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https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851 The Russian airborne forces are not having a good war.
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Jesus. It'd be kinder to shoot them in the back of the head before dropping them. They would have had minutes.
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Feb 26, 2022 21:41
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:My understanding is that Soviet doctrine is about battalion level and below just executing pre-made drills for simple orders a while any sort of initiative and strategy happens at the field grade and above, evidently they haven’t evolved much from that. Yep, this was actually one of the big weaknesses in a lot of Arab armies in their battles versus Israel. Israel had command delegation and the Syrians were all terrified to do anything without orders from the top and the Israelis exploited that by taking out the Syrian command structure.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Starting to get the idea that Glenn Greenwald is quite possibly a loving moron He's a strong contender for dumbest motherfucker on Earth. But nice to have around since if someone says something pro-Glenn you can just ignore anything else that person ever says.
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Financial director for Gazprom, Russia's state-owned energy company and largest Russian company by revenue, found dead of suicide. (Warning: article in Russian)
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To whoever asked if the Ukrainians have bagged a general yet, the answer may be yes. https://mobile.twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1497659472411570179?s=21
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Stultus Maximus posted:https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1497631911241564164 Wait really? lol
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Jesus. It'd be kinder to shoot them in the back of the head before dropping them. Literally starting to feel bad for them
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Feb 26, 2022 21:52
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:To whoever asked if the Ukrainians have bagged a general yet, the answer may be yes. But it doesn't make have sense having chechens moving all the way over to the northwestern part of the AO.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Wait really? lol quote:I had not abandoned my trust in the Bush administration. Between the president's performance in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, the swift removal of the Taliban in Afghanistan, and the fact that I wanted the president to succeed, because my loyalty is to my country and he was the leader of my country, I still gave the administration the benefit of the doubt. I believed then that the president was entitled to have his national security judgment deferred to, and to the extent that I was able to develop a definitive view, I accepted his judgment that American security really would be enhanced by the invasion of this sovereign country.
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Feb 26, 2022 21:57
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seems premature to say russia is losing when they've been taking ground nonstop and have kiev encircled. too bad biden and the state department will never be held accountable for leaving ukraine in the wind
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Feb 26, 2022 21:58
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Stairmaster posted:seems premature to say russia is losing when they've been taking ground nonstop and have kiev encircled. too bad biden and the state department will never be held accountable for leaving ukraine in the wind no one is saying Russian is losing, but their plan absolutely went to poo poo when the first airport takeover was repulsed after they couldn't get any forces to it due to them eating javelins left and right. they are absolutely taking losses they were not expecting.
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Feb 26, 2022 22:02
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Stairmaster posted:seems premature to say russia is losing when they've been taking ground nonstop and have kiev encircled. too bad biden and the state department will never be held accountable for leaving ukraine in the wind
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Have there been any further reports about the two transport planes supposedly downed last night?
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Russian casualties so far, per Ukraine MoD (so take with a grain of salt, but they seem to have been fairly accurate so far): https://twitter.com/MattMcBradley/status/1497672326606950409 The Russians have already lost almost 1.5 times as many troops in the first 3 days as the US lost during 20 years of war in Afghanistan. psydude fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Finland lost the Winter War but Russia had a hell of a pyrrhic victory. This will probably go the same way.
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Arrath posted:Have there been any further reports about the two transport planes supposedly downed last night? It was confirmed by the US. AWACS on the Polish border saw it. https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497430637166407686 Also: https://twitter.com/ECampbell360/status/1497670938720182277?t=FGCK-w5eGWTe_Vnp1sRMYg&s=19
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Proud Christian Mom posted:no one is saying Russian is losing, but their plan absolutely went to poo poo when the first airport takeover was repulsed after they couldn't get any forces to it due to them eating javelins left and right. they are absolutely taking losses they were not expecting. How do you know what level of losses the russians were expecting? They knew what lethal aid the ukrainian army was getting and nobody in their right mind would plan an airborne op without considering the highly likely outcome of it failing. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Proud Christian Mom posted:no one is saying Russian is losing, but their plan absolutely went to poo poo when the first airport takeover was repulsed after they couldn't get any forces to it due to them eating javelins left and right. they are absolutely taking losses they were not expecting. They’re not winning though.
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Cythereal posted:It was confirmed by the US. AWACS on the Polish border saw it. Like calling your parents from jail
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https://twitter.com/igorkossov/status/1497668952159363084?s=21 Super pro click for very up to minute military details from the Kyiv Independent.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Encircled isn't accurate. Forays have been made into the city, but repelled. The airborne attempts to encircle have proven unsuccessful. Biden and the State Department never made promises beyond arms and sanctions, with actual military intervention being nonviable unless we wanted to start WW3. Yeah I'm not saying Biden doesn't have room for improvement but his response pre- and post- invasion seems competent and realistic. Organized a coherent response from European allies while making it clear America has their back, sent Ukraine large amounts of useful weapons, and warned Russia repeatedly not to invade and afterwards has followed up to enact sanctions. Some suggestions I've seen haven't been sane and likely to provoke a shooting war, such as NATO establishing a no-fly zone or sending carriers into the Black Sea, or pressing a button to admit Ukraine into NATO. Especially as the alternative to Biden would either have sided with Putin, left NATO, or demanded payments be sent to him personally.
