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MA-Horus posted:Obviously these are to be taken with a grain of salt but those fukken armor losses 
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Milo and POTUS posted:This isn't the first time that atgm have made people think twice about the future of tanks, but it may well be the last Tanks were envisioned as battleships of the land and it looks like they're well on their way to bringing that idea full circle.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The Ruble is currently worth less than the Robux, the currency for the game Roblox. This is pretty meaningless without context. If you really want to derive meaning, what does a Big Mac cost in Russia and how many hours would the average person have to work to buy it?
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Milo and POTUS posted:This isn't the first time that atgm have made people think twice about the future of tanks, but it may well be the last Something that's been reported over and over again is that Russia has not been escorting its armored forces with infantry. Reportedly, most of these armor losses have been inflicted by infantry in buildings and terrain while Russian vehicles stick to the roads with no infantry support, leaving them vulnerable to getting hit like this.
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Grand Fromage posted:If what we're seeing is true it seems like armor is just a deathtrap too. Or do their tanks/APCs particularly suck? Or is the army apparently forgetting they need to bring fuel causing a problem that an army not run by Mr Magoo wouldn't have? I haven't read a lot of modern military stuff in a while but tanks don't seem all that useful if there's a random dude with a Javelin around every corner. And the missiles are a whole lot cheaper. Yeah this is very 'armchair general' but I almost feel like we're getting to the point where the cost of building a tank and supplying it exceeds its usefulness on the battlefield. APCs have always been death traps, they're great for support depending on what type of optics and firepower they can provide but they can also provide a false sense of security, any dismount who understands that knows they need to get far the gently caress away from them as soon as the ramp comes down. I've been having a hearty  every time I see a video of Russian troops walking in a gaggle next to their APCs.
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lightpole posted:This is pretty meaningless without context. If you really want to derive meaning, what does a Big Mac cost in Russia and how many hours would the average person have to work to buy it? Assuming a $3.99 price per Big Mac, 391.49 Rubles for one Big Mac. An average monthly salary in Russia is 51,100 Rubles or $511, so assuming they have a 40 hour work week... Roughly 319.37 Rubles per hour. So a middle class Russian has to work a little over an hour to afford a big Mac, and could afford a total of 130 Big Macs in a month. Compare to USA, where median monthly salary is $2,854. The median American makes $17.83/hr. That translates into one Big Mac every 13.4 minutes, and a total purchasing ability of 715 Big Macs per month. Note that I'm comparing Russia's AVERAGE (skews upward since it includes their super rich) to our MEDIAN (what most people earn). Their median income is likely much lower. If we compared average to average the American does better still, since our average wage is closer to $27/hr.
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Raerlynn posted:That translates into one Big Mac every 13.4 minutes, and a total purchasing ability of 715 Big Macs per month. known in some circles as "breakfast"
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War On the Rocks with Michael Kofman, who's getting a lot of attention on twitter based on his analysis of the russian buildup. Goes on his perspective of the first few days of the war and how the Russians aren't waging the war they are trained to wage. That may change. https://warontherocks.com/2022/02/interpreting-the-first-few-days-of-the-russo-ukrainian-war/
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This is just insane to me. Ukrainian drone taking out a loving SAM, are the Russians just tugging them around for lols, or are they just always moving and this never able to deploy them properly, or don't they have any targeting network up at all? If the BUK is meant to be static why aren't they leapfrogging them to have a functioning umbrella up? I know nothing about air defence, but drat. https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1498320315662979076?t=9NoIhffzIQj6jOwgaSPqZw&s=19
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Caconym posted:This is just insane to me. Ukrainian drone taking out a loving SAM, are the Russians just tugging them around for lols, or are they just always moving and this never able to deploy them properly, or don't they have any targeting network up at all? If the BUK is meant to be static why aren't they leapfrogging them to have a functioning umbrella up? I know nothing about air defence, but drat. This has me confused as well. It seems like a no brainer to us, which means someone, somewhere, has figured this out in Russia. Where are these people? Is the military just not following orders? I expected a certain level of dysfunction from the Russian military. This is beyond what I expected, it is almost like a comedy skit.
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Raerlynn posted:Assuming a $3.99 price per Big Mac, 391.49 Rubles for one Big Mac. Yeah that would be fair, although I guess you could try and use what McDonald's pays their workers to base it off of as well for a real apples to apples? It might be better to price the cost of a Big Mac based off what McDonald's Russia actually charges and not a currency conversion. The Economist uses it to compare currencies directly to each other since the ingredients will generally be locally sourced. Thats a lot of work though. I'm on V-SAT so can't bother googling anything and appreciate this. Also, with the Ruble losing 30% so far this week that means they lost the ability to buy 57 Big Macs.
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Caconym posted:This is just insane to me. Ukrainian drone taking out a loving SAM, are the Russians just tugging them around for lols, or are they just always moving and this never able to deploy them properly, or don't they have any targeting network up at all? If the BUK is meant to be static why aren't they leapfrogging them to have a functioning umbrella up? I know nothing about air defence, but drat. What makes this more curious is that Ukraine's Buks are reportedly their biggest killers against Russian aircraft - the two confirmed IL-76 kills are thought to have been done by Buks.
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Cythereal posted:What makes this more curious is that Ukraine's Buks are reportedly their biggest killers against Russian aircraft - the two confirmed IL-76 kills are thought to have been done by Buks. The Russians misunderstood the use of the Buks, and are trying to get them to the front so they can fight the Ukrainian buks
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Arven posted:I still hate Biden, but JFC this crisis really illustrates why you need actual professionals in government and can't just put your son-in-law in charge.
