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DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

the bitcoin of weed posted:

do we even know what the russian objective or intention is here, like are they doing an iraq war occupation and replacement of government or are they just going to annex the russian speaking regions and gently caress off? I haven't heard anything from them beyond putin saying occupation wasn't on the table in the war declaration, and it's not like that means anything

I thought he would disable Ukraine’s military so he could just let troops march in and occupy Luhansk and Donetsk but it seems he wants a Ukraine that is either cooperating with him (surrendering and working with him) or managed by him (puppet government)

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Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

mastershakeman posted:

He wants to repeat the Franco Prussian war

Down to the citizens of the capital being armed and unlikely to accept a surrender, only with a much worse ideology

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat

Mantis42 posted:

just accept that it was badass instead of trying to be a sarcastic know it all all the time

Getting all of your men killed for a sick burn isn't really badass

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Mantis42 posted:

just accept that it was badass instead of trying to be a sarcastic know it all all the time

Ok.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

huh not what i was expecting when i saw the sticker on the laptop

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Gripweed posted:

gamblers never expect to lose the cream of their cream.

Meant to say cream of the crop but crem de la crem actually conveys the point better. Many such cases!

What worries me is that he's mobilizing non-Russian militias to fight his war in Ukraine. Those guys will care less about committing atrocities, especially after 8 years of fighting ISIS.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Mantis42 posted:

just accept that it was badass instead of trying to be a sarcastic know it all all the time

Badass doesn’t mean anything. 13 lives do.

If the story is true, it was stupid, futile, and accomplished nothing of military value.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Conspiratiorist posted:

Oh, that's different from the one I was thinking of, that crashed near an apartment building.

The big explosion with damaged apartment building on a city street was an intercepted missile, supposedly based on the parts people were holding up

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497064005919203328?s=20&t=AAEIZpeX6mLbrS_uBAnhng

The SU-27 thing being attributed to that was one of four early explanations that people are now corroborating with unrelated photos of a jet that was definitely shot down at some other point somewhere else.

A Buffer Gay Dude
Oct 25, 2020

wow this seems like it should be much bigger news!

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

the bitcoin of weed posted:

do we even know what the russian objective or intention is here, like are they doing an iraq war occupation and replacement of government or are they just going to annex the russian speaking regions and gently caress off? I haven't heard anything from them beyond putin saying occupation wasn't on the table in the war declaration, and it's not like that means anything

Putin is trying to see how much he can get away with before things get really upset. He plays EU4.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Frosted Flake posted:

Down to the citizens of the capital being armed and unlikely to accept a surrender, only with a much worse ideology

the kiev kommissariat

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

mcclay posted:

Getting all of your men killed for a sick burn isn't really badass

its literally this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_G-sIkG2w to explain it through a lens the redditors thinking its epic would understand

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Man Musk posted:

Putin is trying to see how much he can get away with before things get really upset. He plays EU4.

if he played EU4 he'd have set his war goals by now!

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

Frosted Flake posted:

Their country is lost.

Should it also be destroyed?
It's up to them to decide that. I don't think they give a poo poo how maudlin it'd make you.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Niedar posted:

Still don't believe a word of anything not backed up by picture/video evidence or admitted by both sides. Just way too much false info.

I'm taking it with a grain of salt too, but that I'm finding it plausible at all just goes to show how much Russian planners hosed the dog.

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

paul_soccer12 posted:

its literally this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_G-sIkG2w to explain it through a lens the redditors thinking its epic would understand

It would be like if you posted a GIF of the guy in Kong: Skull Island who unpinned the grenades and marches to the creature like a badass and cut it off before he gets knocked away and blows up.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Al-Saqr posted:

yeah this is really embarrasing for russia how they dont have total air superiority at this point.

There's a cold war joke: After WW3, two Soviet generals are having lunch in the ruins of Paris. One of them turns to the other and says, "Oh yeah, I was wondering, who won the air war?"

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Kill All Cops posted:

no one could've forseen this happening

finally, we're free to post all the Putin-apologia we like without being interrupted by or antagonising other goons

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley

Chuka Umana posted:

USSR was dissolved, popular movements internally led to the fall of communism, and voters re-elected Yeltsin in the 1996 elections.

"We do not know who won the 1996 election, but we know it was not Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin"- Boris Yeltsin's political party.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


someone buy Texas an account

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
war machines are grotesqueries, youth gnashed into paste in the teeth of metal corpses

but at least they had a marvel one liner before being annihilated ha ha yassss

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Al-Saqr posted:

yeah this is really embarrasing for russia how they dont have total air superiority at this point.

It's so sad. Things are completely off the rails even from Putin's expectations. May Бог save us now.

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

Yeltsin was cool lol funny leader brain swimming in vodka

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

oh yeah did we ever get anything more on that plane that was shot down over kiev last night
Supposedly some wreckage that hit an apartment building.

Nothing more was posted in this thread though.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Fabricated posted:

It's up to them to decide that. I don't think they give a poo poo how maudlin it'd make you.

has anyone actually asked the ukranians if they want to fight a totalenkrieg

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Raskolnikov38 posted:

oh yeah did we ever get anything more on that plane that was shot down over kiev last night

Ukrainian defense ministry initially posted that it was Russia then posters were saying it was Ukraine.

