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Dog Friday posted:Is there anyone that outright supports this action? Xi was far more upfront that usual this time about their dislike of this course of action. Myanmar and basically everybody who doesn't like free elections.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Trump. I have it on good authority that Trump is mentally retarded though. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nenonen posted:Molotov coctails seem a little... suicidal/ineffective. This isn't 1939, tanks are better protected now. Good way to torch abandoned enemy vehicles and prevent their recapture, though. this assumes tank fighting in an urban environment goes entirely by the book, the book that gets thrown out as soon as soon as actual fighting begins
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ranbo das posted:Tanks need to pull in air from somewhere for the crew to breathe and it can't be on the underside (dust and mud from normal operations can block them), which does result in certain places that a sustained fire will make the crew have a bad time. Also the optics have coatings that fire will absolutely mess up. And tank hatches are sealed with rubber. That stuff melts/burns and burning fuel will drip through the tiniest of openings.
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KitConstantine posted:Statement on CNN from former Ukranian President Poroshenko in Kyiv. You can tell he's emotional I don't think he has a current government job, but he has a net worth of $1.5 billion (he owns chocolate manufacturing). I figured he'd fled by now. Seeing him still in Ukraine is impressive. If he's serious about taking up a weapon, that's pretty crazy. I wonder if a billionaire has ever killed an enemy combatant in a war before.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I'm sorry I didn't realize the law of thermodynamics ended in 1939. Tank still gets hot if it's in flames. And your air supply becomes a little dicey with smoke. it's useful if you can get the flaming stuff on to the tank. getting the flaming stuff on to the tank has gotten a lot harder since 1939.
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KitConstantine posted:Statement on CNN from former Ukranian President Poroshenko in Kyiv. You can tell he's emotional This is a crazy clip, thanks for sharing. He is referring to Kyiv territorial defense, it must be one of his assistants that is directly posting on their Twitter, the image of the NLAWs Props to CNN for making that conversation happen also, otherwise CNN is trash, as usual they are shining in wartime.
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Peanut Butler posted:this assumes tank fighting in an urban environment goes entirely by the book, the book that gets thrown out as soon as soon as actual fighting begins Tanks never do well in urban areas.
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The_Franz posted:Apparently some gopniks in Kyiv stole a Russian BTR, beat up the crew and went on a little joyride before handing it over to the local forces This is an absolute pro-click if you can read Russian.
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TulliusCicero posted:I'm honestly surprised NATO hasn't used the "PMCs" trick Russia uses to be sneaky I dont for a second believe you're surprised by this.
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Inner Light posted:In video games, I have seen MTB LAW units are reloadable. IRL though, it seems these entire things just work once then you cannot reload them, right? It is a one-shot weapon. The launcher is disposable. Tank stuff: Those tank traps won't stop a modern main battle tank. If partially-buried, they may be able to stop a BTR or other wheeled vehicle, which typically have less torque to push through obstacles. Molotovs won't disable armored vehicles but can still be useful: they'll destroy gear--including ammunition--stored on the outside, can blind optics, and prevent the passengers (including infantry passengers) and crew from exiting. It's also a focused illumination source at night: i.e. it will let people with rocket launchers but without low-light/thermal optics see the target from cover.
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RE: unlikely people turning against Russia/Putin the absolute... Obvious "War of Aggression" character of this whole thing has made strange bedfellows of all this. I saw posts circulating of Anarchists protesting the Russian Consulate General in north Seattle a few days ago, I'm curious who else showed up. This is the type of poo poo that pisses off everyone, Putin's giving NATO free propagandic real estate and doing work that the US or its allies could never do alone. I'm sure the Biden camp is pleased.
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William Bear posted:I don't think he has a current government job, but he has a net worth of $1.5 billion (he owns chocolate manufacturing). I figured he'd fled by now. Seeing him still in Ukraine is impressive. Imagine GW Bush or any other ex POTUS grabbing an AR15 and defending the country.
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William Bear posted:I don't think he has a current government job, but he has a net worth of $1.5 billion (he owns chocolate manufacturing). I figured he'd fled by now. Seeing him still in Ukraine is impressive. There were other posts going around about a Ukrainian millionaire who's staying and fighting but I forgot his name.
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TheRat posted:I dont for a second believe you're surprised by this. Sounds like a quick way to draw USA into this. No thanks Jose.
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Haven't seen this posted here yet, but it looks like NATO is gearing up. https://twitter.com/axios/status/1497280435612758017
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
How is that weapon useful for anything other than terrorizing a large area of civilians?
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I'm sorry I didn't realize the law of thermodynamics ended in 1939. Tank still gets hot if it's in flames. And your air supply becomes a little dicey with smoke. Tanks--even Russian tanks--are big, and have a lot of metal. A few kilograms of alcohol lit on fire won't generate enough heat to make a meaningful difference on the inside. Russian vehicles are designed for NBC environments; their filters will generally handle smoke just fine. What can happen with a little luck is if you can get some enflamed material into the filter. The filters themselves can catch on fire, and that smoke can be very toxic depending on what the filter is made of. US tanks used to have filters with Chromium-6 in them (the same poo poo in the movie Eric Brokovich), though those were replaced over 20 years ago. I don't know what filters Russian vehicles use, though I doubt they were "sold". Who would one sell them too? It's not like a BTR-80's NBC filter fits into your home heating system.