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lightpole posted:Yeah that would be fair, although I guess you could try and use what McDonald's pays their workers to base it off of as well for a real apples to apples? It might be better to price the cost of a Big Mac based off what McDonald's Russia actually charges and not a currency conversion. The Economist uses it to compare currencies directly to each other since the ingredients will generally be locally sourced. Thats a lot of work though. A better perspective - the 319.37 Rubles today was worth 447.125 Rubles two weeks ago.
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Caconym posted:This is just insane to me. Ukrainian drone taking out a loving SAM, are the Russians just tugging them around for lols, or are they just always moving and this never able to deploy them properly, or don't they have any targeting network up at all? If the BUK is meant to be static why aren't they leapfrogging them to have a functioning umbrella up? I know nothing about air defence, but drat. I think BUKs are more for longer range engagements and need to setup, and these look like they're on the move, which means, they should be protected by assets like Tunguskas, MANPADs, Pantsir, etc. So definitely a failure but not that kind of failure.
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Cugel the Clever posted:The crisis mightn't have even reached the point of invasion because Trump would have attempted to pressure Zelensky into submitting and would have actively sabotaged any attempt to create a united response in Europe. And also attempt to use it as a reason to bail on NATO.
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They’re a nation full of the hardest savages I’ve ever seen  “Go gently caress yourself, Russian warship” “Put sunflower seeds in your pockets, so something grows from your corpse” -savage granny “You’re out of gas? I can tow your tank back to Russia, or you could just surrender like the rest of you are doing” -a passing car to a confused Russian tanker My favorite is the farmer who found an abandoned APC and just stole the loving thing outright with his tractor, no words spoken (on camera, at least) 
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https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force An analyst offers his answers regarding the lack of russian airpower so far in the conflict. Takeaways - Lack of PGMs and training in their use - Poor coordination with A2D units - Lack of training and less flight hours than their NATO counterparts
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vuk83 posted:Tactical level comms doesn't really need to be encrypted. Any Intel gained is very perishable. I’m bringing this post back from a couple pages ago because I was a SIGINT collector and I want any Russians who happen to be reading this to know that this is true and encrypting comms is very annoying so why bother.
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Belarus massing forces in Brest makes me think they're going to try to cut off the Polish border, which could absolutely result in WWIII.
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There’s a video of a farmer who painted a Z on his tractor and straight up jacked an armoured vehicle, it’s pretty great.
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Raerlynn posted:Assuming a $3.99 price per Big Mac, 391.49 Rubles for one Big Mac. I’m always amazed by just how well the Big Mac index works sometimes as a measure of economic comparisons, even if it’s not exactly a end-all measurement.
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RFC2324 posted:The Russians misunderstood the use of the Buks, and are trying to get them to the front so they can fight the Ukrainian buks World's most intense Bu[c]k Buk game.
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Regarding Russian vehicle markings: I saw this explanation offered, and have no idea as to its veracity Z - east forces Z in rectangle - Crimea forces O - units from Belarus direction V - Russian Marines, but also seen on BMD vehicles X - Chechens A - special forces
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Handsome Ralph posted:Oh hey I know that feeling. My MLS team, DC United, revealed their new sponsor last week, a crypto firm. Queue idiots running into the teams subreddit spamming links to buy crypto and NFTs while telling fans that our team was in "good hands" Also I kind of wanna vomit after having to use the term meta verse.
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, which makes no sense since all they are is a front of jersey sponsor, and nothing else . Pretty sure they were all banned after being told to gently caress off because no one in the fanbase gives a fuuuuuck about crypto.
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Madurai posted:Regarding Russian vehicle markings: I saw this explanation offered, and have no idea as to its veracity This whole thing is Eve Online poo poo, the plan is to link up in Kyiv and make the world's costliest Z O R chain
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Madurai posted:Regarding Russian vehicle markings: I saw this explanation offered, and have no idea as to its veracity We can probably add "red square - Belarusian forces" to that list soon. There's footage making the rounds on twitter et al of large columns of Belarusian troops lined up and ready to roll into Ukraine, and they all appear to have red squares painted on their vehicles.
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shame on an IGA posted:This whole thing is Eve Online poo poo, the plan is to link up in Kyiv and make the world's costliest Z O R chain Russians stealing goon tactics again. 
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shame on an IGA posted:This whole thing is Eve Online poo poo, the plan is to link up in Kyiv and make the world's costliest Z O R chain Thinking half their fleet didnt take the right jump-bridge on this op.
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Caconym posted:This is just insane to me. Ukrainian drone taking out a loving SAM, are the Russians just tugging them around for lols, or are they just always moving and this never able to deploy them properly, or don't they have any targeting network up at all? If the BUK is meant to be static why aren't they leapfrogging them to have a functioning umbrella up? I know nothing about air defence, but drat. Weren't the skies in the east full of drones after 2014, for both sides even. Why do they seem to be making so little use of them
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Saint Celestine posted:I think BUKs are more for longer range engagements and need to setup, and these look like they're on the move, which means, they should be protected by assets like Tunguskas, MANPADs, Pantsir, etc. Lack of SHORAD is just more evidence of the logistical and doctrinal clusterfuck the Russians built for themselves. Even conscripts should know the Buk doesn't stop here.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Weren't the skies in the east full of drones after 2014, for both sides even. Why do they seem to be making so little use of them There aren’t that many, generally speaking, on either side. Russia has lagged behind the armed UAV game a lot, unusually far compared to not just the US, but Turkey, Israel, etc. Ukraine has very little money for defense and drones.
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