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skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
https://twitter.com/mangamogurare/status/1497556424611749894?s=21


I don’t care about ranking of kings anymore, real manga came back

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tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
Eiken received crushing criticism in the United States. It has been accused of being "obscene" and "lacking substance". Jason Thompson gave the manga a zero-star rating in his review of the series in his Manga: The Complete Guide, calling it "Actual pornography disguised as romantic comedy pseudo-pornography".[2]

Stig Hogset gave the anime a one-star review on THEM Anime reviews, calling it "one of the most exploitative, demeaning anime titles I have ever seen".[1] He went on say that "Eiken is like an hour-long nightmare of sexual innuendo of the creepy kind... you'll never find a bigger collection of 'wrong' anywhere else."[1]

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

tokin opposition posted:

Eiken received crushing criticism in the United States. It has been accused of being "obscene" and "lacking substance". Jason Thompson gave the manga a zero-star rating in his review of the series in his Manga: The Complete Guide, calling it "Actual pornography disguised as romantic comedy pseudo-pornography".[2]

Stig Hogset gave the anime a one-star review on THEM Anime reviews, calling it "one of the most exploitative, demeaning anime titles I have ever seen".[1] He went on say that "Eiken is like an hour-long nightmare of sexual innuendo of the creepy kind... you'll never find a bigger collection of 'wrong' anywhere else."[1]

It's also a work of historical precedence, because it was the first shonen to break the record for "biggest tits in manga."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHTBvvRCqmk

This video is a rough sit since it's feature-length, but the deep dive into manga & anime production and how it tied directly into Japanese politics is very fascinating.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
@10:15

https://twitter.com/OverhaulVon/status/1497208671910117393?t=9EoEMVK60Oge41o-cRdcBg&s=19

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
i am just continually amazed at americans ability to rationalize, pontificate and dance around larger concepts of power structures and Hegemony

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

BornAPoorBlkChild posted:

i am just continually amazed at americans ability to rationalize, pontificate and dance around larger concepts of power structures and Hegemony

The story doesn't imply that people have an inherently evil nature at all. It's directly aiming at the reactionary tendency to meet violence with violence. The shape of the world was determined by an ancient tyrant that history forgot, who was himself reactively dealing with a rival ancient empire.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
gotta hand congrats over to the Disappearance of Yuki Nagato, quite a way to end a comedy romcom with an arc on dissociative identity disorder and psyche fragmentation.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
https://twitter.com/baalbuddy/status/1497925124988801027?s=20&t=lCbKLToETk3huRh5NMhM7g

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

skipmyseashells posted:

https://twitter.com/mangamogurare/status/1497556424611749894?s=21


I don’t care about ranking of kings anymore, real manga came back

Now that's a name I have not heard in years

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

Dr. Killjoy posted:

gotta hand congrats over to the Disappearance of Yuki Nagato, quite a way to end a comedy romcom with an arc on dissociative identity disorder and psyche fragmentation.

Is it good

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The story doesn't imply that people have an inherently evil nature at all. It's directly aiming at the reactionary tendency to meet violence with violence. The shape of the world was determined by an ancient tyrant that history forgot, who was himself reactively dealing with a rival ancient empire.

yeah i knew something was up when that guy in the video compared Lenin with Hitler in his examples of historical monsters, which honestly surprised me because idiots like him pivot to stalin.

what also amazed me is how he didnt mention Ayn Rand (as they do) but somehow managed to make a case for it? Bravo man, bravo:thumbsup:

BornAPoorBlkChild has issued a correction as of 20:29 on Feb 27, 2022

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

it’s a very cozy watch

turns out what Melancholy really needed was Kyon being like 75% less of an abrasive rear end in a top hat

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

BornAPoorBlkChild posted:

yeah i knew something was up when that guy in the video compared Lenin with Hitler in his examples of historical monsters, which honestly surprised me because idiots like him pivot to stalin.

what also amazed me is how he didnt mention Ayn Rand (as they do) but somehow managed to make a case for it? Bravo man, bravo:thumbsup:

I came back to watch the whole thing and noticed that Season 4 didn't factor in to his analysis at all, which is always a bad call for a story like AoT with so many recontextualizing twists & turns. But the basement reveal had already well established that there's a historicity to the story that goes much deeper than a meditation on the reptilian brain or man's inherent evil nature or whatever. Really it's the moralizing where the whole thing falls flat in its face. The Pure Titans aren't evil or even characters, they're creatures operating on pure instinct. From a moral standpoint they're as innocent as predator animals. The true horror of the world can't be understood until its social context is revealed. He's heading in the right direction with how the story approaches the concept of freedom, but he's not able to recognize how freedom relates to every character at the social level.

