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CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

Nebakenezzer posted:

Ha: The A-100 is being delayed due to sanctions

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44145/western-sanctions-are-driving-delays-to-russias-new-a-100-radar-plane-report

Also I feel this may trigger some people here: the A-50 is from the 1980s. I mean goddamn how old is that thing

The E-2C first flew in like 1971. Still in service.

Of course it got a bunch of upgrades along the way and the E-2D hit IOC in like 2013ish.

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

While I think it's good to be inclusive, I personally like to think of myself as an Airman so I continue to expand NOTAM that way in my mind.

Nebakenezzer posted:

Ha: The A-100 is being delayed due to sanctions

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44145/western-sanctions-are-driving-delays-to-russias-new-a-100-radar-plane-report

Also I feel this may trigger some people here: the A-50 is from the 1980s. I mean goddamn how old is that thing

Wait until you find out when the Su-25 first flew

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

slidebite posted:

Some of those Russians are running over seniors in their armoured vehicles, others are like this poor kid

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1497564474752094213?s=20&t=JeEbK5NyBhaX9vnK61KhTw

That is genuinely sad.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

It's all sad. The crying Russian conscript, the crying Ukrainian father saying goodbye to his daughter, the crying mothers for their sons on both sides.

If the world has any justice left in it, Putin will be getting a free ride to a field outside of town from his own people sometime soon.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Feb 27, 2022

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Nebakenezzer posted:

Also I feel this may trigger some people here: the A-50 is from the 1980s. I mean goddamn how old is that thing

The E-3s are *much older*. They're still using the TF33s, for gently caress's sake.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

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Nebakenezzer posted:

That is genuinely sad.

Yea dude why keep screeming at him what the gently caress is he supposed to do. I'm sure he just wants to go home.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Nebakenezzer posted:

Ha: The A-100 is being delayed due to sanctions

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44145/western-sanctions-are-driving-delays-to-russias-new-a-100-radar-plane-report

Also I feel this may trigger some people here: the A-50 is from the 1980s. I mean goddamn how old is that thing

positively modern compared to the E-3

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Preoptopus posted:

Yea dude why keep screeming at him what the gently caress is he supposed to do. I'm sure he just wants to go home.

I think some middle aged Ukranians venting a little rage against the soldiers of an occupying army by yelling at them is pretty harmless overall and probably makes the Ukranians feel a little better

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Yes, the A-50 Mainstay and the A-100 Premier.

I don't think they've actually built an A-100 yet, just the modified A-50 to roughly A-100 configuration for flight testing.

Nebakenezzer posted:

Ha: The A-100 is being delayed due to sanctions

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44145/western-sanctions-are-driving-delays-to-russias-new-a-100-radar-plane-report

Also I feel this may trigger some people here: the A-50 is from the 1980s. I mean goddamn how old is that thing

:lol:

Not as old as the E-3. The oldest flying E-2Cs in the USN date to around 1990...the first run was built in the 70s but they were replaced.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

positively modern compared to the E-3

Fewer hours, certainly.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Feb 27, 2022

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Previously: everything about the NOTAM system is ridiculously archaic and insufficient.

https://twitter.com/AstroKatie/status/1497716088473333762
Now: almost everything about the NOTAM system is ridiculously archaic and insufficient.

The whining about this from my coworkers has been impressive. loving snowflakes

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I dislike it when acronyms take multiple letters from the same word, so this is an improvement, but the ‘O’ is still problematic.

Xenoborg
Mar 10, 2007

Speaking of old planes, it was mentioned at a staff meeting this week that the B-52's 70th anniversary of first flight is coming up in about a month. Even the youngest B-52's were built in 1962 and will be turning 60.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

Xenoborg posted:

Speaking of old planes, it was mentioned at a staff meeting this week that the B-52's 70th anniversary of first flight is coming up in about a month. Even the youngest B-52's were built in 1962 and will be turning 60.

We're gonna slap new engines in them and they'll fly for another 60.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

Arson Daily posted:

The whining about this from my coworkers has been impressive. loving snowflakes

Holy poo poo, how fragile does someone have to be do take issue with something so innocuous? I'm sorry a minor terminology change made your dick fall off.

Platystemon posted:

I dislike it when acronyms take multiple letters from the same word, so this is an improvement, but the ‘O’ is still problematic.

Notice, Official, To Aviators, Mmmkay?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I have a solution that will piss off everyone:

NOtice To AirwoMen

Flux Wildly
Dec 20, 2004

Welkum tü Zanydu!

NOT All airMen

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
An225 is probably dead as the Russians sieged the Antonov Airfield to the North of Kyiv looking to establish an airhead for their invasion.

