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I have a whole collection of these damned things, maybe 5% of which have ever seen play. It's a problem.
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Most games I buy I'd like to play, but I also buy quite a bit of stuff that I just want to own as a curiosity with no expectation or desire to play. In fact a significant proportion of my "historical artifact" purchases are things I would outright refuse any opportunity to play.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 02:47 |
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That Old Tree posted:Most games I buy I'd like to play, but I also buy quite a bit of stuff that I just want to own as a curiosity with no expectation or desire to play. In fact a significant proportion of my "historical artifact" purchases are things I would outright refuse any opportunity to play. What "historical artifacts" have you collected?
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That Old Tree posted:Most games I buy I'd like to play, but I also buy quite a bit of stuff that I just want to own as a curiosity with no expectation or desire to play. In fact a significant proportion of my "historical artifact" purchases are things I would outright refuse any opportunity to play. There are definitely some here that fit that mold, although I'd probably give Synnibarr a spin if anyone wanted to. deadEarth is definitely in the "no way I'd play this, no way in hell" pile, though, among others.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 02:54 |
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redleader posted:do y'all ever buy physical rpg rulebooks just to own and read, with no expectations of ever playing that particular game? Yes, but usually I have a vain hope of getting to run/play them one day.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 02:59 |
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I definitely have some books I'd be hard-pressed to play, notably Exalted 2e and d20 Modern. But I bought both of those when they were contemporary as things I did mean to play and did for a little bit, so I never bought them just to read. I just bought a copy of Basic Fantasy RPG POD that I doubt I'll ever run, but I'm buying it to steal stuff from to hack into my own OSR homebrew, so it's STILL not just something to read.
Arivia fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Antivehicular posted:There are definitely some here that fit that mold, although I'd probably give Synnibarr a spin if anyone wanted to. deadEarth is definitely in the "no way I'd play this, no way in hell" pile, though, among others. The starter module for that was just some insane poo poo. Like the quest giver had the party followed by the Best Sniper in the World, who then dug 100 meter trenches round the party and set them on fire, for some reason? Just hilarious. Character creation was entertaining, though.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 03:03 |
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I bought the fantasy flight spellinger book (well long after it's initial run), intending to run it, but realizing in 2016 or so I wasn't going to be getting interest in players for 3.5 players used some of the setting from the book for a 13th age game I reskinned (played right here actually), also taking lore stuff from Deadlands lore and modules as well
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 03:11 |
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i've bought a pretty large percentage of my games as bundles, including possibly my top two games of all time (DITV and Firebrands) this means that my method for rpg purchases is to buy like 50 on some ridiculous sale and then sift through them and play a couple over the course of a few years
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 03:16 |
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Holy poo poo Gareth hanrahan reviewed itquote:Chapter 6: Recovery Mission (Sample Adventure) said:
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 03:19 |
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https://twitter.com/DudesnDiceDavao/status/1498288817400213510?s=20&t=TGiD7RFMxxZiuKSNYUzYuQ Yo, look: someone's actual playing my game. Holy poo poo! This is friggin awesome.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 03:41 |
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I have mostly stopped buying hard copies of anything and have sold off/given away 99% of my board games/RPGs/DVDs/paperbacks (some stuff, like my original Brown Box D&D, I'm never getting rid of) because I do all my gaming online these days and have for the last six years or so. Whoever brought up The Troubleshooters...thank you. My dad was a history professor and an expert on French History of Science in particular so he did a lot of research in Paris at the Bibliotheque Nationale for his books/lectures/etc. Whenever he went over their in the 60s and 70s he would bring back bande dessinee (the Belgo-Franco comic books) for my sister and me...Yoko Tsuno, Tintin, Spirou, Blake and Mortimer, all those kinds...and he had to get the French ones, which is why I read excellent French and can't speak it worth a poo poo. The art and writing style of The Troubleshooters brought back so many memories of my dad, and from what I can tell it is going to be a blast to run. Humbug Scoolbus fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Arivia posted:What "historical artifacts" have you collected? The most worthy of that term is a handful of D&D/AD&D 1e books, thanks to my dad. It's stuff he sent me fairly recently that I haven't spreadsheeted yet, but it's a 1e AD&D core set and some miscellaneous adventure and campaign/setting modules. I've got a box full of Dragon Dice! I've got some old Forgotten Realms stuff, I think the original box and maybe a campaign book of some kind, plus some 3e stuff. I've got like 90% of every non-mini games produced by ICE before the 2000s, but we're getting far into "stuff I started buying and playing when it was new and just kept