I don't know why Ukraine would be flying planes if they had air defense. Maybe they do lack air defense in their capital.

Who can say at this point.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

the bitcoin of weed posted:

if he played EU4 he'd have set his war goals by now!

fast capitulation of ukraine and getting a few concesions seems like the only good outcome for russia (and ukraine tbh). everything else seems horrible

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
gently caress yeah dudes and dudettes, lets do ww3

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001
https://twitter.com/VVashingtonEdge/status/1497273966603366403

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
published in nyt opinion section but with gently caress replaced with heck

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Tiler Kiwi posted:

woke up and already tired :smith:

This has been a fabulous week for doing the laundry and sweeping the floors and making our pad immaculate. About all we're capable of, lol.

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth
America, The EU, and Australia are the new Axis Powers.

Russia, China, Iran, and the DPRK are the new Allies.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010


I'm loving livid we don't live in the timeline where Trump gets to do this. It'd be the funniest loving poo poo seeing him in a tent like this

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Oil! posted:

There is now a ninja in the Ukrainian Cultural Center in Los Angeles.



It did not end well for the Ninja of Kyiv.

https://twitter.com/HeyyImRob/status/1497440942592184321?s=20&t=WqlnverplIXe2CS9P1Un0g

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy


quote:

This article is about the other part of the Western Left. Those who imagined ‘NATO aggression in Ukraine’, and who could not see Russian aggression – like the New Orleans chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).

Or the DSA International Committee, which published a shameful statement failing to say a single critical word against Russia (I am very thankful to US professor and activist Dan la Botz and the others for their critique of this statement).

Or those who criticised Ukraine for not implementing the Minsk Agreements and kept silent about their violations by Russia and the so-called ‘People’s Republics’.

Or those who exaggerated the influence of the far-Right in Ukraine, but did not notice the far-Right in the ‘People’s Republics’ and avoided criticising Putin’s conservative, nationalist and authoritarian policy. Part of the responsibility for what is happening rests with you.

This is part of the wider phenomenon in the Western ‘anti-war’ movement, usually called ‘campism’ by critics on the Left. British-Syrian author and activist Leila Al-Shami gave it a stronger name: the “anti-imperialism of idiots”. Read her wonderful 2018 essay if you haven’t done so yet. I will repeat only the main thesis here: the activity of a large part of the Western ‘anti-war’ Left over the war in Syria had nothing to do with stopping the war. It only opposed Western interference, while ignoring, or even supporting, the engagement of Russia and Iran, to say nothing of their attitude to the ‘legitimately elected’ Assad regime in Syria.

...

How many times did the Western Left bring up the US’s informal promises to the former Russian president, Mikhail Gorbachev, about NATO (“not one inch eastward”), and how many times did it mention the 1994 Budapest Memorandum that guarantees Ukraine’s sovereignty? How often did the Western Left support the “legitimate security concerns” of Russia, a state that owns the world’s second-largest nuclear arsenal? And how often did it recall the security concerns of Ukraine, a state that had to trade its nuclear weapons, under the pressure of the US and Russia, for a piece of paper (the Budapest Memorandum) that Putin trampled conclusively in 2014? Did it ever occur to Leftist critics of NATO that Ukraine is the main victim of the changes brought about by the NATO expansion?

Time and again, the Western Left responded to the critique of Russia by mentioning US aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and other states. Of course, these states need to be brought into the discussion – but how, exactly?

The argument of the Left should be, that in 2003, other governments did not put enough pressure on the United States over Iraq. Not that it is necessary to exert less pressure on Russia over Ukraine now.

...

I am not a fan of liberal internationalism. Socialists should criticise it. But this does not mean that we have to support the division of ‘spheres of interest’ between imperialist states.

...

Putin can plan whatever he wants, but even if Russia seizes Kyiv and instals its occupational government, we will resist it. The struggle will last until Russia gets out of Ukraine and pays for all the victims and all the destruction.

Hence, my last words are addressed to the Russian people: hurry up and overthrow the Putin regime. It is in your interests as well as ours.

:jerkbag:

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Raskolnikov38 posted:

has anyone actually asked the ukranians if they want to fight a totalenkrieg

deploy nate silver to analyze the numbers on the ground until we can craft the perfect question to make them say "Yes"

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Ah poo poo

https://twitter.com/felix_light/status/1497407754855612420?t=T6xkEBjJzG1p472mMiJVIg&s=19

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Rectal Death Adept posted:

The big explosion with damaged apartment building on a city street was an intercepted missile, supposedly based on the parts people were holding up

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1497064005919203328?s=20&t=AAEIZpeX6mLbrS_uBAnhng

The SU-27 thing being attributed to that was one of four early explanations that people are now corroborating with unrelated photos of a jet that was definitely shot down at some other point somewhere else.

this reminds me that I’ve seen fire fighters peppered throughout the invasion vids and they are the actual badass hero’s of this thing in my book.

Schnorkles
Apr 30, 2015

It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.
Kinda wild that Russia doesn't have air superiority totally hammered down yet. Not sure it matters when the heavy equipment gets to Kyiv

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MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth
Have you guys seen the Ukraine gang tag D&D wants its so cringe :ughh:

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