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Vortex Street posted:Well if we’re all going to die at least it’s in support of a man with moves like Jagger: drat this guy can do it all. He's not the hero we deserve, but I'll take it.
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Anyone heard anything further re: Russians using Bears and/or Blackjacks to take out arms and supply shipments from nato & western countries?
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Anyone heard anything further re: Russians using Bears and/or Blackjacks to take out arms and supply shipments from nato & western countries? Haven't even heard of it happening at all.
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I was watching India Today for some reason just now, It’s kind of a guilty pleasure, is reporting that Russian artillery hit a Ukrainian military base and killed at least 70 Ukrainian military.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Anyone heard anything further re: Russians using Bears and/or Blackjacks to take out arms and supply shipments from nato & western countries? I was wondering about that too, like all those trucks coming in from Poland. Who's driving those? Would assume that it would be Ukrainians as those would clearly be valid targets for Russia (as much as anything is in their war of aggression) but seems unlikely NATO would be driving them.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I was wondering about that too, like all those trucks coming in from Poland. Who's driving those? Would assume that it would be Ukrainians as those would clearly be valid targets for Russia (as much as anything is in their war of aggression) but seems unlikely NATO would be driving them. Contractors perhaps.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Haven't even heard of it happening at all. Seeing a pretty steady stream of tweets along these lines: https://twitter.com/vpnewsodia/status/1498110929099051008 https://twitter.com/LKNFTFLIP/status/1498068432935399428 I realize that they're probably cruise missile platforms, but couldn't they theoretically be kitted out for carpet bombing supply convoys that are being trucked into Ukraine from the Polish border? If you have even a few miles of backed up traffic all loaded up with ATGMs and ammo, that would be unpleasant. This is just pure speculation on my part.
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Jimmy Smuts posted:Today I learned that T-72s have a horn, and it sounds adorable I wonder if it's wired in, or if that is a very conscientious driver.
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Oh, the aussies have committed. https://www.9news.com.au/national/a...75-6919d369230f
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Wasabi the J posted:Thing about planes is it just takes one stinger. modern strategic bombers fly a little high for stingers....
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That one is doing flybys low and slow to make that loving sound scare people.
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Wasabi the J posted:That one is doing flybys low and slow to make that loving sound scare people. Ok sure, but wouldn't they still be flying way over the ceiling of MANPADs if they were to do a bombing run across the Ukrainain side of the border? edit: https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1498428447097556995
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Wasabi the J posted:Thing about planes is it just takes one stinger. Bears, Backfires, and Blackjacks would be flying above 30,000 feet. Stingers top out around 12,000 and the engagement envelope at that height is very narrow. You'd need to break out the good SAMs for them.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:Ok sure, but wouldn't they still be flying way over the ceiling of MANPADs if they were to do a bombing run across the Ukrainain side of the border? Any AF guys wanna weigh in on the loudness of a B52 or B1 at 15-20k feet? Apparently stingers have about 11.5-12k foot ceiling with five mile range. I've heard that at least during the GWOT B-1's have been used as a sonic shock and awe in some instances, but I am completely ignorant as to any actual capacities.
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Generally you wont hear much, about the same you would from a widebody commercial plane. I lived 20 miles from a B-52 base for 6 years and never heard/noticed them unless I was near the base when one was taking off or landing.
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Russia is pulling diplomats out of a LOT countries right now, even though airspace over most of Europe is strictly verboten for Russian planes as of now, it seems a few are being allowed in to retrieve embassy staff. https://twitter.com/DrBrandonHenry/status/1498522879654346753
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cult_hero posted:I've heard that at least during the GWOT B-1's have been used as a sonic shock and awe in some instances, but I am completely ignorant as to any actual capacities. They did this right over my head at Ghazni and it was the most America gently caress Yeah moment..
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US estimates put Ukrainian military and civilian casualties at 1500, which seems low. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/01/russia-ukraine-war-putin-news/#link-TJFY6DJWHNGZVFDF44DLV5WDGA Then again, if the UKA has avoided concentrating its forces and is mostly conducting hit and run ambushes against MSRs without having to face significant Russian air power maybe it's possible.
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cult_hero posted:modern strategic bombers fly a little high for stingers.... Thats what motivated fighter pilots are for.
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Sentinel posted:Thats what motivated fighter pilots are for. Who just got some used jets coming.
