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OgNar posted:NBC article states that Nova Kakhovka is completely in Russian hands but the stream seems pretty chill, People shopping and stuff. Population of 45 thousand, for reference.
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Young Freud posted:There's some unconfirmed reports that 5000 contract soldiers have mutinied or defected and that Putin fired the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, Valery Gerasimov, at least according to an Ukrainian MP. Can't get into details but I've just heard from a personal source I definitely trust on these sort of things given their background who is confident that the mutiny reports are accurate. Admittedly I'm just a stranger on the internet so appreciate no one can trust me sharing anonymous second hand sources but I'm certainly pretty excited by it.
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KitConstantine posted:Russia seems to have launched a bunch of offensives this morning - lots of fighting in Buncha near Kyiv There’s always some random person carrying a bag going about their lives with the absolute x craziest poo poo going on
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Feb 27, 2022 09:06
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gay picnic defence posted:Looks like those guys have scored a bit of weaponry amongst all the poo poo in those trucks. I assume it's similar enough to their own that they'll be able to put it to good use. Yeah, a lot of captured and abandoned vehicles just have caches of Kornets, Konkurs, and other anti-tank weapons sitting in them that if they run out of Javelins and NLAWs, they can use those to cripple Russian armor.
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KitConstantine posted:This is pretty goddamn funny - Ukrainian locals capture a t 90 tank, tie up the driver, and steal it. I think the guy in the middle in the back is the driver, and they're all pretty clearly making fun of him Anyone feel like translating this? Sounds like a good time.
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Feb 27, 2022 09:07
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dominoeffect posted:I don't have a baseline as to what's expected to be lost in urban combat, but this seems like a lot? There are a minimum of 5 vehicles with supplies and accompanying troops, and this isn't the only video from this morning with similar losses. Is their MO to just drive into hostile cities with motorized vehicles and hope for the best? Nah, urban combat is brutal as gently caress. Lots of places where people can conceal weapons and vehicles, as well as plenty of opportunity to observe troop movement and set ambushes. Also air support is less effective. The only way to deal with it without heavy casualties is to level the city before you send the troops in.
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dominoeffect posted:I don't have a baseline as to what's expected to be lost in urban combat, but this seems like a lot? There are a minimum of 5 vehicles with supplies and accompanying troops, and this isn't the only video from this morning with similar losses. Is their MO to just drive into hostile cities with motorized vehicles and hope for the best? The first couple of times it happened I assumed it was a mistake, but it's happened so many times now that I can only assume someone higher up still believes the "greeted as liberators" stuff and thinks that rushing units past the Ukrainian army into the city proper will inspire the citizens to throw off their shackles.
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Feb 27, 2022 09:09
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Franks Happy Place posted:https://twitter.com/OSICnick/status/1497842865480732676?s=20&t=smCzfKYe86zPb2bpLymCSQ anti-tank weapons for everyone! i'd really rather this sort of thing wasn't taking place in an area where people live and work
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:The first couple of times it happened I assumed it was a mistake, but it's happened so many times now that I can only assume someone higher up still believes the "greeted as liberators" stuff and thinks that rushing units past the Ukrainian army into the city proper will inspire the citizens to throw off their shackles. That or they're getting just far enough in to have plausible deniability and immediately surrendering because they don't want to die in this mess.
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gay picnic defence posted:Nah, urban combat is brutal as gently caress. Lots of places where people can conceal weapons and vehicles, as well as plenty of opportunity to observe troop movement and set ambushes. Also air support is less effective. Yikes, war sucks. Speaking of leveling cities: https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497839062132183042
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One thing I just realized is that everyone and their mother likely has a smart phone of some kind and can and probably do take quality video of the Russians rolling through. I have to imagine theres some sort of hot line or email that people are sending this through to get sorted by intelligence folks.
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Feb 27, 2022 09:14
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KillHour posted:Anyone feel like translating this? Sounds like a good time. Lots of glory to ukraines.
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gay picnic defence posted:The only way to deal with it without heavy casualties is to level the city before you send the troops in. This is not the Lesson of Stalingrad. The Lesson of Stalingrad is that turning a city into rubble makes it *more* defensible.
