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I THINK all throne world weapons will drop from any source on the planet once you've had one, so it's not that bad. It's probably best to save your Fynch level up engrams until you have one of each because of this.
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I unlocked tarnation and didnt see any while looting a ton of chests that gave throne world weapons. Also, zero point banking Fynch engrams until 30 since they just give world pool before 30, and 30 requires you to loot all stored engrams.
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Feb 26, 2022 17:25
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Just beat legendary campaign, went all  at the endingGame slaps, osteo striga rules and the more solidified identity of the darkness in general is a big step up from shadowkeep. It seemed like bungie didn't settle on the darkness's 'culture' and themes until now. I think glaives are loving terrible though. Such a poo poo and uninteresting weapon to use, and I can't see any real use for them. If you're having to melee with them in any reasonably challenging content, you're as good as loving dead. Try using one in the legendary campaign and your lifespan will be measured in picoseconds. The ranged feature is weak and doesn't do anywhere near enough damage to justify low clip sizes and special ammo slot. Zedsdeadbaby fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Feb 26, 2022 17:41
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Just beat legendary campaign, went all the glaive shield is incredibly strong and can block a goliath tank shot even on legendary, while still letting you shoot back. the supressing glaive artifact mod is busted, giving a blinding effect to both ranged and melee. Though since that's a seasonal thing we'll have to see how that goes in the future. I used melee in legendary campaign and 1550 nightfall as both void hunter and titan. You can't just walk up and start smacking especially big things, but if you separate enemies it's totally viable. The ranged could def use a buff though.
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Feb 26, 2022 17:51
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The melee combo on glaives feels really good, but the projectile is poo poo. Either make it hit like a truck, or make the hitbox bigger. The sheer amount of new complex stuff felt impenetrable at first, but if you do the campaign first, it feels like there's a ton of ongoing post-campaign content which some of the other expansions were really lacking. Bungie has finally nailed how to deliver content over the past year or so. And I LOVE that they finally gave us a shooting gallery to test out our weapons. Witness looks like a Matrix-era goth kid. I like the billowing heads, but I was hoping for something way weirder looking in the face and body structure.
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One of the glaive "barrel" options has the effect of greatly increasing range; it'll never be a sniper rifle but it lets you plink at things and hit guys on distant ledges you probably wouldn't expect to. And yeah, suppressing glaive is mandatory for now, especially in legendary campaign I was expecting more of a Taken King structure where you force Savathun to retreat at the end of the campaign and actually kill her stone dead for good in the raid. I didn't expect to kill her solo and also meet the next big bad immediately. It was a pretty badass fight though, and I like the logic of how you beat her vvvvvv If you go to the enclave and walk past the crafting table, there's a chasm with a bunch of weird things hanging in the air. You can shoot them and watch numbers pop out and they don't move so you can use them for range testing. You will eventually be led here by a post-campaign quest if you don't discover it haveblue fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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sticklefifer posted:And I LOVE that they finally gave us a shooting gallery to test out our weapons. What's this, now?
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Junkenstein posted:What's this, now? Behind the forge is another staircase, there's some coins floating you can shoot to test falloff. Unfortunately they aren't enemies so you can't test aim assist and can't kill them so can't test any kill procs. But it's still a nice addition (not as nice as menagerie but at least it's something).
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Is that their actual purpose, or is that just incidental to some other thing I haven’t done yet?
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It replenishes your ammo as you fire, so yeah, target practice seems to be the only purpose.
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haveblue posted:vvvvvv If you go to the enclave and walk past the crafting table, there's a chasm with a bunch of weird things hanging in the air. You can shoot them and watch numbers pop out and they don't move so you can use them for range testing. You will eventually be led here by a post-campaign quest if you don't discover it Speaking of floating objects that can be shot but not destroyed, there's a wisp in the Altar of Reflections that says "Immune" if you shoot it. Purely decorative objects don't typically do that.
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Feb 26, 2022 18:38
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Yeah, there are a bunch of those around, and a related triumph. There’s a thing you can do later after some other post-campaign questing. I’ve gotten as far as learning the thing but refuse to use a walkthrough to find them, that part I actually enjoy.
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The Parasite is low key kind of loving amazing. Even without any stacks it hits for like 200k. I kinda want to make a build around it...
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Plus, the quest line for it involves Mara Sov not actually loving something up, so that was fun
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Bad Munki posted:Plus, the quest line for it involves Mara Sov not actually loving something up, so that was fun Indeed! Great dialogue in it too.
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I ran a few wellsprings with Parasite equipped, and the worm had dialogue at the end was that specifically because I had parasite on, or is that just a thing that can happen generally
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Feb 26, 2022 19:58
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Have any of Mara's schemes been a failure?? She's batting a thousand from what I can recall She even picked up the bonus objective from the Savathun Heist last season
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Mazerunner posted:I ran a few wellsprings with Parasite equipped, and the worm had dialogue at the end I've seen parasite dialog at the start without it equipped. I assume it's just related to unlocking it.
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It’s so funny that Savathun’s master plan was to have no plan and die from getting stabbed in the kidneys by a rock, just masterful storytelling and one of the unironically best directed cut scenes in the series LoL lmao
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Bust Rodd posted:It’s so funny that Savathun’s master plan was to have no plan and die from getting stabbed in the kidneys by a rock, just masterful storytelling and one of the unironically best directed cut scenes in the series Say whaaaaat? Savathun's death and revival by Immaru was incredibly orchestrated. You know that wasn't the first time she and her ghost had met, right?