collecting as it faded into history." Similarly my White Wolf and WEG books are things that I owned and played a lot of back in the day, got rid of for one reason or another as a foolish youngster, and have since been slowly re-collecting just to have. Nobilis 1e and 2e. I might count 3e and Legends of the Wulin too just because of their hosed up history, even if it is fairly recent. I consider TOR 1e a brand new historical artifact, as it was a great and interesting line that is likely doomed to go into the West thanks to being a licensed property with a new edition under a new company. Of course I definitely bought it with the expectation of playing it, which I haven't done nearly enough of. One of the most obscure things I have is a little pamphlet party game called Alien Summit, which has some interesting ideas marred by what appears to be a lack of playtesting and what is definitely a lack of editing. It's from the 2000's and thanks John Wick for his encouragement IIRC. I reviewed it in one or two posts in FATAL & Friends a while ago. I'm sure I'm forgetting something interesting. Everything is still in boxes since moving and I've had boxes full of old stuff I haven't spreadsheeted since before the move. My old ICE poster maps of Middle-Earth are still on the walls at my mother's.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 04:12 |
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I've got sealed boxes of Lawnmower Man RPG miniatures, signed carded Rifts minis, especially nice copies of the Dallas and Bullwinkle & Rocky RPGs, just a bunch of weird stuff.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 05:30 |
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This conversation is reminding me that I own three copies of World Tree, since they started showing up at the used bookstore and I bought them "to give to people who might be interested." I should really just do an F&F for that drat thing already, although iirc there aren't PDFs available, and that's a huge issue.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 05:31 |
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Antivehicular posted:This conversation is reminding me that I own three copies of World Tree, since they started showing up at the used bookstore and I bought them "to give to people who might be interested." Oh yeah, I need to get a copy of that. I think I had a line to the authors or something, need to remember to follow up.
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theironjef posted:I've got sealed boxes of Lawnmower Man RPG miniatures, Whoa whoa whoa... please talk a bit about this one.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 05:36 |
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So Leading Edge Games (Phoenix Command) had a few movie licensed RPGs in the 90s, among which was an extremely weird Lawnmower Man one. As you can probably expect from the Phoenix Command people, the game isn't really a horror thing themed around fear of the future of VR, but like a paramilitary squad battle thing, set a few years after the events of the movie. Despite these facts, they released a pair of boxes of miniatures to go with the game (the game isn't a minis game) which feature a bunch of characters that died or heavily changed in the film, like Marnie, Jobe (and Cyberjobe), that chimp from the beginning, and even a tiny Jobe's lawnmower. And I have both boxes, plus the game.
theironjef fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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theironjef posted:So Leading Edge Games (Phoenix Command) had a few movie licensed RPGs in the 90s, among which was an extremely weird Lawnmower Man one. As you can probably expect from the Phoenix Command people, the game isn't really a horror thing themed around fear of the future of VR, but like a paramilitary squad battle thing, set a few years after the events of the movie. Despite these facts, they released a pair of boxes of miniatures to go with the game (the game isn't a minis game) which feature a bunch of characters that died or heavily changed in the film, like Marnie, Jobe (not Cyberjobe), that chimp from the beginning, and even a tiny Jobe's lawnmower. And I have both boxes, plus the game.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 05:51 |
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I had totally forgotten how big a thing Lawnmower Man was at the time until I listened to that review. I never knew the film was nothing to do with the book either. Seems like a textbook example of something it’s nearly impossible to make an RPG about.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 05:53 |
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Give me all your old FR books you're never gonna use people. I promise they are going to a good home.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 06:01 |
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Don't do it -- dispose of old Forgotten Realms material at designated locations at clinics and pharmacies, where it will be safely recycled without entering the water supply
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 06:21 |
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My friend who recently sold off most of his collection once owned three copies of the Titanic board game, one or two white box and one brown box OD&D's, and all or nearly all of the Pacesetter and Mayfair Chills. He bought the Titanics at the same GenCon auction he bought 3/4 of the HeroQuest sets that went up. Amusingly when we got back to the hotel to check everything out, the most-damaged HQ box was pristine, unpunched inside. That's also the GenCon where I stalemated a game of Munchkin and after I once again deleveled myself before legit winning after 5ish hours, I won by default because everyone else wanted to go to bed. We never played Munchkin again, so everything went to plan. Arivia posted:Give me all your old FR books you're never gonna use people. I promise they are going to a good home. Is there any FR stuff you don't already have at least one copy of?