Pour one out for the great big bird.

https://twitter.com/canada_osint/status/1497895456583475204

Edit:
The partially complete airframe (~70% built) is in the concrete hangar, seen in the third image below. It would take a hundred million or two to get it airworthy, if it survives the war undamaged.

drunkill fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Feb 27, 2022

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Aren’t there a number of industrial operations that relied on that plane to transport certain equipment that couldn’t be moved by any other means?

They would sure be in a pickle right about now.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

drunkill posted:

An225 is probably dead as the Russians sieged the Antonov Airfield to the North of Kyiv looking to establish an airhead for their invasion.

Pour one out for the great big bird.

https://twitter.com/canada_osint/status/1497895456583475204

Edit:
The partially complete airframe (~70% built) is in the concrete hangar, seen in the third image below. It would take a hundred million or two to get it airworthy, if it survives the war undamaged.


I would suspect that either repairing UR-82060, or finishing the second one, would be a matter of Ukranian national pride once this is over.

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

I dunno I think repairing all of the roads, bridges, railways, power lines, water lines, sewers, homes, schools, commercial buildings, Chernobyl and burying all of their war dead might take precedent over finishing some airplane only the Exxon's or the musks of the world care about.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Well, that's a bummer.

Old content:

https://i.imgur.com/02pCbeU.mp4

Do we know what the story was here?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

slidebite posted:

Do we know what the story was here?

quote:

Dear Race Fans,

WARNING, GRAPHIC CRASH FOOTAGE (And some foul language).

On September 18, 2016, during the Gold final start we experienced an accident involving our F1 racer, ‘Hot Stuff’ and a fellow competitor’s airplane.

We were number four on the starting grid, which was the middle inside position with three aircraft on the front row, one to our right and three behind. Upon running the engine up in anticipation of the start, about 20 seconds before the green flag drop, the engine was not running well enough for flight, as you can hear from the audio, never mind racing. I made the decision to shut the engine down to signal the starters to halt the starting process. The flagman on my row put his hands in an ‘X’ over his head, as our procedures prescribe, and I opened my canopy to make it clear I was out of the race and so everyone could see me. The alternate airplane was signaled to taxi on to the runway to replace my entry. I felt confident the communications had reached the appropriate people and waited for personnel to push me off the runway.

However, much to my surprise, I saw the flagman run out on to the runway waving his hands over his head as if something was wrong. The aircraft to my right started rolling and a few seconds later the number six and eight aircraft flew by me on either side. All I could do at that point was hope the number seven (center) aircraft would clear me on the centerline to my right.

The impact was violent and loud. His left leading edge shaved off the top several inches from my vertical and skimmed the turtle-deck without touching until it impacted my right hand holding up the canopy, at well over sixty miles an hour. The left landing gear hit the top of the gull-wing center-section, blowing a hole in the top skin and impacted the rear face of the front spar so hard that it broke the landing gear clean off his airplane. The propeller sliced three evenly spaced gashes about mid span of my right wing, about a foot apart. The right landing gear sheared the wing off just short of the right wingtip. The impact spun me around nearly 180º, like a teacup ride at warp eight. The other aircraft came to rest several hundred feet in front of me with a folded gear, damaged wing and sheared propeller facing the other way as well. That pilot received no injuries.

Three things immediately came to mind. Make yourself as small as possible to avoid further injury until things stop moving. Once the aircraft came to rest, DON’T MOVE! And since I was not on fire, wait for help to arrive. I knew my hand was busted and was not looking forward to removing my glove. But it was more important to make sure I had not been struck in the head or hurt my neck or back. After assessing my situation I realized I did not have any further injuries and proceeded to shut the switches off and assist with un-strapping myself from the wreckage. Help was there very quickly, including my flagman.

Then I proceeded to ask the condition of the other pilot and how this had happened. The video should speak for itself. My next concern was to let my crew know I was OK. The one thing any spectator looks for in an accident are the correct number of flight suits walking around the wreckage after any crash, I made sure I did. Everything else can be fixed. Reno EMS quickly patched me up with a splint and had me walking back to my pit in no time. They really are good at what they do.

Hot Stuff suffered severe damage. It’ll be several months before we figure out what to do with her. I’m not the slightest bit upset over the accident. I, in fact, consider myself a very lucky man. Another four feet to the left and I would have been minced meat. Literally dodging a bullet. A busted up hand is a small price to pay. I’ll take it. It’ll heal. Though it is difficult to type one-handed.

I’ve said many times before and I’ll say it again, there’s risk in everything we do. But the counterpart to that is reward. I choose to cross the street because the risk of crossing the street is worth the reward of getting to the other side. Same thing with air racing, I’ll be back. Of course there’ll be a review of procedures, how to prevent something like this from happening again and a thorough investigation. I’ve used up another of my nine lives, but why would you have nine unless you plan to use them?… We live, learn and race on.

