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Monopoly is fun but the problem is that far past the point where it's obvious who is going to win, it just keeps going. And going. Until it shreds you into dust. There's no miraculous comeback or shrewd move that's gonna dig you out of the grinding gears of capitalism. Axis & Allies, which I like, also suffers from this but you can set the winning conditions to circumvent that. Oh poo poo. This is not the board game thread.
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That's also literally the whole point of Monopoly. And all of the dumb house rules just keep the agony going that much longer by allowing players to keep limping along past where they should be able to.
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Feb 25, 2022 22:11
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i have a lot of bigger complaints about pokemon legends arceus, but also two small things that probably annoy me more than any of the other things: - you can't sprint out of crouch, you have to manually uncrouch first - the camera when using ride pokemon just absolutely sucks poo poo lmao
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Feb 25, 2022 22:29
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If you like the idea of Monopoly -- I mean real Monopoly, not house rules bullshit -- ffs play a better game that has similar mechanics &/or themes but includes fun modern concepts like "no player elimination", "give the lagging players a boost to avoid runaways", and "time-bounded" so you're not playing out a foregone conclusion for 20 minutes. Something like Power Grid hits those marks solidly. Only catch is it's more complicated than Monopoly by a little bit so it won't work for younger kids but it's good for 12+
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Feb 25, 2022 22:55
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If you think monopoly is a cool and fun game, then you haven't ever played a good board game. Monopoly commits several sins, several of which would disqualify it from appearing on 99% of board gamer's tables. Yes, even if you play with the proper rules.
edit: beaten on Power Grid specifically, lol
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Feb 25, 2022 22:57
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credburn posted:What! gently caress you, game. Just something like "please be sure to shut the game down properly in order to ensure correct saving", it's not a Mr. Resetti scolding or anything. More poo poo you gotta click through after starting up the game before you can actually play it, though.
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Feb 25, 2022 23:02
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Literally the point of monopoly is how awful and crushing capitalism is, it's not supposed to be fun
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Feb 25, 2022 23:05
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Opopanax posted:Literally the point of monopoly is how awful and crushing capitalism is, it's not supposed to be fun Not really, that's the point of it's predecessor but monopoly is just about making stacks and loving over your family and friends
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Feb 25, 2022 23:08
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There are good mass market games but Monopoly isn't close to one of them.Admiralty Flag posted:If you like the idea of Monopoly -- I mean real Monopoly, not house rules bullshit -- ffs play a better game that has similar mechanics &/or themes but includes fun modern concepts like "no player elimination", "give the lagging players a boost to avoid runaways", and "time-bounded" so you're not playing out a foregone conclusion for 20 minutes. Something like Power Grid hits those marks solidly. The trading aspect of Monopoly is the only interesting bit so something like Bohnanza works well as a replacement because it's all about trading and is fast and cheap. And has silly pictures of beans. Or High Society if you want a game all about auctions. Doctor Spaceman has a new favorite as of 00:53 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Feb 25, 2022 23:18
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If you get your monopoly set, get the bits out of the box, fidget with the dog and the racecar, set up the bank and then let someone say "Wouldnt it be great if all this money was real" then you've had all the enjoyment out of it you are going to get.
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Feb 25, 2022 23:31
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SiKboy posted:If you get your monopoly set, get the bits out of the box, fidget with the dog and the racecar, set up the bank and then let someone say "Wouldnt it be great if all this money was real" then you've had all the enjoyment out of it you are going to get. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwxt0RpUhLM
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Feb 26, 2022 00:15
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John Murdoch posted:That's also literally the whole point of Monopoly. And all of the dumb house rules just keep the agony going that much longer by allowing players to keep limping along past where they should be able to. ive got a coworker that hates Monopoly because "it takes forever" but he uses free parking and if you land on go you get $400 rules as written is the only way to play monopoly (its still bad)
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Feb 26, 2022 00:49
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Admiralty Flag posted:"give the lagging players a boost to avoid runaways" Socialism.
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Feb 26, 2022 01:03
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Oh my god, the suffering is the point. It's capitalism, you're not meant to have fun. New house rules: No one's allowed to sit while playing the game. Make the person in last place T-pose while holding a weight in their hands. Randomly inspect people's houses and take their television. The less fun you have playing the game, the more character you're building.
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Feb 26, 2022 01:07
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RareAcumen posted:Make the person in last place T-pose while holding a weight in their hands. Surely the winning player should be the one t-posing to assert their dominance?