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 07:24 |
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theironjef posted:I've got sealed boxes of Lawnmower Man RPG miniatures, signed carded Rifts minis, especially nice copies of the Dallas and Bullwinkle & Rocky RPGs, just a bunch of weird stuff. Serious question : can you write that off on your taxes or anything?
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 07:29 |
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FMguru posted:IIRC there were similar licensed property RPG + minis sets for Aliens and Bram Stoker's Dracula (the Gary Oldman/Winona Ryder/Keanu Reeves film) from Leading Edge. LEG's Aliens boardgame was a massive success for the company and convinced them that the path to success was licensing, leading to the Aliens Adventure Game, Bram Stoker's Dracula RPG, and The Lawnmowner Man RPG. They also released further board games, including the Bram Stoker's Dracula Board Game, the Army of Darkness Board Game, and Terminator 2: Year of Darkness. There were plans for a Terminator 2: Judgement Day Board Game, a Terminator 2 RPG, and an Army of Darkness RPG, but these never materialized as the company closed doors circa 1993-1994. The problem with the licenses were that they weren't cheap and they were trying to make multiple games for Bram Stoker's Dracula, Lawnmower Man, Army of Darkness, and Terminator 2 in 1993 alone, as well as minis and pins for these and supplements for Phoenix Command and Living Steel, which must have been absolute murder for a small operation.
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That Old Tree posted:Is there any FR stuff you don't already have at least one copy of? Yes, plenty. If you mean don't have a digital copy of either, then the list is much smaller but there's still some. e: the physical game books are about 3 squares of a kallax bookshelf, single shelved. add about the same amount for novels and other odds and ends. Arivia fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Antivehicular posted:There are definitely some here that fit that mold, although I'd probably give Synnibarr a spin if anyone wanted to. deadEarth is definitely in the "no way I'd play this, no way in hell" pile, though, among others. I think my only "no way in hell" that I own is the Wraeththu RPG I bought to review. I do want to play SenZar some day if I can track down the monster supplement and get that OCR'd as well, because otherwise there's a hell of a lot of legwork missing. theironjef posted:I've got sealed boxes of Lawnmower Man RPG miniatures, ...like, an RPG based off the hilariously terrible movie? PurpleXVI fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Could be from the King short story which has nothing to do with the movie at all and is instead about a man being killed by a Satyr he hired to mow his lawn.
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PurpleXVI posted:I do want to play SenZar some day if I can track down the monster supplement and get that OCR'd as well, because otherwise there's a hell of a lot of legwork missing. I own SenZar and would definitely give it a shot! It seems like that system might actually be playable and fun, even if the fluff is mostly bad and tedious. (As opposed to Synnibarr, which has unplayable rules but some wild fluff -- not good, but instantly inspirational and bizarre. I highly recommend the Synnibarr Complete Adventurer's Guide for absolutely bizarro fluff about all of the many, many races in the setting. Did you know that a particular tribe of cougar-centaurs are the only growers of marijuana in the world? )
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PurpleXVI posted:I think my only "no way in hell" that I own is the Wraeththu RPG I bought to review.
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Antivehicular posted:I own SenZar and would definitely give it a shot! It seems like that system might actually be playable and fun, even if the fluff is mostly bad and tedious. (As opposed to Synnibarr, which has unplayable rules but some wild fluff -- not good, but instantly inspirational and bizarre. I highly recommend the Synnibarr Complete Adventurer's Guide for absolutely bizarro fluff about all of the many, many races in the setting. Did you know that a particular tribe of cougar-centaurs are the only growers of marijuana in the world? ) Yeah, I feel like a lot of SenZar's infamy as one of the "Worst RPGs Ever" was undeserved and was really more the result of a backlash within the RPG community against "Powergamers" and "Munchkins". SenZar is, at its base, rock stupid and highly derivative, but it has a mostly functional game underneath, the problem is that it came out at a time where there was this weird tension between oldschool RPG fans who were convinced that the only true RPG gaming was playing as a shitfarmer who was constantly in danger of dying and a newer influx of players who looked at the progression track of existing RPGs and asked "Why can't we just get cool powers and do cool poo poo from the start?". SenZar was pretty much built on combining superhero comics with traditional fantasy and was thus mechanically designed that starting characters were still pretty powerful and this conceit apparently rubbed a lot of gamers of the time the wrong way?
