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Wife is traveling the entire weekend and it's supposed to rain so I guess I am going to put an absurd amount of time in to Triangle Strategy, hell yeah. Though I am trying to beat Xenoblade Chronicles before Friday. I am 55 hours in and around level 70. Definitely feeling the end coming up. From what I heard from others, I expected the game to take way longer. I have even done all of the side quests I have found because the definitive edition makes it so easy to find components.
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botw's combat is fantastic and you're all nuts. enemy variety is definitely a problem but that's a different issue imho. when playing botw I was regularly vaulting off of horses, sniping enemies in slow-mo, dropping bombs, blowing enemies off cliffs, doing crazy stuff with stasis, tossing axes at enemies' heads, etc. i'm a huge souls fan but on the whole botw combat is probably more dynamic and varied than souls combat (which generally boils down to: wait and watch for an opening -> roll towards enemy -> attack -> repeat)
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hatty posted:What’s so bad about Zelda’s combat? It feels better than 90% of other open world games I’m not sure where the badness is. Only problem is you just fight different colors of the same guy the whole game I think the main complaints surround enemy and weapon diversity. There aren't builds or anything so every encounter boils down to the same moveset you have access to at the very beginning. I guess that's the basic knock on BotW at large: the fact that the game gives you all your tools on the plateau and sets you loose. It can feel like a blessing or a curse depending on if you personally feel that as freeing, empowering and exciting or amorphous, directionless, and dull. I have a hard time imagining Zelda with a full stat-point allocation system, but I could imagine it with like, Kokoriko Village elder giving you a necklace to put a gem in, then giving you an option of basically a str/vit/dex/mag stone to boost that aspect, then a later NPC sending you on a quest to upgrade the whole system. Let you swap them around at the NPC whenever. Basically an expanded version of the orb system.
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Also botw has one unique system that kicks rear end: enemies that turn into ragdolls when stunned. Lots of games turn enemies into ragdolls when they die, but I can't think of another one that turns them into ragdolls when stunned. It allows you to use the terrain in extremely fun and creative ways (which ties into the game's basic design principle - every inch of the map being a surface you can interact with and actually use)
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CharlestheHammer posted:I don’t know it’s fine but it doesn’t do much. I would describe it as fairly generic? Like you say it’s better than most open world but I can’t think of any it’s better than at least not counting the janky ones that don’t work I like it better than Elder Scrolls, GTA, Fallout, and Assassin's Creed. I like how dynamic it can feel if you use all the environmental tools you have
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My 9 year old fired it up for the first time this week, and when she realized she could stun an enemy then steal their weapon off the ground to disarm them ... that was a big "oh ... OHHH" moment for her.
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Show me on the dolly where I said it BotW was a bad game? I actually said it was one of my favorite games ever. What I said, and it should be pretty clear to non-homers, is that there are two paths BotW 2 can go down, one is more or less a DLC of BotW with maybe a new ability, a couple of new weapons, but more or less the same game with the same shortcomings; or maybe they will see where the open world concept has gone, take feedback from the first game and give us something special. So far from the little we've seen and that since we didn't get a Switch revision, the game looks more or less like the first path with some gimmicks. I'm hoping for a sweet reveal soon where we see some really cool new stuff, and the potential for more in depth exploration. Willo567 posted:Shammypants do you even like the Switch or Nintendo games? Your post history makes me think you don't Yea, but I am consistently surprised at how unwilling people are to critique even excellent games here, and I am surprised at how mediocre games get pumped up just because it's on the Switch. BotW, Odyssey, Splatoon, Yoshi's Crafted World, Luigis Mansion 3, Captains Toads Treasure Tracker and Paper Mario are among my favorite games of all time. So one example, we talked about how a number of games have tried hard to add more things to discover, whether it's lore or puzzles or encounters or structures etc. so that exploration is more meaningful. It's a pretty real criticism that 'too much' exploration in BotW yields nothing and that can be improved/adjusted in BotW 2. In response someone posted one of the few quests where climbing high up and examining the landscape resulted in a reward for that exploration. Hopefully the next game has a lot more of those 'bird shaped island' shrine quests. That's not an insult to the franchise. Shammypants fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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Polo-Rican posted:rear end hatty posted:Assass
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Quantum of Phallus posted:is there anything else on switch like Timbleweed Park? I already have Grim Fandango. I love old lucas-arts point and click games. Thanks Sam and Max Save the World
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Shammypants posted:Yea, but I am consistently surprised at how unwilling people are to critique even excellent games here, and I am surprised at how mediocre games get pumped up just because it's on the Switch. BotW, Odyssey, Splatoon, Yoshi's Crafted World, Luigis Mansion 3, Captains Toads Treasure Tracker and Paper Mario are among my favorite games of all time. This thread much more than others seems to fall prey to absolutism. “I like this game, therefore everything in it is perfect,” or even more so “I like Nintendo, therefore all of their decisions and games are perfect”. See the number of people claiming their online service is any good. It’s perfectly fine to admit that good games have flaws people. BotW’s combat is bad, that doesn’t make the game bad.
