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e-dt posted:Gary can grant you a pie, though You can also throw the pie away in front of his face after he gives you it, with or without asking Kim if he is hungry
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Can he give you his colossal beads
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Feb 28, 2022 21:40
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EorayMel posted:You can also throw the pie away in front of his face after he gives you it, with or without asking Kim if he is hungry Even better if you do this after having tried to force feed Kim the sandwich. You don't want my food? Fine
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Feb 28, 2022 21:46
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What were you thinking, taking a wheat free, meat free pie from that sleazy bastard?
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Feb 28, 2022 21:51
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bop bop perano posted:What were you thinking, taking a wheat free, meat free pie from that sleazy bastard? it's free
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Feb 28, 2022 22:10
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The Jamrock Shuffle demands of Harry to loot every bin in sight. What is Gary if not a trash bin?
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Feb 28, 2022 22:17
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EorayMel posted:You can also throw the pie away in front of his face after he gives you it, with or without asking Kim if he is hungry I read that as ‘you can throw the pie in his face’ and I was like drat, I mean Gary deserves it, but after humiliating him like that it seems like a bit much.
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bop bop perano posted:I read that as ‘you can throw the pie in his face’ and I was like drat, I mean Gary deserves it, but after humiliating him like that it seems like a bit much. I think that needs an impossible passive half light and/or hand&eye coordination check to be passed
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bop bop perano posted:I made a tier list of my fav characters A good list because Evrart is at the top. You seem to be missing a certain character who only appears on day 1 and only if you have a very specific build tho....
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Siileng may have had the single greatest change in voice actors from original to Final Cut. Turns out a character of South Asian analogue descent is better played by a South Asian actor who can also do comedy. For that alone, I believe he deserves to be in B tier at the least.
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Epic High Five posted:A good list because Evrart is at the top. You seem to be missing a certain character who only appears on day 1 and only if you have a very specific build tho....  i didn't make the tier list, but i was surprised by how thorough it was, but they did forget this guy, you're right. Caufman posted:Siileng may have had the single greatest change in voice actors from original to Final Cut. Turns out a character of South Asian analogue descent is better played by a South Asian actor who can also do comedy. For that alone, I believe he deserves to be in B tier at the least. i forgot that will menaker from chapo trap house played siileng in the original until i finished the game again recently and saw the credits, but yeah definitely one of the most improved voices.
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On the subject of voices I can't stop comparing Evrart Claire's final cut voice to the DIC Inspector Gadget voice, it is 1:1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzK00wW1G1o&t=97s
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"Just move *the glow* over White Pines, and press the enter *button* on your remote, Harry!"
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It's also missing the communist book club! Those two are great.
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My only complaint is that Hardy is not at least A tier. Maybe I'm just a sucker for guys with union loyalties.
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I forgot which was the last trap I checked for the phasmid. If I just go for a random trap and do the thing, will I know immediately if I had the right one? I just wanna savescum it if I can.
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Organic Lube User posted:I forgot which was the last trap I checked for the phasmid. If I just go for a random trap and do the thing, will I know immediately if I had the right one? I just wanna savescum it if I can. It'll only let you do the thing in the correct trap. No savescumming required (ever, but particularly here)
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Completed the game again today. Either I forgot or I only just found it, but one of the characters quoting a communist marching song which is actually just "If You Tolerate This Then Your Children Will Be Next" by the Manics put a huge smile on my face. Something about the anachronistic references in this game just gets me good.
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Sankara posted:It's also missing the communist book club! Those two are great. "In dark times, should the stars also go out?" A+++++++ got me verkelmpft at 3 AM
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Cpt_Obvious posted:My only complaint is that Hardy is not at least A tier. Maybe I'm just a sucker for guys with union loyalties. He’s kind of a prick though.
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Gorn Myson posted:Completed the game again today. Either I forgot or I only just found it, but one of the characters quoting a communist marching song which is actually just "If You Tolerate This Then Your Children Will Be Next" by the Manics put a huge smile on my face. Something about the anachronistic references in this game just gets me good. And despite it apparently being out of place it actually fits perfectly because 1) That song is actually about people volunteering to fight the fascists in the Spanish Civil War and 2) the song also includes the line "And on the streets tonight an old man plays/With newspaper clippings of his glory days" which works as a metaphor for Dros.