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 16:18 |
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theironjef posted:I've got sealed boxes of Lawnmower Man RPG miniatures, signed carded Rifts minis, especially nice copies of the Dallas and Bullwinkle & Rocky RPGs, just a bunch of weird stuff. Rocky and Bullw... okay, sure.
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The LEG Aliens game campaign I played in was a lot of fun. The rules are a very very streamlined version of the Phoenix Command system so combats can actually play out in a reasonable enough timeframe and there was some pretty neat world/setting building.
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KingKalamari posted:Yeah, I feel like a lot of SenZar's infamy as one of the "Worst RPGs Ever" was undeserved and was really more the result of a backlash within the RPG community against "Powergamers" and "Munchkins". SenZar is, at its base, rock stupid and highly derivative, but it has a mostly functional game underneath, the problem is that it came out at a time where there was this weird tension between oldschool RPG fans who were convinced that the only true RPG gaming was playing as a shitfarmer who was constantly in danger of dying and a newer influx of players who looked at the progression track of existing RPGs and asked "Why can't we just get cool powers and do cool poo poo from the start?". SenZar was pretty much built on combining superhero comics with traditional fantasy and was thus mechanically designed that starting characters were still pretty powerful and this conceit apparently rubbed a lot of gamers of the time the wrong way? SenZar was also a relatively early, but hardly the first, adopter of the idea of giving players fate/hero/whatever points to spend on guaranteeing rolls, averting failures, etc. to give them a bit more narrative control over what happened rather than letting everything be up to the dice. I seem to remember being pleasantly charmed and surprised by parts of it when I read it, it honestly felt like it had a... positive attitude? Like it definitely wanted players to have fun and control.
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PurpleXVI posted:Like it definitely wanted players to have fun and control.
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SenZar's infamy has mostly to do with the spectacularly incompetent astroturfing campaign they ran on the old rec.games.frp USENET groups to big up their game. Strip that away, and the game comes across as a bunch of kids who spent too much time staring at Iron Maiden album covers trying to make the ULTIMATE TOTALLY BADASS game. Essentially harmless, and kind of adorable. I give it credit for trying to make the characters bigger-than-life with more kickass powers (I vaguely recall the mission statement of the game was to the be tabletop equivalent of playing DOOM in "God Mode"), which was very much the opposite of most fantasy heartbreakers (which were mostly about making things more "realistic", i.e. more annoying and limiting and less fun).
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 17:35 |
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Dawgstar posted:Rocky and Bullw... okay, sure. It's adorable, it's basically a birthday party table game. There's a big spinner, cards for every character that include description and roleplaying advice and occasionally some ability, and these dirt-cheap hand puppets for everyone from the show. PurpleXVI posted:...like, an RPG based off the hilariously terrible movie? Xiahou Dun posted:Serious question : can you write that off on your taxes or anything? Maybe but I don't generally accumulate enough purchases in a year to bother (most of this stuff fans send in). I used to be able to write off a bunch of home office expenses(mics, laptops, a portion of our power bill), but the Trump tax era put a damper on that. theironjef fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Antivehicular posted:This conversation is reminding me that I own three copies of World Tree, since they started showing up at the used bookstore and I bought them "to give to people who might be interested." I don't think there are, no -- A Marriage of Insects and all four volumes of Sythyry's Journal are available digitally, and you can reverse engineer a bunch of the setting and mechanics from those, but it looks like the original sourcebook is hardcopy only.
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theironjef posted:
Oh, I didn't disbelieve you or anything. I did actually see the Lawnmower Man RPG in the wild at a game store in Charleston, South Carolina with a giant crease on the cover and marked down to like three bucks.
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Virtual Reality roleplaying game. Huh, is this what they mean when they say metaverse?
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