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mmkay posted:Yea, I have the download link in history and it's still up (also got the file). It's some accounts and passwords from Russia's MOD (some passwords feel like they were made up by a 12 year old - 'asasin2014') . I wish Anonymous went after FSB Would be interesting to see the extent of troll farms and what accounts are active members of it TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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piL posted:From here. thank you, that's good information. sounds kinda like the NATO Member Action Plan (tm) takes too loving long, imho Viktor Yanukovych was a Russian stooge installed by Russia (and currently living in Russia) in order to stop Ukraine from joining NATO, so seems to me like NATO got outsmarted on that one pretty clearly. essentially every attempt to join NATO has been effectively stymied by Putin for years and years now
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Nenonen posted:Point was that Jens Stoltenberg talking about a cyber attack possibly invoking art.5 doesn't have to mean massing tanks around Kaliningrad, it just means that the allies will work together to respond. Probably it would mean increasing their cyber warfare capabilities but other options aren't explicitly barred. And that seems wise, warfare has changed a lot from the 1950's. Also a point he made was that NATO never defined the level cyber attacks need to meet before art.5 is invoked to not encourage them at a rate just below it.
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Play posted:NATO should've brought in Ukraine a while back, before troops were ever massing at the border. Easier to say in retrospect but was the only thing preventing that not wanting to make Russia mad? Or were there other reasons? NATO was never going to accept Ukraine.
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But doesn't this article imply that Stoltenburg might as well have said "If and/or when Putin cyber-attacks us ww3 is starting"? The 'Article 5' clause struck me https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1497309173498875907?s=20&t=YS6TkflgDk8fleHFx0mtuQ Am I going crazy?
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Grouchio posted:What's different about this declaration against cyber-attacks from Russia from the ones Russia has done in the past when Ukraine wasn't getting invaded? Isn't this going to lead to war when Putin goes through with cyberattacks anyway?? Grouchio posted:But doesn't this article imply that Stoltenburg might as well have said "If and/or when Putin cyber-attacks us ww3 is starting"? The 'Article 5' clause struck me
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As a Russian with property in moscow I am loving livid this is happening.
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Grouchio posted:But doesn't this article imply that Stoltenburg might as well have said "If and/or when Putin cyber-attacks us ww3 is starting"? The 'Article 5' clause struck me If Russia does cyberattacks against allies which cause damage equal to conventional kinetic attacks they will be treated as attacks. Not really surprising or news.
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Grouchio posted:But doesn't this article imply that Stoltenburg might as well have said "If and/or when Putin cyber-attacks us ww3 is starting"? The 'Article 5' clause struck me No, its just a warning shot across Russias bow after their, frankly, aggressive tones towards Finland and Sweden to name a few.
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Recorded yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezhZY0FZDOg Ed Nash & Prof. Alaric Searle discussing the Russian Invasion of Ukraine, 34min run time. It's probably a bit out of date regarding todays events but it gives some background on Putin and his ideas/methodology.
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Just received this, thanks wizzair! Also I realized the apartment I'm renting is owned by some Russian guy who I've never seen. I considered stopping paying for it but he'd probably rent it out for more after I get kicked out so I'm not sure about it. And maybe if all Russian assets are seized eventually... Play posted:thank you, that's good information.
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Zelensky eeking out of this with Minsk two would be the most Pyrrhic victory in Russian history
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Preoptopus posted:As a Russian with property in moscow I am loving livid this is happening. do you live there full time / are you there now? Some actual anecdotes about what's going on in your sliver of things would be great, since all we are getting is stuff on twitter that's clearly being pushed one way or another.
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Grouchio posted:But doesn't this article imply that Stoltenburg might as well have said "If and/or when Putin cyber-attacks us ww3 is starting"? The 'Article 5' clause struck me NATO and Russia have been cybering each other every hour of every day for ages. Stoltenberg is just banging his chest a bit.
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I really hope that whatever happens in terms of peace and ceasefire, sanctions are held in place for a long-rear end time. Eat your poo poo, Putin.
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TheRat posted:NATO and Russia have been cybering each other every hour of every day for ages. Stoltenberg is just banging his chest a bit. there has definitely been a significant uptick on targeted attacks on major US companies in the past few days I have two friends in infosec for fintech / f500s that have been sending me totally insane poo poo late at night they both think the Biden admin is massively downplaying this, fwiw. In one case this is a household name that's had to airgap critical systems and lost days of effective work already.
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piL posted:I have a loose understanding of this, but that loose understanding entails that Ukraine's leadership vassalated back and forth unable to commit to the NATO process. Diplomatic military and economic pressure from their neighbor to the east probably made commitments to getting that started rather difficult for any leader with polonium sensitivity. Post-2014 they beelined that, but 2014 happened because Putin bossed Yanukovych to blow up a popular deal with EU. The relationship between the two was that of subservience - just not as overt one as in, e.g., Belarus.
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TheRat posted:NATO and Russia have been cybering each other every hour of every day for ages. Stoltenberg is just banging his chest a bit. NATO cybers with Russians too?!?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:NATO cybers with Russians too?!? if you think you're doing the sexy kind of cyber with a Russian, 10:1 it's actually a romanian, hth
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Cabbages and Kings posted:there has definitely been a significant uptick on targeted attacks on major US companies in the past few days Well define what these cyberattacks are. There's a difference between someone ddosing your frontend and someone actually having access to your databases and wiping it or some ransomware thing.