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Bust Rodd posted:It’s so funny that Savathun’s master plan was to have no plan and die from getting stabbed in the kidneys by a rock, just masterful storytelling and one of the unironically best directed cut scenes in the series I took it as her plan was to teleport away as soon as the crystal broke. So in that sense, she did succeed. But it seems like she had a crystal shard lodged into her lung which lead to a painful death in front of the traveler. I could be wrong, but that was the impression that I got.
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The Glaive kinda owns. The shooting part is actually pretty strong when you're in range and it's hampered by low clip size and bad reload speed. Luckily there are solutions to both and having a fast melee to clear red bars and a decent shoot to kill yellows on the same weapon is pretty good.Bust Rodd posted:It’s so funny that Savathun’s master plan was to have no plan and die from getting stabbed in the kidneys by a rock, just masterful storytelling and one of the unironically best directed cut scenes in the series It was all planned out though but it was a gamble. That's why she says wouldn't it be funny if you just let me die? to the Traveler. She set up her Throneworld to Memento her past back to her in case her plan worked out and she was turned into a Risen by the Traveler. It all basically hinged on "if I die on Earth as a normal living being without the touch of Darkness and I dunno, maybe pray a lot to the Traveler I have a chance of being rezzed by a Ghost" although it's entirely possible she put some magic on herself that tagged herself as Ghost Targetable before losing her Worm. Mesadoram posted:Indeed! Great dialogue in it too. Uh huh...
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Maybe you guys picked lovely perks Idk my glaive is a murder-machine and the ranged attack mulches yellow bars
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Eej posted:Uh huh... The sass was such a  moment.
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Savathun and Immaru have been in cahoots since before the events of Season of the Lost Bust Rodd posted:Maybe you guys picked lovely perks Idk my glaive is a murder-machine and the ranged attack mulches yellow bars It's real powerful against stuff on patrol or in like, Playlist strikes, but it's pretty anemic against high level content. The seasonal artifact mods will give it some utility in Legend+ content but it's definitely not going to be a stellar weapon in season 17 and beyond 
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There seems to be a very strong correlation between Glaive hatred and use of an unimproved Glaive in legend campaign. It wrecks in normal content especially once you tweak its perks a bit and get the Suppressing Glaive mod.
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Wading into melee with it isn't super great if you're afraid of dying, though proccing Devour and going ham on a swarm of red bars does feel pretty badass
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Suppressing glaive let’s you chain melee almost anything to death if no one interferes
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Shout out to whomever mentioned Xur was selling Dead Man's Tale with Vorpal Weapon. The vorpal roll really helped me get past those stupid cabal tanks I was stuck on in the campaign. What rolls should I be looking out for with Xur for Hawkmoon? Also, very glad Bungie has hopefully given up on the random rolls on Exotics? I really hate that poo poo. EDIT: Does Dead Man's Tale Catalyst still drop from somewhere? Snuffman fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Snuffman posted:EDIT: Does Dead Man's Tale Catalyst still drop from somewhere? quote:The following catalysts now have a chance to drop when completing Vanguard, Crucible, or Gambit activities:
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There’s also a Monarque catalyst now, I got it from my first gambit match of Witch Queen.
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haveblue posted:Suppressing glaive let’s you chain melee almost anything to death if no one interferes It's real good at stunlocking Nightmares in Altars of Sorrow.
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Paracelsus posted:It's real good at stunlocking Nightmares in Altars of Sorrow. the fact that you don't need to ADS for several seconds for the stun makes it an easy first choice for unstoppables
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PERMACAV 50 posted:There’s also a Monarque catalyst now, I got it from my first gambit match of Witch Queen. Oh poo poo. I love the Monarque. Does the catalyst do anything good?
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Snuffman posted:Shout out to whomever mentioned Xur was selling Dead Man's Tale with Vorpal Weapon. The vorpal roll really helped me get past those stupid cabal tanks I was stuck on in the campaign. Hammer forged / Smallbore for the barrel perk. most things like killing wind, moving target, opening shot are good - range finder is ideal. For the grip perk, really anything that stats out the weapon rather than having negatives is going to be good combat/smooth/polymer are good. The only bad perks are kind of surplus, quickdraw and hip fire in the middle column. Anything he sells is probably going to be worth trying out. Some people don't like the recoil pattern others do. It's also pretty much only good in PVP. Yeah you can use the paracausal for decent damage in PVE but it's kind of a waste in slot considering other options. My ideal would be Hammer forged, range finder and smooth grip. Play around with rolls in this site https://d2gunsmith.com/ for a lot of different stuff if you're not sure if something is worth keeping or if you're running the right perk combos. If you've already got a god roll Eyasluna or Palindrome for PVP you're probably already set for handcannons though and it's nice to have but not a need.
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Snuffman posted:Oh poo poo. I love the Monarque. Does the catalyst do anything good? Some stat boosts and unrelenting. Not a game changer but very nice.
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I got to the final phase of the Moth Mom fight and for whatever reason I just can’t clutch it on legendary. I know what I have to do but I am just getting absolutely roasted by the wizards before I can take them out (usually on the second dps round). I should just swap Gjally for Bad Omens and take a secondary exotic with solar like Hard Light but I was trying not to swap away from my high dps heavy for the dps phase. Probably need to just swap my gear around and give it another go.
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Tensokuu posted:I got to the final phase of the Moth Mom fight and for whatever reason I just can’t clutch it on legendary. I know what I have to do but I am just getting absolutely roasted by the wizards before I can take them out (usually on the second dps round). Keep Gjallarhorn and use that new solar pulse to strip the witch shields.
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Yeah, the secret to legendary really is just putting a little thought into your loadout. A long-range heavy for boss damage, a solar weapon for wizard killing, and a staple primary to handle everything else (which can also be solar). I did well with a roaming super that could take out more than one wizard and entourage per pop
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