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Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:




Neat, nice for that post-porn-session wash, I guess.

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Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Shower aside I... kind of like this? Its ugly but converting kitchen cabinets into desk storage is kinda handy. Plus the "desk" is easy to clean.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


Kitchen cum computer room and here I for once do not use it as a Latin loan word.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Looks like a pet grooming or vet's office.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Looks like a pet grooming or vet's office.

Yeah, that was my guess.

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

because of the monitors?

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
It's a dog washing station, people do these near a garage entrance or laundry room. Really helpful when you have large dogs running around in the mud outside.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Platystemon posted:



Red paint makes it go faster.

So, to add a little context to this for people outside of Fire/Life Safety and commercial or industrial applications, there is a common belief that NFPA 72 indicates that all junction boxes for fire detection/suppression equipment be painted red. This is not exactly true, only the means of disconnect is required to be red per NFPA 72, but the industry standard is that associated equipment be painted red, and most of the time this is specified in building requirements given to the contractors from the customer. This is a junction box, presumably related to the fire suppression equipment in the background, probably a flow switch or NAC or various other items. Note the fire suppression water piping in the background.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

wolrah posted:

Of course, I was just curious how one would correctly connect that many wires to a single feed once inside said enclosure, if that indeed is the goal of this mess. I know wire nuts aren't for more than two and I haven't seen the Wago things beyond I think five spots.

The correct way is to never get into this position in the first place. It's a huge waste of wire and effort. Make connections sequentially from box to box.

If I unearthed that monstrosity I would likely start pulling drywall so I could run things properly. Your immediate next assumption should be that every box is wrong in that house. Anyone capable of installing that and it working has enough knowledge to be really dangerous with no common sense.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


GreenNight posted:

Hammer time?

No, collaborate and listen.


StormDrain posted:

The correct way is to never get into this position in the first place. It's a huge waste of wire and effort. Make connections sequentially from box to box.

If I unearthed that monstrosity I would likely start pulling drywall so I could run things properly. Your immediate next assumption should be that every box is wrong in that house. Anyone capable of installing that and it working has enough knowledge to be really dangerous with no common sense.

This, so much.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Meow Meow Meow posted:

You could go full industrial and use terminal blocks in an enclosure. You can get jumper bars of pretty much any size to connect as many blocks/wires together as you want.


I figured there would be an industrial solution, as the bus bars used also could be if installed properly, but wasn't really sure how kosher industrial solutions might be for home use.

Those look neat though, like 66 blocks but for electricity (and I'd assume they're connected along the long axis for electrical use as opposed to across the short axis like a telecom block would be.

SyNack Sassimov posted:

Would be nice to have an actual electrician sort chime in on this since it's an interesting question - if you did in fact do electrical like network wiring and homerun everything, how would you properly connect 10 runs that all want to be on the same circuit? (The stupidity of having ten homeruns to a panel from outlets probably in the same location in the house and only feet from each other aside)
You're reading my mind, I'm a network guy and thinking about it like that where home runs give more flexibility to change things after the fact. Particularly since I currently live in a townhome where the living room ceiling lights are wired to their switches in groupings that don't really make sense, so I'm to some extent just dreaming about something which would make that trivial to fix in an afternoon for no money. Similarly it would be nice to be able to change which outlet was switched in bedrooms.

I realize that this makes almost no sense outside of this specific scenario and if you were in a position to decide to install this way you are also in a position to just group them how you want them. I enjoy thinking about overengineered solutions for problems that aren't worth the effort sometimes, it's a way to learn about less common things.

wolrah fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Feb 24, 2022

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

wolrah posted:

Particularly since I currently live in a townhome where the living room ceiling lights are wired to their switches in groupings that don't really make sense, so I'm to some extent just dreaming about something which would make that trivial to fix in an afternoon for no money. Similarly it would be nice to be able to change which outlet was switched in bedrooms.

I realize that this makes almost no sense outside of this specific scenario and if you were in a position to decide to install this way you are also in a position to just group them how you want them. I enjoy thinking about overengineered solutions for problems that aren't worth the effort sometimes, it's a way to learn about less common things.