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VorpalBunny posted:Part of me is fascinated being on the front lines of this stuff, but I worry this is desensitizing in some ways. These guys are just so casual about this, it just doesn't seem real. There is a video of a guy holding an NLAW just super casually wandering behind an active battle (including armour) I saw posted yesterday
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Feb 27, 2022 09:15
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Somaen posted:"Russia is bombing and at war with Ukraine" is a reality very hard to wake up in How much Xanax did you take that you just woke up now
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KitConstantine posted:I'm not sure if the buildings are tall enough, but GPS can have a hard time in big cities. Plus even GPS uses street names, and if you get turned around and have a bunch of dudes arguing with each other and you're getting shot at and yoh know that fire could come from any window and Pretty sure it'd be GLONASS rather than GPS. Which may perform even worse in built up areas. Also GPS spoofing is apparently a thing, so maybe GLONASS spoofing is going on too?
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Shibawanko posted:i cant think of many neutral countries in the region for negotiations. switzerland maybe? Traditionally Switzerland and Sweden, but literally anyway would be better than Belarus bar Russia and Ukraine themselves
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Telsa Cola posted:One thing I just realized is that everyone and their mother likely has a smart phone of some kind and can and probably do take quality video of the Russians rolling through. Yeah, it's called the small army of people NATO has watching Twitter and radioing that poo poo in to command.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Pretty sure it'd be GLONASS rather than GPS. Which may perform even worse in built up areas. Yeah you can definitely jam/spoof the sat tracking systems in a local area Dunno if the Ukrainians have that tech though
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KillHour posted:Yeah, it's called the small army of people NATO has watching Twitter and radioing that poo poo in to command. yeah there is, though it's not Nato, it's mostly just ukranians
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Feb 27, 2022 09:17
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KitConstantine posted:This is pretty goddamn funny - Ukrainian locals capture a t 90 tank, tie up the driver, and steal it. I think the guy in the middle in the back is the driver, and they're all pretty clearly making fun of him Are they supposed to be inside of a tank? Doesn't look much like one Somaen posted:"Russia is bombing and at war with Ukraine" is a reality very hard to wake up in you must've been sleeping for quite a while. wild night last wednesday, I assume?
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I'm really pissed at the DSA (of which I'm a member) not only for the lovely statements but also because of their scummy as gently caress misquoting their citations while writing them. https://international.dsausa.org/statements/no-war-with-russia/ quote:While public sentiment in Ukraine remains contested, the interventionist moves by the US and its Western allies in the country, including stationing US troops in Ukraine and training far-right extremist groups with neo-Nazi sympathies such as the Azov Battallion, have worked to further degrade efforts to resolve the conflict. links to its source as https://www.jacobinmag.com/2022/01/cia-neo-nazi-training-ukraine-russia-putin-biden-nato which is speculative and says the US is training Ukrainians and the Azov Battalion is Ukranian neo-nazis so the US is probably training neo-nazis. That's already a leap, but to quote it as if it's a fact and not speculation is absolute poo poo. They seem determined to lose all credibility, both for the terrible take that it's NATO and the USA's fault and for straight up lying about the basic facts. Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Feb 27, 2022 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:anti-tank weapons for everyone! Yeah, however this turns out, there are going to be millions of lives disrupted. Whichever government is left to pick up the pieces, I don't envy them.
