmland.
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Sports and Russia-Ukraine conflict - UEFA moves Champions League Final from St Petersburg to Paris - Formula 1 cancels Russian Grand Prix - Manchester United drops Aeroflot as sponsor - Schalke 04 remove Gazprom's name from their shirts, company executive quits team board
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aba posted:I was quite surprised to learn that Czech administrator of .cz domain had blocked 8 known disinformational/hoax news servers in Czech language (Kremlin paid as our intelligence agency was saying for years) today and that had never happened before if I remember it correctly. Which could be an issue because freedom of press, etc. so is something like that happening in other countries? And I'm still not sure I like that they did it. I mean I partially do but ... Polish Radio/TV Board blocked Russia Today from transmitting on free channels in the country (first good thing it did since takeover by PiS), various private companies also blocked some of Russian channels.
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https://twitter.com/NadiaWhittomeMP/status/1497235831391719427 From what I understand, Ireland, on the other hand, has waived visa restrictions for Ukrainian refugees, so...yeah, Ireland is better than England, sorry, I don't make the rules.
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Statement on CNN from former Ukranian President Poroshenko in Kyiv. You can tell he's emotional https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1497189957395488778?t=nSm9oXSJDnpkmK54y4M30w&s=19 It seems it's now become an existential battle as well for a lot of Ukranians. Not a great sign for an easy occupation
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My understanding going into things, ignorant as I am about Eastern European politics, was that neither side is a particularly Stirling example of progressive politics but that doesn't much matter when the aggressor is clearly conducting a war for fun and profit without a casus belli.Threadkiller Dog posted:It's almost physically impossible to not root for the underdog. It's incredible to see peoples brains just convulsing and switching over in some communities. The remaining hardcore will be even more fringe nuts tho. Thanks for reminding me to check the freep thread and see how they're handling it.
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