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CommieGIR posted:Again, for the new page: They frequently move these launchers, that was the design. They move them to ensure they cannot be spotted. Normal thing for these launchers. I didn't mean to sound like I was disagreeing with this. The materiel movements before the invasion was very much done in the public eye in order to make sure the world knew. I'm sure they could move these launchers in more surreptitious ways if the wanted to, but I think they wanted it to be seen, even if the final destination is kept secret.
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Play posted:I want someone to ask Putin what the hell is going on with his freaky inflated head. I swear he didn't look like that just a year ago. I'm a putin head truther, it must be connected somehow The Ukrainian nurse I met a few days ago had quite a lot to say about him being pumped full of botox.
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There Bias Two posted:Wait, consent to what amounted to unconditional surrender? Is there some other proposal on the table at this time? Consent to have a dialogue.
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FishBulbia posted:Zelensky eeking out of this with Minsk two would be the most Pyrrhic victory in Russian history Yeah, and it ain't happening. I'm betting the best case outcome here is a soft version of the Balkanization plan; Russia gets to do whatever the gently caress it wants in Donbas and gets a "demilitarized zone" next to it with Russian security forces who will gradually turn up the pressure on any anti-Russian sentiment until they eventually hold a referendum and 101% of East Ukraine votes to secede. Even with sanctions, I don't think Russia has a lot of incentive to back down very far.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:if you think you're doing the sexy kind of cyber with a Russian, 10:1 it's actually a romanian, hth I see this is what they’re bringing to the alliance
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Charlotte Hornets posted:Well define what these cyberattacks are. There's a difference between someone ddosing your frontend and someone actually having access to your databases and wiping it or some ransomware thing. Sure, without giving too much info, in one case an f500's SSO provider (which is, again, a household name) was compromised and they literally had hackers showing up in zoom calls and slack channels with developer-or-better privileges that is not normal lol. also one has to assume that whatever was stolen or seriously hosed happened before they started trolling corp socmedia.
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BigglesSWE posted:I really hope that whatever happens in terms of peace and ceasefire, sanctions are held in place for a long-rear end time. Eat your poo poo, Putin. At this point, Putin's terms for a ceasefire will be identical to his terms before the invasion. Zelensky will tell him to gently caress off and that will be the end of it. This is all about Ukraine being seen as reasonable and cooperative, and keeping international opinion on their side.
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Charlotte Hornets posted:Well define what these cyberattacks are. There's a difference between someone ddosing your frontend and someone actually having access to your databases and wiping it or some ransomware thing. Or more interestingly getting access to the grid monitoring systems and flipping the power off for north eastern North America like it's the summer of 2003.
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This is still building, no Iskanders used yet have they?
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Warmachine posted:Or more interestingly getting access to the grid monitoring systems and flipping the power off for north eastern North America like it's the summer of 2003. If something like this happened and could be definitively linked to a state power I believe that would be treated as an act of war. Iran certainly felt that way about stuxnet.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:There's a spectrum of cyber-attacks, just like there are physical. If Russia started doing poo poo that'd normally be achieved through bombings, like disabling critical infrastructure, then that's really no less of an attack than doing it with physical saboteurs. Think of the ransomware attack last year that shut down the one gas pipeline. It was some hackers going after businesses that hit something a little too critical, but even there they only hit billing systems rather than anything connected to the security of the pipeline itself. Shipments only stopped because the bean counters wouldn't have been able to bill them accurately. The US would have played it differently if it was damage to the hard infrastructure.
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Ola posted:I didn't mean to sound like I was disagreeing with this. The materiel movements before the invasion was very much done in the public eye in order to make sure the world knew. I'm sure they could move these launchers in more surreptitious ways if the wanted to, but I think they wanted it to be seen, even if the final destination is kept secret. Oh no, I wasn't calling you out: The thread moves fast just wanted people aware.
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Looks like south front is still the week spot. Flat open terrain with highways. Perfect for Soviet mil doctrine https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1497259604119543814
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On cyberwarfare: tech pros are congregating (again) to form a cyberattack group with Ukraine's support. People from inside and outside Ukraine, separate from Anonymous. Sorry, don't remember how to operate tags so have the entire link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-25/hackivists-plot-attacks-on-russia-with-ukraine-s-urging
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FishBulbia posted:Looks like south front is still the week spot. This was posted like 4 hours ago dude
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Deteriorata posted:At this point, Putin's terms for a ceasefire will be identical to his terms before the invasion. Zelensky will tell him to gently caress off and that will be the end of it. Zelensky only turned down those terms before because he was convinced NATO would actually do something. Less than 24 hours in he was saying "NATO's bullshit and we're on our own, let's talk about that neutral status." He might be willing to drag out the fight to avoid unconditional surrender and widespread purges of Russia's critics, but he's not getting himself and his country killed over an alliance that he now knows will never defend Ukraine.
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Grouchio posted:But doesn't this article imply that Stoltenburg might as well have said "If and/or when Putin cyber-attacks us ww3 is starting"? The 'Article 5' clause struck me I'm about to invoke NATO Article 6hr if you will keep mentioning WW3 in every post.
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FishBulbia posted:Looks like south front is still the week spot. Oh shut up fetishizing that Soviet military doctrine crap. That's not even where Russia is anymore, they've moved on and IRIC their current military practice is essentially based around fire support. Also, it's easy to advance quickly when your enemy has withdrawn.
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