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Wasabi the J posted:That one is doing flybys low and slow to make that loving sound scare people. Or we’re severely underestimating how absurdly loud bears are.
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It's crazy how much the past 24 hours seem to have redefined the geopolitical situation in Europe. Prior to this kicking off, the general consensus was that if Putin did march on Ukraine, there was nothing anybody could really do about it without potentially kicking off a MAD scenario, which was what Putin was clearly counting on. Oh, there would be sanctions, lip service stuff mostly, and a lot of tut tutting in the media, but nothing really substantial. I guess what nobody really thought too hard about until the poo poo hit the fan, was that the capitalist economies of the world now have a shitload of levers to pull via the sanction dogpile, asset seizures, port restrictions etc. that simply didn't apply to the USSR due to the fact that the USSR were effectively economically isolated from the west from the get go. I guess the assumption that this would be done and dusted in 2 days played a major part in that, but I dunno, this really feels like it changes the game a little bit for future sabre rattling attempts by nation states, potentially even China? I guess you still risk cornering a rabid dog, or delivering proof to Putin's sceptics that an imperialist doctrine is really the only way forward - but it's still clearly a much lower risk than having another nation state wade into the conflict directly. I'm really hoping that sanity ultimately prevails and they roll Putin to save face, but I'm now wondering what other rabbits might come out of hats in the event that he does choose to double down? Most of us probably thought this level of solidarity and coordination among the governments of the western hemisphere was unlikely to impossible.
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pmchem posted:https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-iii-already-there-00012340 So... what I'm hearing is that Japan will be completely safe if they intervene directly?
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Russians continuing to deliberately target civilian infrastructure in Kharkiv. This morning they blew up the admin offices with a missile. I'm going to spoiler this because it's really hosed up, although it isn't gory. https://twitter.com/StratcomCentre/status/1498552426261057537 e: Context: https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08dd0c8671829e quote:More on the Kharkiv missile attack from our correspondent Luke Harding: psydude fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-28/putin-bans-russians-from-servicing-foreign-debt-over-sanctions Didn't see this posted, but Putin has banned citizens from depositing money to foreign accounts or making payments in foreign currency, finishing what the partial SWIFT sanctions started. Other than buttcoin there's no real way to get money into or out of Russia at this point, it seems. In fact I don't even know if there's a way to get buttcoin there anymore, since afaik most of the major wallets/exchanges aren't actually Russian? This has real "you can't fire me, I quit" energy.
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Mirconium posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-28/putin-bans-russians-from-servicing-foreign-debt-over-sanctions Watching a bunch of exchanges get fined into extinction for sanctions evasion would be a silver lining to all of this.
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psydude posted:Watching a bunch of exchanges get fined into extinction for sanctions evasion would be a silver lining to all of this. Is it that, or the provision of further evidence that Bitcoin/crypto can't even be used to do the thing was originally conceived to do?
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Don Dongington posted:Is it that, or the provision of further evidence that Bitcoin/crypto can't even be used to do the thing was originally conceived to do? This is completely unrelated to anything I'm just leaving this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VZkiQUzITU
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psydude posted:Watching a bunch of exchanges get fined into extinction for sanctions evasion would be a silver lining to all of this. Would that actually work like that though, since western sanctions don't cover crypto? Russia could try to fine Binance to their heart's content, but I doubt they have a meaningful enforcement mechanism.
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ded posted:Real? No idea. I have a very hard time believing that Russia connected mission critical C2 servers to the public internet and that they don't have fault tolerance or redundancy built in. But then again I also thought an army based around vehicles would bother bringing enough gas with them to drive more than 100km so who the gently caress knows.
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psydude posted:I have a very hard time believing that Russia connected mission critical C2 servers to the public internet and that they don't have fault tolerance or redundancy built in. At one point there were some tactical comms on unencrypted HF that Russian troops were calling out positions on. While thousands of people were listening to it on WebSDR.
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ded posted:Real? No idea. I, uh.... hope they haven't accidentally shut something down on the ISS.
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i'm cackling https://twitter.com/janusrose/status/1498341311589535755
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Speaking of, how do we think things are going for ol' Snowden right about now? I completely forgot that guy was still in Russia.
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psydude posted:Speaking of, how do we think things are going for ol' Snowden right about now? I completely forgot that guy was still in Russia. My money's on "tortured for intel" or "medically induced coma in a benzo withdrawal clinic Jordan Peterson style"
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