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Alctel posted:Yeah you can definitely jam/spoof the sat tracking systems in a local area Off the shelf SDR set to transmit noise on the 1602 and 1246MHz bands should do it. It's stupidly easy to jam radio signals, which is why the FCC will gently caress you six ways to Sunday if they catch you doing it.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Pretty sure it'd be GLONASS rather than GPS. Which may perform even worse in built up areas. Oh poo poo, yeah GLONASS accuracy in the middle of a field is like 8-12 feet rather than sub-inch like GPS. Put in buildings and that'll get hosed up quick Play posted:Are they supposed to be inside of a tank? Doesn't look much like one Pretty sure they took the driver with them and left the tank for the military to handle
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BattleMaster posted:Maybe they're lost because the US is jamming GLONASS I was about to ask if you could fit a jammer on a big loiter drone or even a satellite. E: Yes. https://www.gpsworld.com/jammers-at-dachas-add-to-russias-ability-to-silence-gps/ Rust Martialis fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Feb 27, 2022 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:yeah there is, though it's not Nato, it's mostly just ukranians I would be surprised if there was a western military organization not doing this right now, and Ukraine is definitely getting external SIGINT funneled their way. Rust Martialis posted:I was about to ask if you could fit a jammer on a big loiter drone or even a satellite. Your signal needs to appear more powerful than the real signal to the recipient, so if you're going to do it from far away, it would jam everything in a gigantic radius (yes, you can use directional antennas, but that only gets you so far). If you tried to use a satellite to jam another satellite, that entire side of the planet would notice. KillHour fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Feb 27, 2022 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Pretty sure it'd be GLONASS rather than GPS. Which may perform even worse in built up areas. Militaries have jammers for these networks. There was just recently a post with blown up mobile GPS jammer of Russian military, R-330Zh.
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:I'm really pissed at the DSA (of which I'm a member) not only for the lovely statements but also because of their scummy as gently caress misquoting their citations while writing them.  I’m sorry, but I don’t want 4th page of people posting about DSA and Tulsi Gabbard this morning.
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OK dumb drone question. How effective are the current generation of US strike drones given the Russian air superiority and how difficult are they to operate (as in fly some to border, donate to Ukraine then control from Lviv by a Ukrainian with a US guy zooming in on the flight to give him instructions)? Also is the tech too advanced to consider giving to Ukraine? Is this any differant to the weapons and training they are already getting? I just really want some ordinance dropped on those thermobaric weapons
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https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1497845415684685829 "They will greet us as liberators!"
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KillHour posted:Anyone feel like translating this? Sounds like a good time. They're basically saying they found a t-90 tank that had run out of ammo and supplies so were able to capture the crew without having to do any shooting and he's their trophy they're bringing to the army to turn in. Then they make him say glory to ukraine. It's funny but this is the exact sort of thing you're not supposed to do with POW's.
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Majorian posted:Yeah, however this turns out, there are going to be millions of lives disrupted. Whichever government is left to pick up the pieces, I don't envy them. It's gonna be devastating to Ukraine and the longer it drags on the worse it'll be. There's already been heavy damage to crucial infrastructure, and all economic activity is basically on pause for the duration. The country will need aid,. That's assuming it isn't completely taken over by Russia. That will destroy the future of Ukraine, it's exactly the thing that the 2014 protesters decided could not be permitted. Tom Clancy is Dead posted:I'm really pissed at the DSA (of which I'm a member) not only for the lovely statements but also because of their scummy as gently caress misquoting their citations while writing them. Yeah it's disappointing. In my mind, socialism goes hand in hand with self-determination and personal freedom. Neither of which Ukraine would have under Russia. You can't have real socialism under a dictator. Somaen posted:I'm a baltics born russian I hope you didn't take offense at my  Do you currently live in Russia? I'd be curious to know what, if anything, you are hearing from normal people there.
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Rust Martialis posted:I was about to ask if you could fit a jammer on a big loiter drone or even a satellite. So that’s what the drones are doing!
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KillHour posted:I would be surprised if there was a western military organization not doing this right now, and Ukraine is definitely getting external SIGINT funneled their way. no doubt, but by the time stuff funnels through ukraine social media to russian or english or polish or w/e social media poo poo is like 4-10 hours old. The value of 'there is an afv column here' is getting it to the right people in literally minutes. yeah 100% they're getting a lot of sigint assistance too
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Scapegoat posted:OK dumb drone question. How effective are the current generation of US strike drones given the Russian air superiority and how difficult are they to operate (as in fly some to border, donate to Ukraine then control from Lviv by a Ukrainian with a US guy zooming in on the flight to give him instructions)? Also is the tech too advanced to consider giving to Ukraine? Is this any differant to the weapons and training they are already getting? Ukraine has sizeable fleet of modern NATO drones bought from Turkey, and does manufacture them locally. Bayraktar TB2, of Nagorno-Karabakh Azerbaijan faceroll fame.
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