Relevant TOH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI96Qj7hBFA

You can’t disassociate lights from either other without rewiring (duh), but you can make a supergroup of them and move where they are controlled from.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





wolrah posted:

I figured there would be an industrial solution, as the bus bars used also could be if installed properly, but wasn't really sure how kosher industrial solutions might be for home use.


This particular type of terminal blocks probably would have some drawbacks to use in a home. Typical application of terminal blocks is for automation, relays, and other control wiring. In general the load you want to operate is only controlled by the terminal block connections, for example you may have a pump that turns on when a float switch is activated and the terminal blocks control the relay and switching, the pump itself is powered from its own disconnect or breaker. In the residential use case you have no controlling or automation software commonly available that works the same. Smart Home stuff tends to work with the device itself/the outlet/the light/the switch and thus doesn't need something like this. If you ended up installing something like this just for fun it would probably work just as well as a conventional wiring, but the bus bar would still need to be fed back to a breaker and the main panel so you would not gain a whole lot. Theoretically, if you planned it out you could have it so that you can change which switch toggles which feature/load, but the use case for that is pretty slim.

What would worry me most about this situation is that changing wires, removing wires, and installing wires in those terminal blocks is significantly easier than loving around with the breaker box itself, so the adventurous home-owner is not going to have that feeling of trepidation that might save them from making a mistake, and they could do something dangerous. That being said, I guess the same worry exists if a home owner rewires an outlet or a switch badly enough.

As to your ceiling light issue you might be able to get smart bulbs and then arrange them into groups you find more reasonable and use you smart home device to turn them on or off. Voice controlled lights are something I have come to really enjoy, but my groupings are fine so I use a smart switch for the ceiling lights, and then smart bulbs for the bedstand tables.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Learn this one weird trick inspectors HATE!

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Platystemon posted:

Learn this one weird trick inspectors HATE!



dude a new outlet is a dollar 59, beter than burning your house down.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

tater_salad posted:

dude a new outlet is a dollar 59, beter than burning your house down.

Relax. It’s a fourteen‐gauge paperclip.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

tater_salad posted:

dude a new outlet is a dollar 59, beter than burning your house down.

Driving to the store is such a hassle tho

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


I watched a guy return like 3 faceplates.. for the energy it'd take to do that id have tossed them into the recycle bin.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

tater_salad posted:

I watched a guy return like 3 faceplates.. for the energy it'd take to do that id have tossed them into the recycle bin.

Or stick it with all the lose screws and poo poo homeowners accumulate, in case one gets broken or otherwise hosed up. Though I've returned some weird poo poo when I needed to go back to the store anyway. It's getting there that's the pain in the rear end, not walking up to the counter.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Blue Footed Booby posted:

Or stick it with all the lose screws and poo poo homeowners accumulate, in case one gets broken or otherwise hosed up. Though I've returned some weird poo poo when I needed to go back to the store anyway. It's getting there that's the pain in the rear end, not walking up to the counter.

they were the wrong color.. fine and yeah I'd save 'em for the next time i'm heading to lowes, guy walked in, got his 3 dollars back, and returned stuff back and walk out.

tater_salad fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 25, 2022

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

tater_salad posted:

they were the wrong color.. fine and yeah I'd save 'em for the next time i'm heading to lowes, guy walked in, got his 3 dollars back, and returned stuff back and walk out.

Our teenaged son was building his IKEA dresser and he broke a piece of it. So when my wife and I were heading out for errands in that neck of the woods, we took the part with us to go to customer service and get a replacement.

We ended up getting there a half hour before the store opened, and there was one woman in front of us in line.

She returned the following:

FRIDFULL is a flower pot that costs $7.

After she got her refund, she turned around and left.

Chin Strap
Nov 24, 2002

I failed my TFLC Toxx, but I no longer need a double chin strap :buddy:
Pillbug

Blue Moonlight posted:

Our teenaged son was building his IKEA dresser and he broke a piece of it. So when my wife and I were heading out for errands in that neck of the woods, we took the part with us to go to customer service and get a replacement.

We ended up getting there a half hour before the store opened, and there was one woman in front of us in line.

She returned the following:

FRIDFULL is a flower pot that costs $7.

After she got her refund, she turned around and left.