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Feb 26, 2022 01:09
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I think what makes Monopoly a good game is that it is basically automatic and luck based with just enough interaction to make it not. If the trading aspect were more streamlined I bet Monopoly would make for an awesome game to bet on.DontMockMySmock posted:If you think monopoly is a cool and fun game, then you haven't ever played a good board game. Monopoly commits several sins, several of which would disqualify it from appearing on 99% of board gamer's tables. Yes, even if you play with the proper rules. Not entirely; sometimes you can find yourself in jail opting to not pay your way out. quote:
Why would there be frequent auctions? If you're playing with four people it should be enough to keep auctions to a minimum. quote:
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If there are only two players left, I don't think anyone has an issue if one wants to forfeit. But a good Monopoly game can shift on a single turn or like with two consecutive good rolls. I've had one game last three hours because one person owned all the railroads and the red/orange properties and the other everything else. It was the most exciting loving thing I've ever seen. quote:
The one-dollar bills are fiddly. We often just end up rounding. Really the only way to enjoy Monopoly is to play with four people minimum, play it fast, play aggressive as gently caress. Make reasonable trades, don't try to "sweeten the pot", don't try fuckin making weird quid pro quos, just get your business done and move on!
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Feb 26, 2022 01:29
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D34THROW posted:I have loving hated droidekas in every loving game I have seen them in too. It's amazing how loving fast the game goes by when you're not putting money on free parking and actually auctioning off unsold properties!
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Feb 26, 2022 01:35
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credburn posted:I think what makes Monopoly a good game is that it is basically automatic and luck based with just enough interaction to make it not. If the trading aspect were more streamlined I bet Monopoly would make for an awesome game to bet on. that's a lot of words to say "actually i enjoy suffering" loving tic tac toe is a better game than monopoly, because at least it ends in a timely fashion. Or you could play a good game! go on boardgamegeek.com and look at their top 200 user-rated games and pick literally any one of them and it'll be worlds better than monopoly. In fact, if you want a good game that has the same theming as monopoly, there's Monopoly Deal, a card game spinoff that was designed by someone whose head wasn't in their rear end at the time. I've only played it once or twice, like 10-12 years ago, but I remember it was decent. Howabout that?
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Feb 26, 2022 02:09
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 This was never supposed to happen. Megalopoly was always just a joke. It took 13 hours and the 2nd place player still had to be talked into quitting. She was convinced that she could pull off a victory when I had a giant stack of bills and she was mortgaging properties to pay rent. Although we did find out in that game that when you bankrupt a player you have to give the bank money because gently caress you. the rules posted:BANKRUPTCY… You are declared bankrupt if you owe more than
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Feb 26, 2022 02:26
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Lol The only time I've had fun with Monopoly was after drawing up a bunch of joke Chance & Community Chest cards that make the whole thing unbalanced as gently caress, just money and properties flying around between hands, and someone generally wins fairly soon because they basically inherit the entire bank 
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Feb 26, 2022 02:29
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DontMockMySmock posted:that's a lot of words to say "actually i enjoy suffering" I guess Monopoly and all those fall under "board game" but I don't really think of Monopoly and those others as being in the same category, basically for many of the reasons why you don't like it. In the Board Game Casino, Monopoly is like the slot machines and all those others are like craps and what have you. I guess what I mean is... Monopoly is not a "bad" game in the same way a slot machine is not a "bad" gambling device. You just have to know what you're getting into, and if you're good at it (which you can be; Monopoly, I mean, not he slot machine) it can be pretty fun. Anyway, I made my own version of Monopoly and it fuckin rocks and it's called MONOPOLOCITY even though that makes it sound like it goes fast but it is in fact a significantly longer game. 
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Feb 26, 2022 02:55
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Monopoly house rules are a great demonstrator of why game design is actually hard. Because pretty much every single common house rule looks like it makes the game more fair and fun, but actually just makes the game more frustrating and tedious. But because the perceived aid to fairness happens immediately, while the added tedium and frustration is abstract and happens later, people continue to think those house rules are good.
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Feb 26, 2022 03:30
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credburn posted:Anyway, I made my own version of Monopoly and it fuckin rocks and it's called MONOPOLOCITY even though that makes it sound like it goes fast but it is in fact a significantly longer game. I am intrigued and would love to learn more.
