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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/ramman_erin/status/1496900718527238145?cxt=HHwWgsC-_bjRh8YpAAAA

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Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer
Fuckin hell

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
my eggs!!

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

If you think about it the real parents are the ones who have financially contributed the most

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

kaschei posted:

If you think about it the real parents are the ones who have financially contributed the most

You can't have your investment fleeing from a warzone like that.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
praying for all the ovums in Ukraine... ur in my thoughts...

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

BonHair posted:


Incidentally, with any luck, crumbling infrastructure will hopefully cripple car culture within the next few decades.

Surely this won't lead to everybody needing an even bigger, more lifted truck

Femur
Jan 10, 2004
I REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
Motorcycles are what poor countties use.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
The Russians used a pencil.

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

if there were any justice in this world they would be immediately swapped in places upon voicing the concern that mah surrogates may not be respecting mah contract

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Femur posted:

Motorcycles are what poor countties use.

outside of the most densely populated nations poor countries mostly drive older/shittier cars that are both unsafe and pollute significantly more than modern cars

motorcycles also are much dirtier than modern cars as they don’t have all the emissions regulations and equipment; small engines like leaf blowers and lawn mowers are an environmental disaster as well, worse than bro trucks

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

mortons stork posted:

if there were any justice in this world they would be immediately swapped in places upon voicing the concern that mah surrogates may not be respecting mah contract

International Spermjacking

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Gorson posted:

What's really going to piss you off is when you start thinking how much more expensive our road systems have to be designed and built to accommodate truck freight, how much gridlock that freight causes, and the environmental impact of such gridlock.

Gorson posted:

Yeah this is true, but I think it's also true that in order to do any meaningful damage to the road the vehicle has to have a gross tonnage much closer to a fully loaded 18 wheeler. Rain, sun, and snow do more damage to road surfaces than 4000lb cars.

This does not mean cars should get heavier they should get lighter. NOT loving THIS.

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/oof-the-2022-gmc-hummer-will-weigh-in-excess-of-9000-lbs



And that people are commuting in giant trucks and SUVs by themselves and with no cargo, but they really neeeeded the cargo space. Sitting in this gridlock in a vehicle well oversized for its primary task, to go to a job that could probably be done remotely. :shepface:


IMO we really should be having hard limits on vehicle weight. Right now people are in an arms race with each other to get the biggest car so they can survive an impact from everyone else's Veblen Death Machine.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

BonHair posted:

I think the brilliant American solution to the problem of road maintenance is applicable though: ignore the problem forever. If we don't acknowledge the problem, it doesn't exist.

Incidentally, with any luck, crumbling infrastructure will hopefully cripple car culture within the next few decades.

If you let it break it becomes capital, not maintenance! :viggo:

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

skooma512 posted:

And that people are commuting in giant trucks and SUVs by themselves and with no cargo, but they really neeeeded the cargo space. Sitting in this gridlock in a vehicle well oversized for its primary task, to go to a job that could probably be done remotely. :shepface:


IMO we really should be having hard limits on vehicle weight. Right now people are in an arms race with each other to get the biggest car so they can survive an impact from everyone else's Veblen Death Machine.

that's authoritarianism

what you should do is engage in a mass media campaign

commission an advertising studio to make a bunch of ads with sad looking young white women with sad music and narration then buy up ad slots across the web and TV

you have to sway people with words to voluntarily do things of their own will

too poor for that?

well, you could just go door to door and talk to people

that'll work too

eventually

assuming nobody does the mass media thing and shits all over your efforts with a pile of cash

[shoves automaker advertising behind a curtain]

How!
Oct 29, 2009

Wheeee posted:

outside of the most densely populated nations poor countries mostly drive older/shittier cars that are both unsafe and pollute significantly more than modern cars

motorcycles also are much dirtier than modern cars as they don’t have all the emissions regulations and equipment; small engines like leaf blowers and lawn mowers are an environmental disaster as well, worse than bro trucks

this is wrong and dumb as hell.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

the second part is. a lovely motorbike is way more efficient and clean at moving a single person around than any ton+ car

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

How! posted:

this is wrong and dumb as hell.

motorcycles are much dirtier than modern cars, catalytic converters alone make a substantial difference and bikes don’t have those

low effort google result

quote:

Before any new car hits the showroom, the EPA runs an emissions evaluation and calculates a “CO2 equivalent” – a single number that represents GHGs CO2, NO X , HC, and CO. The CO2 equivalent units are in grams/mile, so a higher number means more GHGs and more climate damage. For a 2WD 2020 Ram 1500 HFE on the highway, that number is 340 g/mile. Unfortunately, motorcycle emissions data isn’t documented by the EPA. This is a real issue, because if the problem isn’t measured you don’t know what to fix.