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KillHour posted:Imagine GW Bush or any other ex POTUS grabbing an AR15 and defending the country.
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MadJackal posted:How is that weapon useful for anything other than terrorizing a large area of civilians? Theoretically it is meant to counter a massed infantry attack through the Fulda Gap. But: yeah basically.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:I'm sorry I didn't realize the law of thermodynamics ended in 1939. Tank still gets hot if it's in flames. And your air supply becomes a little dicey with smoke. This is just fantasy. A bottle of gasoline isn't going to heat up a massive slab of steel significantly, and you have no basis to say that active warzone tanks have no air filters because some russian sold them all.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Haven't seen this posted here yet, but it looks like NATO is gearing up. *goes off to read article*
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KillHour posted:Imagine GW Bush or any other ex POTUS grabbing an AR15 and defending the country. I can 10000% see Teddy Roosevelt throwing Molotov cocktails at Russian tanks from an apartment window. Also: I can't imagine how much more stressful this would be if Trump was president and tweeting the whole thing. I'd probably die.
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Lampsacus posted:GW Bush pops his head out the hatch of a tank. "Now watch this drive." Dukakis is still alive...
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MadJackal posted:How is that weapon useful for anything other than terrorizing a large area of civilians? It would absolutely gently caress up any readying deployment or advancing troop front if you got one in range. You saw those photos of 150 helicopters on the road? Imagine one MLRS Salvo going off on them.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Haven't seen this posted here yet, but it looks like NATO is gearing up. NATO sure seems to be doing a lot of troop movements right now onto the border. Is this just a show of force to Putin? Just a tripwire if he decides to get antsy and go after Poland or something?
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Inner Light posted:Is that really MRLS though? Why are the explosions so tiny, like tinier than 1 frag grenade each? The US MLRS rocket launchers primarily fire rockets that contain several hundred small submunitions, I presume the same is true of the Russian systems.
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Inner Light posted:Is that really MRLS though? Why are the explosions so tiny, like tinier than 1 frag grenade each? I've been wondering this too, it looks more to me like what I would expect mortar fire to be. I have no combat experience at all (that god), but don't MLRSs shoot massive tree-trunk sized rockets? Edit: OK yeah cluster munitions makes more sense.
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External Organs posted:I can 10000% see Teddy Roosevelt throwing Molotov cocktails at Russian tanks from an apartment window.
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MadJackal posted:How is that weapon useful for anything other than terrorizing a large area of civilians? It's useful for targeting large areas with soft targets: headquarters units; communications vehicles; supply trucks; infantry in the open. That sort of thing. They can destroy many lightly-armored vehicles such as older APCs, but are unlikely to take out main battle tanks. Even then, they can damage optics, break tracks, knock off an antenna, and otherwise degrade heavy armor.
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Inner Light posted:In video games, I have seen MTB LAW units are reloadable. IRL though, it seems these entire things just work once then you cannot reload them, right? A lot of people are saying their disposable like a AT4. They're semi-disposable: the Javelin consist of a preloaded launch tube and a Command Launch Unit (CLU), a set of sights and launcher controls. When fired, the tube is disposed of but CLU comes off and a new launch tube is attached. 
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Pookah posted:I've been following this here and just for contrast, on an Irish messageboard which has a... reputation for tolerating racist/bigoted/far right/xenophobic members. They regularly parrot all the usual far right talking points. A few hundred years of oppression moulds the mind into recognizing it elsewhere. Ireland can be as bigoted and hosed up as everyone else, but still can see through the bullshit of evil.
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Inner Light posted:Is that really MRLS though? Why are the explosions so tiny, like tinier than 1 frag grenade each? Cluster submunitions.
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External Organs posted:I can 10000% see Teddy Roosevelt throwing Molotov cocktails at Russian tanks from an apartment window. The Ghost of Kiev is actually the ghost of Andrew Jackson
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Shooting Blanks posted:Haven't seen this posted here yet, but it looks like NATO is gearing up. Given how far inside the Russian offensive plans the US has been, this is ominous to say the least.
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TulliusCicero posted:NATO sure seems to be doing a lot of troop movements right now onto the border. Specifically commanded by this dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tod_D._Wolters Interesting development, we'll see if it's a nothing burger.
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William Bear posted:I don't think he has a current government job, but he has a net worth of $1.5 billion (he owns chocolate manufacturing). I figured he'd fled by now. Seeing him still in Ukraine is impressive. In the full interview he shows off the rifle he is carrying
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Inner Light posted:Is that really MRLS though? Why are the explosions so tiny, like tinier than 1 frag grenade each? Cluster bomblets. Just spray an area with 5 launchers x 12 cargo missiles x 100 each bomblet in a missile and they have their use
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