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Feb 26, 2022 03:45
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Len posted:
5D Monopoly with Multiverse Time Travel
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Vandar posted:I am intrigued and would love to learn more. In brief: corner pieces are split into two (that generally serve the same purpose, which works just as well since there's no way to roll a 1 and so you can't land on the same tile twice), one that forces the player to head down the diagonal path and one that allows the player to choose. Diagonal paths are "districts" and you don't build improvements on them; instead, if you own a monopoly, rent on those spaces are multiplied by ten. Middle piece is a railroad that connects all the other railroads. If a player has that piece, players can travel through the middle to other owned railroads if they pay the middle railroad's owner. There is one more utility. Two more chance/cc cards. Everything is priced to scale. There are also some casino aspects but honestly in order for everything to scale correctly I ended up with a couple extra pieces and needed this to be in some fashion consistent with the game, so whatever, casinos (the casinos basically potentially earn every player money, it's meant to be a quick dice roll and money thing but it's really the weakest part of this modification). I've played this with friends maybe fifty times, perhaps more? This board is new -- I printed it from a Photoshop thing I made. Previously we used a version of the board I painted on canvas using acrylic paint. Since everything is to scale, the game is super playable. Heading down the middle route early is chancy; the property cost is massive (though you do start with $1000 more -- the game absolutely falls apart without a significant boost to starting funds) but the middle properties are amazing deal makers later on. One of the new tiles forces you to forfeit all cash or mortgage all properties. There's another tile that is like a jackpot and based on how many times Go! has been passed, it can cash out up to $2,000. But the counter resets (that's what the D20 was for)... Since you can on any roll hit a railroad and with these modified rules you can travel through the middle to other railroads, it means you can potentially hit Go four times for every one someone without this capacity can do. It's an awesome strategy but since it doesn't show up until certain conditions are met, the game's flow has already changed. I love Monopoly, but honestly this version is the funnest I've had. It has the same Monopoly stuff, it's not filled with a bunch of bullshit (except the casino bit, ha). Based on opening conditions, players usually choose if they want to try for the traditional pieces, try for a railroad domination, or try to claim the middle, or try to just get the Board Walk / equivalent new middle pieces. You also have people heading different directions at the same time, which makes for cool dynamic strategies. I actually have the rules written out in a much more sensible fashion, with diagrams and everything but it's in print form. Gaius Marius posted:5D Monopoly with Multiverse Time Travel Your avatar looks like it's a person with a big head climbing on top of a thing and at the same time just a person with a big head.
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Feb 26, 2022 04:54
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what the gently caress is even happening in this thread
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Feb 26, 2022 06:44
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There's a monopoly happenin
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Feb 26, 2022 07:02
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ITT salty goons who lost at Monopoly
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Feb 26, 2022 07:21
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I played some Elden Ring tonight and found out that my cat loving hates it. The sound, specifically. While playing it she would not enter the room and even an hour later she was hesitant to enter. No idea what specifically, but it appears I'm going to need to play with headphones in the future.
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Morpheus posted:I played some Elden Ring tonight and found out that my cat loving hates it. The sound, specifically. While playing it she would not enter the room and even an hour later she was hesitant to enter. No idea what specifically, but it appears I'm going to need to play with headphones in the future. I don't know why but this is so funny to me. "My cat hates Elden Ring".
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Feb 26, 2022 10:10
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I adore the fact that the resolution to the problem is to acquiesce entirely to the cat's preferences like the good human it's trained you to be.
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Feb 26, 2022 10:16
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Opopanax posted:Literally the point of monopoly is how awful and crushing capitalism is, it's not supposed to be fun The original point yes but the people who bought the copyright tried to scrub out that message and replaced it with a "here's how you can get rich too!" The little card laying out the origin story within each boxed set of monopoly is a bald-faced lie. One of the earliest and purest observations that capitalism will subsume everything into itself.
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Feb 26, 2022 10:22
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The thing dragging down Elden Ring is that the enemy models literally turn invisible. Why it's fun to run into what I think is a safe location just to get slapped down by some slow rear end hollow chilling by a tree. That's what I get for trying to play a Souls game on PC. I was hoping to spend the first few days of this gitting gud.
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Feb 26, 2022 10:24
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credburn posted:I adore the fact that the resolution to the problem is to acquiesce entirely to the cat's preferences like the good human it's trained you to be. Look. I know where I stand on the house pecking order and it's below the cats.
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Feb 26, 2022 12:50
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credburn posted:
Guess you had to have been there.
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Not sure which thread it belongs in, but i had a great build in Vampire Survivors and was able to keep death at bay. The game brings out more than one death if you survive too long.
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Elden Ring : Torrent is a great way to get around, but after playing BoTW, its really hard to play an open world game without a glider. Everytime I get to a hilltop, all I want to do is glide down to the valley below.
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Feb 26, 2022 18:08
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Elden Ring : This is a great feature in Far Cry 6, also. You can glide for a bit, then violently eat poo poo against a hill because you're bad at videogames. Related, I'm looking forward to the AssCreed Valhalla expansion where you can turn into a bird.
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It's been 16 years since Just Cause, so I'm really surprised more games haven't stolen the infinite parachute and grappling combo.
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Philippe posted:This is a great feature in Far Cry 6, also. You can glide for a bit, then violently eat poo poo against a hill because you're bad at videogames. I feel like FC6 got halfway there. The parachute was just a little *too* slow for my liking, then the wingsuit seems awesome at first but then I don't use it much because yeah, it just instakills you at every possible opportunity. The idea's there, but the implementation needs some work.
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