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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
To quote an acquaintance who works in banking operations, if you’re a bank without access to swift and you need to send or receive money from another bank, you’re down to sending a guy with a suitcase or mailing a check.

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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
aaaaaand

now we're cooking

https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1497706790162767874

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Defenestrategy posted:

question: Do European countries still do the different rail gauge thing to prevent other countries from using their own rolling stock in a war scenario or was that largely abandoned after WW1?

I mean, you can take a passenger train from Germany to Venice without getting off. Most of the highspeed rail lines in Europe are dedicated use, but they do share tracks with freight in and around major cities. Given Russia and Ukraine's (formerly) close economic ties, I'm sure they were the same.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





if this ends with a ton of superyachts getting seized from sacks of poo poo like i used to work for then i am probably going to loving die laughing

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

https://twitter.com/apmassaro3/status/1497694456711110664 lol

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010
https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1497668093996421127

Of course they do.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



New smiley!

Kamrat posted:

Nicely done :ukraine:

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/AlitaNicholas/status/1497596012919427072

There are just some people in this country (and world) with incurable brain worms.

carrionman
Oct 30, 2010

FrozenVent posted:

To quote an acquaintance who works in banking operations, if you’re a bank without access to swift and you need to send or receive money from another bank, you’re down to sending a guy with a suitcase or mailing a check.

So what does this look like after the war? I'm all for loving Putin over, but this gonna hurt the everyday Russians a shitload too, and really play into the narrative of everyone being out to get them.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good step for now, but if Germany is anything to go by, hurting the people to punish leadership leads to.. issues later on

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
The Russian people are not completely cut off from the outside world (well, outside of this particular moment in time). They'll learn what their government did and why they're feeling the hurt, too.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
From Ukraine’s Parliament’s Telegram

quote:

The Russian occupant has caused an ecological disaster!

Warning! The smoke and toxic fumes coming from the oil fire in Vasylkiv can blow in any direction; the wind patterns are inconsistent. Close your windows.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

carrionman posted:

So what does this look like after the war? I'm all for loving Putin over, but this gonna hurt the everyday Russians a shitload too, and really play into the narrative of everyone being out to get them.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good step for now, but if Germany is anything to go by, hurting the people to punish leadership leads to.. issues later on

Make them redo their constitution post WWII Japan style. Russia is not allowed to have an offensively capable army again for a long time.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Make them redo their constitution post WWII Japan style. Russia is not allowed to have an offensively capable army again for a long time.

Uh yeah good luck with that

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Oh, it might have been my other tweet where I sent this picture.



There may have been something in that tweet about a shallow grave full of piss with lone turd floating in it. I dunno. Hard to tell on Twitter, I said a lot of weird poo poo to Putin on there today.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Milo and POTUS posted:

Uh yeah good luck with that

A man can dream, ok?

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Naked Bear posted:

The Russian people are not completely cut off from the outside world (well, outside of this particular moment in time). They'll learn what their government did and why they're feeling the hurt, too.

Good point. The difference between this and post World War II Germany is people can learn very quickly that their leader offed himself in a bunker as opposed to dying in battle as was initially advertised to the people.

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010

quote:

A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but this is worth talking about separately a little later.
Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in all its totality of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia - for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them.

The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation - when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that "only Ukraine is the real Russia," or to gnash one's teeth helplessly, remembering the times when "we lost Ukraine." Returning Ukraine, that is, turning it back to Russia, would be more and more difficult with every decade - recoding, de-Russification of Russians and inciting Ukrainian Little Russians against Russians would gain momentum. And if the West consolidates full geopolitical and military control over Ukraine, its return to Russia would become completely impossible - it would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.

Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. Within what boundaries, in what form will the alliance with Russia be consolidated (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.
And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era - it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage - the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe. And he is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul he must admit to himself that it could not be otherwise.