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Stairmaster posted:seems premature to say russia is losing when they've been taking ground nonstop and have kiev encircled. too bad biden and the state department will never be held accountable for leaving ukraine in the wind What in the gently caress
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Stairmaster posted:nobody in their right mind would plan an airborne op without considering the highly likely outcome of it failing. There's "airborne drops are inherently risky" and then there's "we watched one IL-76 go down and then decided to do it again and lost a second." I mean I haven't been through War College or even Battle Staff but I've always had the impression that when you don't have control over the skies or a decent path through air defense, airborne operations are a Bad Idea™
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Loden Taylor posted:There's "airborne drops are inherently risky" and then there's "we watched one IL-76 go down and then decided to do it again and lost a second." The Soviets and Russians have a really weird fetish for airborne stuff. Like back in the 30s there were tons of parachute training clubs for regular citizens.
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:To whoever asked if the Ukrainians have bagged a general yet, the answer may be yes. Whoa! I was just guessing that felt inevitable. Next prediction: widespread mutinies and defections
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Loden Taylor posted:There's "airborne drops are inherently risky" and then there's "we watched one IL-76 go down and then decided to do it again and lost a second." I'd imagine it would be combined with pretty comprehensive SEAD and EW coverage, but I'm not in charge of Russia's Most Beautiful War You've Ever Seen.
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Stairmaster posted:too bad biden and the state department will never be held accountable for leaving ukraine in the wind I'm taking this out on you as a representative of this talking point, which I keep seeing. What the gently caress do you want the US to do? Putin has the world's largest supply of canned sunshine, is a megalomaniac on his best days, and seems to no longer be having his best days. Too many people are forgetting that for the first time in a generation, the guy on the other side has tha ability to end the world.
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Nuke map still down? It's been 2 days now
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Handsome Ralph posted:Agreed with the rest of your post but on this, nah, take it from me, gently caress Gravel "Institute". I was an early supporter and was happy to see them say they were going to attempt to take Prager U's bullshit head on, but all they've done is get high on their own supply and put out their own terrible bullshit that sells false narratives. A lot of these assholes seem to think just because they want Medicare for all, they're also righteous about everything else. I think we're basically on the same page about them based on our shared use of quotation marks around "institute".
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stealie72 posted:I'm taking this out on you as a representative of this talking point, which I keep seeing. Beats me. The same people trying to blame this entirely on the Biden Administration also wouldn't accept putting any US forces on the ground. The US and NATO allies engaged in the most intense diplomatic sprint since probably the end of the cold war, if not the Cuban Missile Crisis (to include getting reluctant Russophile countries like Germany on board with sanctions); supplied a large amount of advanced infantry weapons to the Ukrainian ground troops; were very clear in declassifying intelligence to brief everyone of the severity of the situation; and were also very clear about the economic costs that Russia would incur. There were policy failures going back to 2014 (including a soft response by the Obama administration, and then literal extortion by the Trump administration), but the run up to this was handled about as deftly as any administration in their situation possibly could. Sometimes a madman is at the wheel and you can't do anything but cushion the impact. psydude fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Stairmaster posted:seems premature to say russia is losing when they've been taking ground nonstop and have kiev encircled. too bad biden and the state department will never be held accountable for leaving ukraine in the wind i can't believe the us would make russia do this edit:  
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:To whoever asked if the Ukrainians have bagged a general yet, the answer may be yes. May he rest in piss. The sheer level of war crimes I’ve seen recorded today, including an attack on an ambulance has been… gently caress this rear end in a top hat.
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... Did anyone else see the samurai sword or was it just me? The last thing some Russian hears is going to be "Omae wa mou shindeiru."
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Stultus Maximus posted:https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1497631911241564164 I'm sorry, is this the same tucker max of I hope they serve beer in hell / early 2000's internet famous for having a dating application on his website? Did he pull his head of his rear end finally or is he just still being an rear end in a top hat?
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zharmad posted:I'm sorry, is this the same tucker max of I hope they serve beer in hell / early 2000's internet famous for having a dating application on his website? Did he pull his head of his rear end finally or is he just still being an rear end in a top hat? He got worst. He owns a publishing agency that offers ghostwriting services and he and his wife tweet redpilled alt right poo poo. CRT and all that.
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stealie72 posted:I'm taking this out on you as a representative of this talking point, which I keep seeing. Yeah, these are basically the key considerations. The general intelligence coming back is that the war is a one-man decision (Putin) and he's not acting like, or is thinking like, he used to. One tweet from an analyst was basically like "Putin sounds like he spent the entire pandemic reading crazy books." And considering how accurate the intelligence community got this whole thing, yeesh. So the administration is asking hard questions (and delaying) like - could Russia/Putin interpret providing more guns/ammo to Ukraine right now as actively joining the war, or the usual stuff we/they do have done for years? Is that even legal? Could those guns/ammo get to where they're needed, or is the general situation too hosed and the Russians could get them? psydude posted:Sometimes a madman is at the wheel and you can't do anything but cushion the impact.
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zharmad posted:I'm sorry, is this the same tucker max of I hope they serve beer in hell / early 2000's internet famous for having a dating application on his website? Did he pull his head of his rear end finally or is he just still being an rear end in a top hat? Tucker Max was the poster child for date rapist frat bro’s. Honestly I’m surprised he has any thing now, because his shtick is no longer in the mainstream to say the very least. Last thing I remember reading about him was that his writing for Hustler.
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