There are a few independent studies that shed light on the issue, however. One published in 2008 by Swiss researchers took real data from several motorbikes including a BMW R1150GS. The GS highway CO2 equivalent is a stunning 380 g/mile (17% worse than the Dodge)! They found that a 1993 Honda Shadow VX600 with only 583 ccs spews a whopping 408 g/mile. That is twice as much as a new Honda Civic!

Other studies would suggest the problem is even worse. Global MRV tested out their portable emissions equipment in 2011 comparing 12-motorcycles to 12-cars of varying years (this was featured on an episode of Mythbusters). Motorcycles were almost universally terrible, with motorbikes from the 2000’s producing 3,220% more NOx and 8,065% more CO2 than cars of the same era. California has the largest motorcycle ridership in the country, and in 2008 the LA Times reported that while motorcycles accounted for 1% of all miles traveled, they were responsible for 10% of the state’s smog-producing emissions.

cars have only continued to get cleaner since 2011 as well, with hybrids becoming common, whereas motorcycles haven’t changed

i know being aggressively stupid is sort of a thing in cspam but yea, no

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires

Wheeee posted:

motorcycles are much dirtier than modern cars, catalytic converters alone make a substantial difference and bikes don’t have those


Pretty much every new motorcycle does though. At least ones that can be sold in Europe and the US. The EPA doesn't specifically require them, but they're the only way to meet current emissions requirements. My cheap small single cylinder motorcycle has one and also an air injection system which allows fresh air from the intake into the exhaust to make it more efficient, too

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Motorcycles are greener because they are better at killing their occupants, much like the greenest form of transport which is helicopters

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Mameluke posted:

Motorcycles are greener because they are better at killing their occupants, much like the greenest form of transport which is helicopters

john landis: ecowarrior ahead of his time

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Arivia posted:

john landis: ecowarrior ahead of his time

Pioneering anti-natalist!

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
comrade helicopter will kill more billionaires than any of us im afraid to say

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

sadly the helicopters billionaires fly in are probably immaculately maintained and flown by skilled pilots

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

Wheeee posted:

sadly the helicopters billionaires fly in are probably immaculately maintained and flown by skilled pilots

tell that to Kobe

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Orange DeviI posted:

tell that to Kobe

Or that football team owner guy in the UK last year 2018 (?)

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Wheeee posted:

sadly the helicopters billionaires fly in are probably immaculately maintained and flown by skilled pilots

Billionaires are definitely known for not skimping on the dumbest poo poo to save pathetic amounts of money, yep.

Though even if that's true, the best-maintained helicopter flown by the best pilot is still an unholy middle finger to the laws of physics and will find any chance it can to abruptly transition from flight mode to uncontrolled plummet mode.

Fats
Oct 14, 2006

What I cannot create, I do not understand
Fun Shoe

Wheeee posted:

cars have only continued to get cleaner since 2011 as well, with hybrids becoming common, whereas motorcycles haven’t changed

Bikes had to meet Euro 4 standards by 2017 and Euro 5 by 2021. It's a slow improvement, but there have been definite changes since 2011. The US is predictably behind on these standards, but most bike manufacturers end up building to Euro standards anyway (maybe not Harley, idk).

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Failed Imagineer posted:

Or that football team owner guy in the UK last year 2018 (?)

or chris cline

Skios
Oct 1, 2021

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

war_profiteering.png

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Exactly 110 reviews for the American, EU and Ukraine flags? Suspicious

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Realtors provide a valuable service

https://twitter.com/mortimer_1/status/1498729296243818498?t=cFCcoMLBE1fspFnC8WiMmQ&s=19

Feral Integral
Jun 6, 2006

YOSPOS

Shame Boy posted:

Billionaires are definitely known for not skimping on the dumbest poo poo to save pathetic amounts of money, yep.

Though even if that's true, the best-maintained helicopter flown by the best pilot is still an unholy middle finger to the laws of physics and will find any chance it can to abruptly transition from flight mode to uncontrolled plummet mode.

Get u a helicopter pilot that says 'maybe I shouldn't rather than 'maybe I should' ~~

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Is this the house all those step porns are set in?

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Dutch looks like what I would make up if you asked me to speak Dutch

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
srnircase;

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

lmao boomer used OCR on a note in cursive

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Ruffian Price posted:

lmao boomer used OCR on a note in cursive

I don't know what any of this means. You must be wrong about something :colbert:

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Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
im regenboog

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