Did someone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kyiv? That the Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control of European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unification of Germany, which took place according to the good Russian (albeit not very smart) will. To swipe after that also on Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. In order not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools.
More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. But the fact that it did not work should have been clear twenty years ago. And already fifteen years ago, after Putin's Munich speech, even the deaf could hear - Russia is returning.

Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of the western space to the east. Seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. But this has not been the case for a long time - the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No amount of Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. There will be losses from the sublimation of confrontation on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. But for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation incurs huge costs - and the main ones are not at all economic.
Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy - the German project of European integration does not make strategic sense while maintaining the Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. Yes, and it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. But Europe needs autonomy for another reason as well — in case the States go into self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.

But the confrontation with Russia, into which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives the Europeans of even the chances of independence - not to mention the fact that in the same way Europe is trying to impose a break with China. If now the Atlanticists are happy that the "Russian threat" will unite the Western bloc, then in Berlin and Paris they cannot fail to understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new iron curtain on their eastern borders - realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose century (more precisely, half a millennium) of global leadership is over in any case - but various options for its future are still possible.
Because the construction of a new world order - and this is the third dimension of current events - is accelerating, and its contours are more and more clearly visible through the spreading cover of Anglo-Saxon globalization. A multipolar world has finally become a reality - the operation in Ukraine is not capable of rallying anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world sees and understands perfectly well - this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia's return of its historical space and its place in the world.

China and India, Latin America and Africa, the Islamic world and Southeast Asia - no one believes that the West leads the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not only challenged the West, it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, naturally, together with the West (united or not) - but not on its terms and not according to its rules.

google translate of this:
https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

e: poo poo, there was a lot more :stare::stare::stare:

Hannibal Rex fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Feb 27, 2022

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler
Critical support...from New Hampshire

https://nhjournal.com/shots-fired-sununu-hits-putin-with-nh-ban-on-russian-booze/

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!

Hannibal Rex posted:

google translate of this:
https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

e: poo poo, there was a lot more :stare::stare::stare:
... of course, the people of Russia will have to climb out from under this bullshit first, but still, they'll get there in time.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
If you wanna check out the Russian propaganda side of this, check out the C-Spam thread, it's like stepping into another dimension

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

If you wanna check out the Russian propaganda side of this, check out the C-Spam thread, it's like stepping into another dimension

No thank you! I have no desire to enter the Eye Of Terror.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Hannibal Rex posted:

google translate of this:
https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

e: poo poo, there was a lot more :stare::stare::stare:

Alright, maybe ease up there, Dostoevsky.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Radical 90s Wizard posted:

If you wanna check out the Russian propaganda side of this, check out the C-Spam thread, it's like stepping into another dimension

give us some highlights, i'm not dipping myself into that filth

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

If you wanna check out the Russian propaganda side of this, check out the C-Spam thread, it's like stepping into another dimension

Oh weird it's like it's all filled with fascists who are pretending to be leftists and horseshoed goons.

IPCRESS
May 27, 2012

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

If you wanna check out the Russian propaganda side of this, check out the C-Spam thread, it's like stepping into another dimension

Breaking news on RT: The US Aircraft Carrier USS America was shot down over the Russian city of Warsaw earlier today. Experts say America will never recover from this, and that this heralds the end of the Ukrainian army's war of aggression that they've chosen to fight exclusively in their own borders (which, to be clear, were our borders all along) to try to make strong Russia look bad.

Our peace keepers in DefinitelyRussia celebrated with two loaves of hot bread while showering.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012




That's some freedom fries energy right there.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

If you wanna check out the Russian propaganda side of this, check out the C-Spam thread, it's like stepping into another dimension

This guy sums up that line of discussion better than I can.

https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1496834220865757185

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

If you wanna check out the Russian propaganda side of this, check out the C-Spam thread, it's like stepping into another dimension

Are they parroting the “Putin threw away IL76s and various units to test defenses” thing as well as “every video you see of dead Russians or Russian war crimes is a Ukrainian blue on blue?” like tankie Reddit is?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

give us some highlights, i'm not dipping myself into that filth

There's two major threads I've seen over there.

