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old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!

EL BROMANCE posted:

Forgot the gaffer tape to affix himself to the ceiling.

You laugh, but really you are jealous.

I know I am! Look at that perfect length of null modem cable.

E: That's not a null modem cable, looks more like a parallel port cable.

old bean factory has a new favorite as of 00:48 on Mar 3, 2022

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I no-poo poo buy something like that. Moving desktops really sucks. Could do it in a couple trips with that.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Casimir Radon posted:

I no-poo poo buy something like that. Moving desktops really sucks. Could do it in a couple trips with that.

Good news!

https://www.geargrip.com/details_ggpro.php?UID=6978608996220198438ba8

The site is also from 1996.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

Casimir Radon posted:

I no-poo poo buy something like that. Moving desktops really sucks. Could do it in a couple trips with that.

Semi-related, I bought a couple of these computer tower carts last year for my desktops. They're width/depth (not height) adjustable, add a little bit of clearance off the ground (for airflow), and make moving things around for cleaning/wire rearraigning super easy. They're relatively cheap plastic & metal, but they're also practically invisible under the cases. All in all really happy with them and would buy them again for any new desktop towers I add to my daily use rotation.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Wizard of the Deep posted:

Semi-related, I bought a couple of these computer tower carts last year for my desktops. They're width/depth (not height) adjustable, add a little bit of clearance off the ground (for airflow), and make moving things around for cleaning/wire rearraigning super easy. They're relatively cheap plastic & metal, but they're also practically invisible under the cases. All in all really happy with them and would buy them again for any new desktop towers I add to my daily use rotation.

I used to use these at work and they make changing out desktops a breeze.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I think I have that exact same carrying strap. And considering I was using it weekly in 2019 I am a little embarrassed by how apparently old it is given the vintage of that computer

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


Odd that it isn't listed (couldn't check yesterday because no computre), seems to be a common unit otherwise (Toytronic Football).

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
You're gonna need longer straps:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Trabant posted:

You're gonna need longer straps:



In 1992 I raytraced this exact scene OF my computer ON my computer

(it was a 386)

(with a 387 :awesome:)

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Data Graham posted:

In 1992 I raytraced this exact scene OF my computer ON my computer

(it was a 386)

(with a 387 :awesome:)

hf 387 raytracing buddy, a 387 coprocessor was the first computer equipment i purchased with my own money

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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My first WWIV handle was "Ray Tracey" :v:


I had head-to-head render races with a friend from class on his 486SX (we would time them independently at home and then tell each other our results the next day), I sometimes beat him



e: rendering a 24-bit TGA file that I couldn't even display on my Trident SVGA card until I dithered it down to a 256-color GIF. For JPEG was a distant future dream

Data Graham has a new favorite as of 04:57 on Mar 4, 2022

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


loving amateurs. I was playing Reader Rabbit in 1992 on my mom’s 386.

coldpudding
May 14, 2009

FORUM GHOST

Trabant posted:

You're gonna need longer straps:



Sorry I could not help myself.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Finally dug out my old 1541, that was stored in a cold chicken house for over a decade, then on my cold veranda for... maybe a decade. Opened it up to do a cursory bug cum mouse piss check and it seemed pretty clean - no rust or anything either!

So now it can sit in my heated spare room for a decade or so!



I'm the stacks of Kalle Anka

or maybe the dusty Atari TV-spel

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

axolotl farmer posted:

I'm the stacks of Kalle Anka

or maybe the dusty Atari TV-spel

The Atari 2600 is remarkable as a really quite popular old computer system in that it literally literally only has one game worth playing these days, and even that one is better on any of the - many - other systems it was released on. The only reason I have one is that it's been in the family since it was new.

e: Hence the dust. It's in full working order, I just can't be arsed to use it.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

coldpudding posted:

Sorry I could not help myself.


Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
What’s the one good game? ET?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

What’s the one good game? ET?

Pitfall 2. And I didn't say it was good.

(It's OK.)

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




It really is unbelievable how the entire 2600 library just DOES NOT hold up anymore. I understand the 2600's importance in history, why its failure spurred on the changes that Nintendo eventually made and all that, but man, that library is hot garbage front to back.

I say this as someone with some nostalgia for it as well. It was the only thing to do when I stayed at my aunts house and they had a decent amount of cartridges for it too, I played a lot of 2600 when the NES was the current console, so the 2600 wasn't horribly old at the time. Still nothing.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
That system just had so many limitations, it’s impressive it was able to do what it did. But there really is nothing from that system that I’d be interested in playing right now. Other than Donkey Kong (we had the white Coleco cartridge). I can still hear the sound effects.

Br3instyrm
Jan 3, 2013
Did anyone of you have an 8-bit Atari computer back in the 80's? Our family had the 130XE and somehow as a kid, I learned how to load games from cassettes. I think it was a rarity in Finland, afterwards I've only met commodore users around here.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Yeah there might be some fun in the technical limitations of something like Adventure or Yar's Revenge but the absolute rock-bottom sound hardware completely ruins any enjoyment to be had.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

The novelty of paddle controls still holds up. Kaboom, Warlords, and a few other games are still fun.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Jim Silly-Balls posted:

It really is unbelievable how the entire 2600 library just DOES NOT hold up anymore. I understand the 2600's importance in history, why its failure spurred on the changes that Nintendo eventually made and all that, but man, that library is hot garbage front to back.