My mom once spent 30 minutes on the phone with Pizza Hut customer service to get her 2 dollars back she thought she was overcharged from a promotion.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica
I got an 8-pack of frozen burritos but it only contained 7.

How can I turn this to my financial advantage?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

I got an 8-pack of frozen burritos but it only contained 7.

How can I turn this to my financial advantage?

Your pipes will thank you for cramming one less frozen burrito down the toilet, so I guess you're already saving on a plumber.

Dial M for MURDER
Sep 22, 2008

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

I got an 8-pack of frozen burritos but it only contained 7.

How can I turn this to my financial advantage?

I had this happen with a grocery brand pot sticker type thing ( Safeway pots of gold) years ago.

I called the number on the box and they sent me a couple coupons that made them free.

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

I got an 8-pack of frozen burritos but it only contained 7.

How can I turn this to my financial advantage?

Given what I’ve seen on the internet lately I think the new social norm is to return to the grocery store and scream at the checkout person.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Don't forget to wear your mask below your nose. If you bother at all with one.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


PainterofCrap posted:

Don't forget to wear your mask below your nose. If you bother at all with one.

Well of course I wear a mask, how else are you gonna hold your chin up without a chinstrap? :confused:

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




When I worked at Walgreens, some old guy came in with his receipt to get a credit of ten cents that we overcharged him somehow. He specifically came in just for that.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Old retired people got nothing but time. My 90+ year old grandpa would call a grocery store to confirm the stuff on sale was actually on sale before sending me.

'Tater, coke is already on sale I called and the manager checked and said they have it and it's actually on sale just like the ad says'

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp

Platystemon posted:

Learn this one weird trick inspectors HATE!



Too bad you can't make an image the thread title

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

I got an 8-pack of frozen burritos but it only contained 7.

How can I turn this to my financial advantage?

There was a significant period in the 90s where my parents were writing complaint letters about practically all the food we bought. Sometimes it was legitimately bad food or actually defective, but usually we were just seeing who'd send us coupons to gently caress off.

The winners of that particular contest, besides us, was Stagg chili, who sent us a sampler pack of like, over a dozen cans of chili in a box that was one can wide.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I've found by writing to companies telling them how I genuinely like their product I also got lots of free poo poo.

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

I bought a 10 pack of battered fish filets but I got 11 filets in it. Today while cooking a batch of them, I dropped one on the floor. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

sleepy gary posted:

I bought a 10 pack of battered fish filets but I got 11 filets in it. Today while cooking a batch of them, I dropped one on the floor. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

It all worked out in the end! :pseudo:

Baronjutter posted:

I've found by writing to companies telling them how I genuinely like their product I also got lots of free poo poo.

I'm 90% convinced nobody even reads that poo poo and that it's all automated. Get letter from return address XYZ, poo poo coupons to same.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

D34THROW posted:


I'm 90% convinced nobody even reads that poo poo and that it's all automated. Get letter from return address XYZ, poo poo coupons to same.


Good use of that "happy for you, or sad, whatever" meme.

"Thanks for your letter telling us our stuff sucks, or is good maybe. Here are some free coupons".

Wolfsbane
Jul 29, 2009

What time is it, Eccles?

D34THROW posted:

I'm 90% convinced nobody even reads that poo poo and that it's all automated. Get letter from return address XYZ, poo poo coupons to same.

My brother used to do that job and you're pretty much correct. Policy was to automatically send out coupons the first time someone complained, and only bother looking into it if the address was already on record.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Where we’re going, we don’t need paperclips!

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
There's nothing dangerous about that setup. Wrap it in electrical tape and put it right back

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Was in the Ukraine war thread and made it to "POW" until I realized it wasn't a Motronic post in this thread.

nesamdoom posted:

Expanding foam seal/insulation. Comes in spray cans and is a bitch to clean. bonus points for looking up the intake ports and covering them to let the people inside have to choose to suffocate or open the hatch. Then one gets POWs and the poo poo will still work after a bit of degunking. but it does work as a chill way to disable the vehicle and force the operators out without damaging the vehicle or them, unless they really wanna come out shooting which would be stupid since a metal epoxy splash would be an easier way to trap them followed by incindiary. but really, literally cooking people alive is really hosed up.

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