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Ugh Kirby game combat is never any good and terrible
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I think the narrative device of the blood moon bringing enemies back to life was quite detrimental to the combat. It made most combat feel pointless, story-wise. Best to skip it usually in your quest to destroy Ganon. I don't think the game needed a narrative explanation at all for enemies respawning periodically, you could just assume new ones moved in. If camps stayed destroyed, and I think from a programming standpoint that would be fairly manageable, but enemies still showed up on the road and in the wild, I would have felt more reason to actually fight any of them. Instead I usually just wore Majora's mask.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:is there anything else on switch like Timbleweed Park? I already have Grim Fandango. I love old lucas-arts point and click games. Thanks Unavowed. And Primordia, which got ported literally today.
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The Pirate Captain posted:This thread much more than others seems to fall prey to absolutism. “I like this game, therefore everything in it is perfect,” or even more so “I like Nintendo, therefore all of their decisions and games are perfect”. See the number of people claiming their online service is any good. And on the flip side you have people who always seem to be negative about everything, see the number of people complaining about their online service and still crying about botw even though it's a 5 year old game at this point.
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The Pirate Captain posted:This thread much more than others seems to fall prey to absolutism. “I like this game, therefore everything in it is perfect,” or even more so “I like Nintendo, therefore all of their decisions and games are perfect”. See the number of people claiming their online service is any good. Is anyone saying Nintendo's online is good? At best I think the stance is "adequate for the price, not incredible but not worth frothing at the mouth over" My mouth has limited amounts of froth and I must save it for things that actually matter
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:And on the flip side you have people who always seem to be negative about everything, see the number of people complaining about their online service and still crying about botw even though it's a 5 year old game at this point. It’s relevant because people are comparing it and discussing its upcoming sequel in relation to a recent game. But go ahead and ignore that if you want. Me: BotW is a good game You: U ALWAYS NEGATIV
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Junkie Disease posted:Ugh Kirby game combat is never any good and terrible Please reflect on this post on March 25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtChIGrpOZE
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i only froth for one thing, and that's yeast
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Sudden Javelin posted:Is anyone saying Nintendo's online is good? At best I think the stance is "adequate for the price, not incredible but not worth frothing at the mouth over" Nobody wants to argue this again. Sorry for being negative.
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FFXIV Porn posted:I'm going to play it, and hell, it's going to be good.
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The Pirate Captain posted:This thread much more than others seems to fall prey to absolutism. "I've decided that this thing I don't like is objectively bad and if you disagree then you are being absolutist." Maybe people would be more willing to engage with criticisms of BotW if 90% of them weren't asinine garbage.
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poz my neg thread
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i'm not absolutist, it's just that 90% of what you're complaining about is asinine garbage. lol.
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Bleck posted:"I've decided that this thing I don't like is objectively bad and if you disagree then you are being absolutist." Take a minute and look at how defensive you’re being about a stranger on the internet who doesn’t think your game is perfect. Anything I disagree with = asinine garbage
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Junkie Disease posted:Ugh Kirby game combat is never any good and terrible It sucks AND it blows
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mouthful mode is how i would describe people's posting about nintendo in this thread
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Mister Facetious posted:It sucks AND it blows 
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Thanks for all the recommendations 
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The Pirate Captain posted:It’s relevant because people are comparing it and discussing its upcoming sequel in relation to a recent game. But go ahead and ignore that if you want. Have you not read any switch thread since 2016 cause people have been reiterating the same arguments about botw since then. And when the next open world action game comes out we'll have the same conversations again. It's the same arguments over and over, just talk about literally anything else or at the very least wait until we know anything about botw2 before the same comparisons get brought up again. Botw turn 5 tomorrow, coincidentally.
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The Pirate Captain posted:Take a minute and look at how defensive you’re being about a stranger on the internet who doesn’t think your game is perfect. Nobody cares what you think, is the point,
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Yeah that Kirby's combat is bad because I'll limit my definition of combat to his inhaling ability but not the abilities granted from inhaling. You see his inhaling has been unchanged in a million years and it just sucks items and enemy's in to be held or converted into transformations. In that way Kirby's inhaling is bad combat as the other buttons just make him jump or faster and that's just played out. Sorry Kirby I'll stay a purist and buy your game for the dope rear end soundtrack and avoid the gameplay by just flapping above it while frowning
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Cut this poo poo out or I'm throwing week-long probes minimum. I'll go through reports and poo poo in a few hours when I get home from work.
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Junkie Disease posted:Yeah that Kirby's combat is bad because I'll limit my definition of combat to his inhaling ability but not the abilities granted from inhaling. nintendo mouthful mode activated
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You know what game has good combat? Fuckin DOOM, friends! 
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If that game has a flaw is coop isn't playble as king dedede I wanna see him half a car
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:You know what game has good combat? Rip and tear is a time-honored tradition
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Ragequit posted:Rip and tear is a time-honored tradition I'm fine with doomslayer just being an outfit in Smash, but I do wish he was an actual character, if only for the Kirby transformation. Suck and blow, until it is done.
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