I say this as someone with some nostalgia for it as well. It was the only thing to do when I stayed at my aunts house and they had a decent amount of cartridges for it too, I played a lot of 2600 when the NES was the current console, so the 2600 wasn't horribly old at the time. Still nothing.

I vividly remember being ~8-10 and having a 2600 and barely ever being able to work up the enthusiasm to play any of the games we had because they were just so tedious. It was a way to pass time more than to have fun

When the NES came out though, the entire loving world changed

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Data Graham posted:

I vividly remember being ~8-10 and having a 2600 and barely ever being able to work up the enthusiasm to play any of the games we had because they were just so tedious. It was a way to pass time more than to have fun

When the NES came out though, the entire loving world changed

From my age 6 memories, at Toys R' US, I think my dad was about 2 seconds away from buying us an Atari instead of the NES, because I remember him specifically asking where the Ataris were.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
When I got my 2600, my only previous home video game experience was a Sears-branded pong console. So the 2600 pretty much blew me away.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

coldpudding posted:

Sorry I could not help myself.



Holy moly :chanpop:

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

That system just had so many limitations, it’s impressive it was able to do what it did. But there really is nothing from that system that I’d be interested in playing right now. Other than Donkey Kong (we had the white Coleco cartridge). I can still hear the sound effects.

I spent a few days plinking around in learning how to code for the 2600 and with the way it's architected, the fact that software engineers made it do anything other than play pong clones blows my mind

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




Should have just stuck to the pong clones. I recently picked up a keychain sized atari with a bunch of games on it and Warlords is still great today

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Br3instyrm posted:

Did anyone of you have an 8-bit Atari computer back in the 80's? Our family had the 130XE and somehow as a kid, I learned how to load games from cassettes. I think it was a rarity in Finland, afterwards I've only met commodore users around here.
I was all-in on Atari as a kid (side note: yet I thought the 2600 was basically unsalvageable as a nostalgia piece by the early 1990s) and I still have an XE Game System, an 800XL, and somehow a 130XE still in the original box (I think someone must have given that to me a couple decades ago). I loved those dang computers I tell ya hwat

If the 8-Bit Atari computer line had a dozen developers focusing on it with the same skill and love of Lucasfilm Games it would have been the clear #1 system of the era, I swear.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Atari 2600's version of "Donkey Kong" is not something I want to play as I have other versions available. Too bad it's one few memory cassettes for the system that I have.

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


There's an interesting book called Racing The Beam that is all about the tricks used to get the Atari to go beyond its limits, with some development stories for notable games. Relevant to the discussion, but y'all probably know about it already!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


First of May posted:

There's an interesting book called Racing The Beam that is all about the tricks used to get the Atari to go beyond its limits, with some development stories for notable games. Relevant to the discussion, but y'all probably know about it already!

I haven't heard of this, thanks! I will try to track a copy down.

Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

It really is unbelievable how the entire 2600 library just DOES NOT hold up anymore. I understand the 2600's importance in history, why its failure spurred on the changes that Nintendo eventually made and all that, but man, that library is hot garbage front to back.

I don't fully agree but I wonder if it's partly due to how many of the big games were arcade ports. Once you can emulate arcade games, it doesn't make a lot of sense (in most cases) to go back to what we'd think of now as weak imitations.

Actually I guess I have that issue with a lot of the NES library, too.. (Though the NES at least has a couple of arcade ports that are better than the original, like Super C)

If you do want to play something fun on the 2600, I think Combat still holds up with a pal.. Also the many odd game variations in 2600 Asteroids and 2600 Space Invaders give them some interesting variety to make up for technical shortcomings. Oh also their web presence is kind of crappy, but 2021's Circus Convoy by Audacity Games is neat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHhSbltsqag

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Moonsweeper still holds up surprisingly well.

Manual: https://atariage.com/manual_html_page.php?SoftwareLabelID=313
Play in browser: http://www.virtualatari.org/soft.php?soft=Moonsweeper

FrumpleOrz
Feb 12, 2014

Perhaps you have not been to the *Playground*.
The *Playground* is for Taalo and for Orz, but *Campers* can go.
It more fun than several.
You can go there for too much fun.
Solaris on the 2600 is worth a look, even as just a technical marvel at what they pulled off.

Stampede is always fun too.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019
There are a lot more 2600 games that are still fun if you have someone to compete for high scores with. Meet up with a friend or two and take turns playing Asteroids after a few drinks. And I still play Dragster whenever I visit my mom.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
I’ve sure as hell never heard of this thing before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1SMUbAr50

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Snackmar posted:

I don't fully agree but I wonder if it's partly due to how many of the big games were arcade ports. Once you can emulate arcade games, it doesn't make a lot of sense (in most cases) to go back to what we'd think of now as weak imitations.

You ALMOST got it. All arcade games are objectively really bad, so no sane person wants to play them or ports of them after they've been exposed to good computer games. That's why literally everyone dropped the Atari 2600 immediately when they got a Commodore 64 or MSX or even a Sinclair Spectrum or whatever a few years later, and never looked back. Didn't happen with later systems; a lot of normal people would/do still sometimes dig out their NES or PS2 and play some even though they already had/have Xboxes or PS4s or whatever; the Atwri 2600 players of today are 100% "gamers".

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