Eren seeks freedom because he resents having restrictions placed on him, whereas Armin recognizes that the world has to be negotiated with for everyone to be "free." Otherwise freedom is a contest between powerful individuals to assert their will over others, which is a well established theme in all the historical flashbacks.

This is part of how anti-politics leads people to view all problems as individualistic concerns of psychoanalysis. Like the real problem with history is our reptilian brain, and not the measured and calculated rationale of realpolitik. There are limits to reason that have to be overcome with higher ideals, and you can't simply engage with the world as it is but must also think of what the world should be. The ending of AoT is what happens in a world where only fascists dream of a future.

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 00:29 on Feb 28, 2022

wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang

ranking of kings is good

but

if the events of episode 18 of 24 have a rhyming resemblance to a position held by anyone else….

by god, that’s the irredeemable stain of imperial japan’s music???!!?






is that one poster from the eurasia thread influencing people lol

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Thanks for the gundam watching advice all. :tipshat:

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

looking back on it the ending is very much reminiscent of Starship Troopers (Verhoeven adaptation). there's sooooo many aspects to ymirs backstory that are problematic to say the very least (does Hajime just not know what Stockholm Syndrome means or?...)

regardless i very much enjoyed his take on the trolley problem

BornAPoorBlkChild has issued a correction as of 03:43 on Feb 28, 2022

McKilligan
May 13, 2007

Acey Deezy
Ranking out Kings is so good and all the characters have interesting depth and motivations and the animation is gorgeous and there's intrigue and everything was awesome and gently caress yeah, get 'em Bojji!

... And then it turns out that the inciting incident of the plot was "and it all started with this group of people who were simply irredeemable sadistic scum who backstabbed their allies and mutilated children for little to no reason."

I'm still on board, but that's a surprisingly sharp turn for a series that formerly went to a lot of effort to humanize almost every character.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

McKilligan posted:

Ranking out Kings is so good and all the characters have interesting depth and motivations and the animation is gorgeous and there's intrigue and everything was awesome and gently caress yeah, get 'em Bojji!

... And then it turns out that the inciting incident of the plot was "and it all started with this group of people who were simply irredeemable sadistic scum who backstabbed their allies and mutilated children for little to no reason."

I'm still on board, but that's a surprisingly sharp turn for a series that formerly went to a lot of effort to humanize almost every character.

if they do end up going that route I'm deffo going to sour on the series, but I think it's going to be more complex than that *because* of the better storytelling earlier. Maybe i'll eat poo poo, but my guess is that gods or the demon guy were involved and made them act that way for some reason, and will hopefully get Nietzsche'd to the face

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

BornAPoorBlkChild posted:

looking back on it the ending is very much reminiscent of Starship Troopers (Verhoeven adaptation). there's sooooo many aspects to ymirs backstory that are problematic to say the very least (does Hajime just not know what Stockholm Syndrome means or?...)

regardless i very much enjoyed his take on the trolley problem

He knows what it is, and that's kind of the point. The thing that has to be kept in mind about her is because her tongue was cut out as a thrall she's been robbed of any ability to communicate or express any real agency. After she got the titan powers, from her perspective King Fritz was giving her everything she could've dreamed of. Respect, power, praise, a family. She only gives up on life knowing that he never stopped seeing her as anything more than a tool - but she is still bound in service to their dynasty according to the values she was raised with and had beaten into her. The fact that her self image in the Paths dimension is still that of a child means she was developmentally stunted from the experience of slavery.

It's not exactly out of left field, is what I'm getting at. Those sort of relationships occurred all the time throughout history. I don't think Isayama is unaware of how hosed up the whole master/slave dynamic is.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

tokin opposition posted:

if they do end up going that route I'm deffo going to sour on the series, but I think it's going to be more complex than that *because* of the better storytelling earlier. Maybe i'll eat poo poo, but my guess is that gods or the demon guy were involved and made them act that way for some reason, and will hopefully get Nietzsche'd to the face

I’m hoping for that too but with the track record lately on this kind of stuff I’m expecting the worst

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
https://twitter.com/aalong64/status/1498017091466629120?t=1oWmS8DPkbQqOZqFgIXT1Q&s=19

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



McKilligan posted:

Ranking out Kings is so good and all the characters have interesting depth and motivations and the animation is gorgeous and there's intrigue and everything was awesome and gently caress yeah, get 'em Bojji!