Fly fast,

Thom Richard

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Thanks for that.

also, RE AN225,

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

I would suspect that either repairing UR-82060, or finishing the second one, would be a matter of Ukranian national pride once this is over.
Assuming we get out of this poo poo-show, you're right

https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1497961514480902148?s=20&t=frWyCrtk1PyaDWhSOr8gvw

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


They had the one flyable and another that was 70% complete they were trying to finish, hopefully between the two there's enough to rebuild.

Groda
Mar 17, 2005

Hair Elf

Charles posted:

Firing up my SU-25 simulator


I've been trying to find what that song is for like 20 years.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye


The upside here is that it is a stretch of an existing airframe, with the Chinese having bought the license for the An-124/225 design, so it ranks as "very replaceable" as far as unique airframes go.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

Groda posted:

I've been trying to find what that song is for like 20 years.

Back when the Electronic Arts logo was an exciting thing to see!

Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.
Today I learned Antonov 12s visit my local airport. I heard a loud turboprop go over so I checked Flightaware, it shows an An-12 belonging to Cavok of Ukraine.

I found video of one landing here last month, it’s a very handsome machine.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wv1QvJ5HeHU

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Neat livery, too. I wonder what it's picking up :thunk:

Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.
Track shows it coming from Texas, likely carrying industrial cargo of some sort, there’s lots of manufacturing around here.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Fornax Disaster posted:

Today I learned Antonov 12s visit my local airport. I heard a loud turboprop go over so I checked Flightaware, it shows an An-12 belonging to Cavok of Ukraine.

I found video of one landing here last month, it’s a very handsome machine.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wv1QvJ5HeHU

One of those flew over my place at FL250 a while back and I could still hear it perfectly well. The noise sounded errantly like the sound effect they used for bomber formations in WW2 movies.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass


Well poo poo. Small potatoes compared to everything else but I was hoping to get eyes on it the next time it was at CLT. The grim silver lining is if they do make it through this and rebuild the new overlook will be finished by the time they are.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

BIG HEADLINE posted:

One of those flew over my place at FL250 a while back and I could still hear it perfectly well. The noise sounded errantly like the sound effect they used for bomber formations in WW2 movies.

Haha. Same thing with me last week. I heard a really unique airplane sound and had to look it up. Super loud for how far it and high was from me.

Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.

Warbird posted:

Well poo poo. Small potatoes compared to everything else but I was hoping to get eyes on it the next time it was at CLT. The grim silver lining is if they do make it through this and rebuild the new overlook will be finished by the time they are.

The An-225 helped a lot of us during the pandemic by bringing us medical supplies. I remember it was in Montreal with a load last year.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/local/montreal/2020/5/2/1_4922002.html

Lake of Methane
Oct 29, 2011

Fornax Disaster posted:

Track shows it coming from Texas, likely carrying industrial cargo of some sort, there’s lots of manufacturing around here.

For about an 18-month period, as set of CAVOK An-12s have been shuttling between San Bernardino, CA and somewhere in Managua, Nicaragua weekly. They use KIAH as an airport of entry.

Wombot
Sep 11, 2001

It's not just the 225, several Antonov 124s have also been lost during the conflict so far. Additionally, if cargo ops can no longer overfly Russia, that changes the balance of an already struggling transport industry.

This dude's got a good thread on it: https://twitter.com/typesfast/status/1497656877731094528?t=VKTveJENYakctOKBq8k5cg&s=19

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I know a couple of Antonov Air's 124s are parked at an airport in Germany but that's only a small part of their fleet that is safe.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

Dr.Smasher posted:

We're gonna slap new engines in them and they'll fly for another 60.

Dale Brown parachute account spotted.

Arson Daily
Aug 11, 2003

So with Russian airlines cut off from Europe and the rest of the world where exactly are they going to get parts for their western aircraft fleets?

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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Arson Daily posted:

So with Russian airlines cut off from Europe and the rest of the world where exactly are they going to get parts for their western aircraft fleets?

China if Putin doesn’t piss off Xi too.

Wombot posted:

It's not just the 225, several Antonov 124s have also been lost during the conflict so far. Additionally, if cargo ops can no longer overfly Russia, that changes the balance of an already struggling transport industry.

This dude's got a good thread on it: https://twitter.com/typesfast/status/1497656877731094528?t=VKTveJENYakctOKBq8k5cg&s=19

If Russia closes air space to everyone closing their air space to Russia isn’t that a major pain in the rear end for a ton of great circle routes?

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