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Gorn Myson posted:Completed the game again today. Either I forgot or I only just found it, but one of the characters quoting a communist marching song which is actually just "If You Tolerate This Then Your Children Will Be Next" by the Manics put a huge smile on my face. Something about the anachronistic references in this game just gets me good. I think the floor graffiti after the shootout is also based on a modern (french) song, unless it's just the same phrase
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AUTHORITY - Honourable One, you have accumulated a substantial amount of honor points on your life path. You are a man most virtuous. AUTHORITY - You are on the fast track to becoming one of the rarest, most revered of all police officers -- an honour cop. AUTHORITY - Yes. Your deeds have spoken for you, Honourable One, but to fully drape one's self in an eternal cloak of honour a ritual must be completed. A "Rite of Honour"... AUTHORITY - You need to bring the thumb of your right hand -- your sword hand -- to your rectum and stick it in there to form the Arch of Honours.
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Bismack Billabongo posted:He’s kind of a prick though. Considering who and what Harry is, that's a point in his favor IMO.
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Bismack Billabongo posted:He’s kind of a prick though. Yea I didn’t really understand the Hardy good guy turn the game does Seemed like an rear end in a top hat throughout who only “helped” when he couldn’t lie anymore. Could be forgetting things though and probably about to replay
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He's a union man who protects his friends and doesn't like talking to cops. What's not to enjoy?
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I mean, Harry and Kim are cops, and Titus’s goal is to keep Klaasje alive, which if you arrest her will absolutely not happen. First he tries to stall you by convincing you to arrest every member of his crew, then he has to lie and dodge to keep at that. He really only starts to be nice to you after the Tribunal.
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the_american_dream posted:Yea I didn’t really understand the Hardy good guy turn the game does He's not a particularly good or bad guy, mostly just a kinda dumb guy, and talking to the cops is not a good guy move.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Saw the amazing AI generated art and not one mention of this dickhead? This is the personality factor that reads Sam Harris
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I think the big problem with moral judgements on characters is that people judge them based on how they treat you, Harry. People love Kim because Kim is very nice to Harry. People dislike Hardy because he is rude to Harry. All of this ignores the fact that HARRY IS A NEW LEVEL OF rear end in a top hat which the game pounds into your head over and over again with every single interaction. Half the cast of the game has a story about Harry threatening suicide in a bar, destroying public property, harassing kids while drunk, everything. Every lovely thing under the sun. Now, you can take Kim as a sort of Judeo-christian angel pushing for Harry's redemption, but remember that in Kim's eyes "good" is defined by moralism, loyalty to the state. Sometimes that means treating civilians with honesty and respect, but that also means handwaving all the atrocities that Joyce and her horrible band of mercenaries have committed. Hardy's moral compass is pinned to "what is good for the union" and thus your opinion of Hardy will be reflected by your opinion of Unions.
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Although Kim is mostly a moralist through convenience rather than belief. It’s not necessarily that he agrees it’s the best system, he just acknowledges that it’s the one in charge and so be it.
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christmas boots posted:Although Kim is mostly a moralist through convenience rather than belief. It’s not necessarily that he agrees it’s the best system, he just acknowledges that it’s the one in charge and so be it. I mean, isn't that what moralism is? The tacit acceptance of the current power structure with all that it entails?
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I think the big problem with moral judgements on characters is that people judge them based on how they treat you, Harry. People love Kim because Kim is very nice to Harry. People dislike Hardy because he is rude to Harry. This is why high physique/half light builds are the only canon interpretation of
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I mean, isn't that what moralism is? The tacit acceptance of the current power structure with all that it entails? I think there’s a difference between moralists like Kim who may or may not like the status quo but don’t challenge it, and moralists like the Sunday Friend
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The real reason Titus is bad is because he is also a cop.
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Vagabong posted:The real reason Titus is bad is because he is also a cop. LOGIC [Trivial - Success] This checks out.
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Vagabong posted:The real reason Titus is bad is because he is also a cop. Boo. Hiss. Boo. Cops exist to protect private property, Titus does the opposite.
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Garte exists to protect the Whirling-In-Rags
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I mean, isn't that what moralism is? The tacit acceptance of the current power structure with all that it entails? Kim is a moralist, but he's an *apolitical* moralist. He seems resigned to the big-picture/status-quo stuff, and wants to just do his best to help the people immediately in front of him. This is (imo) the most potent argument of the moralist against armchair communists, who may have grand ideals but doesn't actually do anything to improve the day-to-day material conditions of their fellow man. The Revolution and its aftermath have left him jaded to the claims of extremists, which given the state of Revachol, seems pretty fair. The Sunday Friend, by contrast, is a *political* moralist, who actively seeks to solidify and expand the power of the moralist state, with all the exploitation and inequality that state supports. The line from the opening of the moralist vision quest is haunting: "Then you haven't lived through real chaos." Kim has, and wants to help people without possibly setting the world on fire.
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