... And then it turns out that the inciting incident of the plot was "and it all started with this group of people who were simply irredeemable sadistic scum who backstabbed their allies and mutilated children for little to no reason."

I'm still on board, but that's a surprisingly sharp turn for a series that formerly went to a lot of effort to humanize almost every character.

Wait it didnt start with the gods loving humanity and a group of people doing whats more convenient for their own interests? Like all the loving kings in the story have shown to do? The kings that exist because of the aforementioned gods?

I think you took the wrong lesson here

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016






I would, no joke, love to try to get a slinky down the top half of those stairs. Although I suspect that any real life equivalent would probably have steps that are too wide.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Reiner's character arc is extremely compelling

Retromancer
Aug 21, 2007

Every time I see Goatse, I think of Maureen. That's the last thing I saw. Before I blacked out. The sight of that man's anus.

pillsburysoldier posted:

Reiner's character arc is extremely compelling

Behold, the man with the most PTSD ever.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

pillsburysoldier posted:

Reiner's character arc is extremely compelling

he has survived so much bullshit and it would be frustrating how much plot armor he has if not for the fact that he wants to die more than anyone

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


i love all the titanjugend equally

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


extremely special shout-out to the guy who lived his dream of shoving food up noble's butts to see if they would mouth-poo poo. when i first read that i thought "this is the manga of the decade, what a shaking examination of the costs of even desperately necessary revolutions," but with some distance i can also see the humor in it

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Retromancer posted:

Behold, the man with the most PTSD ever.

Dad hates him because of racism, mom impressed upon him the pride in being "one of the good ones," constantly passed over by peers, several breaks with reality as he cant deal with all he's seen and done. His niece wants to be him, and his superiors largely ignore him.

But

He can still protect the kids from ending up like him

Mirello
Jan 29, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

pillsburysoldier posted:

Reiner's character arc is extremely compelling

He and Eren combined make the first half of season 4 probably the best part of the whole show. It's a shame that Eren disappears and Reiner is marginalized in favor of the cringevengers. Oh well, enjoyed it while it lasted.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

Kids are cringey, that's just the deal. I get why people don't like the Marley arc because it feels like a distraction, but the endgame doesn't work if the Titan Warriors haven't been fully fleshed out as characters.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Is there a correct order to watching the old gundam shows?
release order, baby. the OG MSG complication movies are the way to go. Zeta rules, ZZ doesn't, 0080 rules, 0083 is weird, CCA rules, The Origin Rules, and Thunderbolt is excellent.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Just watch mobile suit Gundam in it's entirety unless you're like actively dying

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Stairmaster posted:

Just watch mobile suit Gundam in it's entirety unless you're like actively dying
bad news, op

Popy
Feb 19, 2008

just watch gundam 00

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019

Popy posted:

just watch gundam 00

Don’t watch the movie though. It’s not terrible, but it is boring as hell. The first hour and a half is the characters trying to figure out a mystery that the viewer sees the answer to in the first 5 minutes. It really just feels like you are waiting around for the characters to catch up. Also the action scenes are worse than anything in the show.

BONGHITZ posted:

i like big o because its about big robots

Art Deco big robots! I would like more media to adopt an Art Deco aesthetic for the next few years, rather than grungy 80s future. The only ones I can really think of are Big O, Batman TAS, Bioshock 1, and Prey. Edit: And maybe Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence.

Pulcinella has issued a correction as of 16:56 on Mar 3, 2022

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 25 days!)

Pulcinella posted:

Art Deco big robots! I would like more media to adopt an Art Deco aesthetic for the next few years, rather than grungy 80s future. The only ones I can really think of are Big O, Batman TAS, Bioshock 1, and Prey. Edit: And maybe Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence.

Giant Robo: The Day the Earth Stood Still.

It doesn't matter how stupid the plot or the premise is, the animation and design work is still unbeatable.

Retromancer
Aug 21, 2007

Every time I see Goatse, I think of Maureen. That's the last thing I saw. Before I blacked out. The sight of that man's anus.

Tokyo Revengers is surprisingly good.

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net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Retromancer posted:

Tokyo Revengers is surprisingly good.

I started watching that show but got tired of its bullshit after like 20ish episodes.
When Kiryu gets stabbed but keeps fighting in a Yakuza game it's more believable than whatever ended up going on in that show.

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