1. Armed resistance from the civilian population is bad, because more people will die when the Russian reprisals start continue are broadcast.

2. Sphere of influence security concern BS.

I will say, the first thing is novel as I've never ever heard something to the tune of "citizens of a nation should never hinder a foreign invader"

Jokers Gamble
May 31, 2013

Defenestrategy posted:

There's two major threads I've seen over there.

1. Armed resistance from the civilian population is bad, because more people will die when the Russian reprisals start continue are broadcast.

2. Sphere of influence security concern BS.

I will say, the first thing is novel as I've never ever heard something to the tune of "citizens of a nation should never hinder a foreign invader"

Ahh yes, the Russian military, famously humane to unarmed civilians.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
I wonder what cspam’s thoughts on the Holodomor are.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Are they parroting the “Putin threw away IL76s and various units to test defenses” thing as well as “every video you see of dead Russians or Russian war crimes is a Ukrainian blue on blue?” like tankie Reddit is?

Try "No IL 76s were downed, it's all Ukrainian and State Department lies."

orange juche posted:

That's some freedom fries energy right there.

While Stoli and Smiroff aren't Russian connected any more, Russian Standard is owned and produced by a Russian billionaire so gently caress it.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
There's an entire cspam thread you can go stroke out over if it's your thing

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Stultus Maximus posted:

Try "No IL 76s were downed, it's all Ukrainian and State Department lies."


Luv 2 parrot billionaire criminals 4 communism.


loving a, man, how can you be leftist and pro Russia?

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Kazinsal posted:

I wonder what cspam’s thoughts on the Holodomor are.

Not quite as good as the Thunderdome.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Luv 2 parrot billionaire criminals 4 communism.


loving a, man, how can you be leftist and pro Russia?

Because their idea of leftism is just “america bad” and not any actual critical understanding of leftist theory beyond the summaries they get from youtube.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Two things can be true, but Russias leadership is being overtly shittier than ours, at this time, as far as we know.

America: bad
Russia: different bad

I have a heart for everyone, from the school kids who's lives have just been upended, to the poor fuckers going down in a ball of flame cus they wanted to get out of a poor life, and the army was hiring.

I have more pity for the Ukrainians though. I just think about how the latter mirrors a lot of the military experience I have.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Are they parroting the “Putin threw away IL76s and various units to test defenses” thing as well as “every video you see of dead Russians or Russian war crimes is a Ukrainian blue on blue?” like tankie Reddit is?

Bingo!

Defenestrategy posted:

There's two major threads I've seen over there.

1. Armed resistance from the civilian population is bad, because more people will die when the Russian reprisals start continue are broadcast.

2. Sphere of influence security concern BS.

I will say, the first thing is novel as I've never ever heard something to the tune of "citizens of a nation should never hinder a foreign invader"


This is the thing I personally find the hardest to understand, the idea that it is unconscionable for ukrainians to resist because it's a losing battle.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

give us some highlights, i'm not dipping myself into that filth

Last week: Russia will not invade. This is all the Western media manufacturing consent.

This week: Well DUH Russia invaded, it is clearly the most rational option available to them. Western media made them do it.

Last week: US Intel is self-owning with all this chicken little invasion nonsense, even Zelensky thinks Russia won't invade

This week: OMG the US totally played Zelensky with false assurances that Russia wouldn't invade

Last week: Ukraine is just a bunch of Nazis who usurped the rightful ruler, Victor Yanukovych, in 2014 in a Western backed coup.

This week: THE Ukraine is just a bunch of Nazis who usurped the rightful ruler, the CPSU, in 1991 in a Western backed coup. (this one may be a bit, but Poe's law and all that)

And on and on. It's funny to read if you can keep yourself from pressing the button.

Also: the Ukrainian defense is a shambles, the offensive is all going according to plan. See, this translated Soviet doctrine document I found will clear this all up.

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Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kazinsal posted:

I wonder what cspam’s thoughts on the Holodomor are.

I don’t think I want to know.

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