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Vaginaface posted:This kind of thing has been said repeatedly, and among the Belarusian (uh, revolution? Truthers? The white-red-white flag people) there were claims that Russian troops were going to dress up as Ukrainians and attack Belarusians to drag them into the war. Has any of that kind of thing happened, or is this all sensationalism? Not as far as I know, but it's a time honored tradition to do that kind of stuff. Wikipedia posted:On 26 November 1939, an incident was reported near the Soviet village of Mainila, close to the border with Finland. A Soviet border guard post had been shelled by an unknown party resulting, according to Soviet reports, in the deaths of four and injuries of nine border guards. Research conducted by several Finnish and Russian historians later concluded that the shelling was a false flag operation, because there were no artillery units placed there at the time, and it was carried out from the Soviet side of the border by an NKVD unit with the purpose of providing the Soviet Union with a casus belli and a pretext to withdraw from the non-aggression pact. And those false flags with proper propaganda machine can run deep. There are still some loony fucks that believe Poland attacked 3rd Reich due to Germans using the same bs tactic.
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Sashimi posted:I've been keeping myself out of the loop for around the past 24h so I don't go mad from news fatigue, anything big happen in that time? The Ukrainians have counter attacked NW of Kiev and made an advance. They still have an air force and are still attacking Russian columns. The city on the Sea of Azov (Mailkov?) is probably surrounded now. The thread moderator should be removed, but so far no action has been taken. Russian Naval ships have sunk an Estonian owned (flag of convenience) ship near Odessa, but no reported landings as yet. Video by Russian soldiers confirming they have been stuck in Ukraine for 3 days with no food or shelter and are being ordered to sign *backdated* resignation papers before they can go home. The Chief of staff of the 4th Russian army has been killed. That was a General. Kiev has got a supply of food in. An entire Russian tank company (2+ platoons) surrendered and said they hadn't got food for 3 days. Kiev has been hit by Themobararic(sorry spelling) rockets that have destroyed entire apartment buildings. The UN estimates 4 million refugees will flee the country in the next few months. 7000+ Russians have been arrested for protesting the war. Including children who will be taken away from their parents for laying a flower. Several posters were threatened with probates after discussing war crimes. Several more ARE probated after responding to someone else who took a lot longer to get a 24 hour ban. Putin is still a monster. Comstar fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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KitConstantine posted:Confirmation on counterattacks from the ground in Kyiv Honestly I don't think this can change the course of the war (Russia is still winning), but in the long run it will matter so much to keeping Ukrainian nationhood alive that the story of this war is that they managed to throw and land some punches that hurt rather than one of an endless string of hopeless defensive actions. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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StarBegotten posted:The BBC News is reporting on a conversation that happened today between Macron and Putin. Macron reportedly spoke to Zelenksy right after, and negotiations are happening right now in Belarus as per even the Russian government https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1499386689713840128?t=TtndG1VR9mYzyNLPkdoKzA&s=19 Weird how you didn't link anything
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Alchenar posted:Honestly I don't think this is can change the course of the war (Russia is still winning), It isn't really clear right now that they are. They have advanced, and they're on track to capture some southern areas, but the northern advance seems to have stalled, they're taking heavy losses especially for a modern army, and overall the eventual long term result remains in significant doubt. There is a potential future here where Russia absolutely breaks itself on Ukrainian resistance.
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Task & Purpose released their third episodic war update. It's a good recap from a military perspective. Basically they're seeing that the Russians are setting up forward operating bases at the edge of artillery range of the major Ukrainian cities, and expect a continuation of siege tactics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BAZ2bBUzM Kaal fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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KitConstantine posted:Macron reportedly spoke to Zelenksy right after, and negotiations are happening right now in Belarus as per even the Russian government Restore Peace in Donbass? Nowhere else?
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Did the US change its casualty estimate? Pretty sure yesterday they were saying 1500-2000 Russian soldiers KIA. Today it says 6k KIA
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CommieGIR posted:Restore Peace in Donbass? Nowhere else? 
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BigglesSWE posted:In latest HOI4 expansion there’s a literal “send in forged production reports to make Stalin a teeny bit less crazy for awhile” button so yeah, long Russian tradition. This was a plot point in Tom Clancy's (co-written by Harold Coyle) Red Storm Rising. The Soviets in the novel prosecute a dozen supply chiefs and commanders pre-war to shape everyone else up before they ship them off to West Germany. This makes things work much smoother during the invasion. So yes, Tom Clancy would not have written a story of such Russian incompetence as been happening in real life. Though maybe not doing anything about it with the 1 weeks or so planning they DID do might have lulled some people into a false sense of confidence that Putin was never going to invade.
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Ukraine is moving to take back Kherson https://twitter.com/Andy_Scollick/status/1499381706276716549?t=19dyMicwzeLne1zuxirCoA&s=19 So Russians are reportedly mining the buildings. https://twitter.com/vorobyov/status/1499379823180976130?t=FGGTe2Vrxma1AmZJ9wdjYw&s=19 Also the Ukrainians are having to clean up dead bodies of Russian soldiers that are left behind by their own military. I've also seen videos of mass graves, which I will not be posting thank you. https://twitter.com/vorobyov/status/1499324510662807553?t=iyCC1ikACU-p51s_trOW2Q&s=19
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Alchenar posted:Honestly I don't think this can change the course of the war (Russia is still winning), but in the long run it will matter so much to keeping Ukrainian nationhood alive that the story of this war is that they managed to throw and land some punches that hurt rather than one of an endless string of hopeless defensive actions. I think it's wrong to see this only isolated to the military war happening in Ukraine. A big military disaster in Ukraine, even if it doesn't mean a literal rout with fleeing troops, plus the pressure of sanctions and isolation, means there is pressure on Putin's hold on power from all sides, the oligarchs, the military, the people. I suspect he thinks he only needs to win enough to end up in a good position to bargain from, but he grim surprise for him will hopefully be that he is still isolated from the world. Otherwise it's just another press on the snooze button IMO. This only ends properly with Putin ousted from power. He has many ways out if he wants, just pick a window!
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Imagine thinking after the last 20 years happened that winning the conventional ground invasion means you're winning the war lol
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StarBegotten posted:The BBC News is reporting on a conversation that happened today between Macron and Putin. What can you add to a list of demands that includes total capitulation and submission? Do you want to kick Zelensky with a real big boot before you execute him in a gulag? Insist the babushkas unhex your soldiers?
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Kaal posted:Task & Purpose released their third episodic war update. It's a good recap from a military perspective. I guess i should pay attention to this guy, he's wearing combat armor while speaking so obviously he knows what he's talking about
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sean10mm posted:Imagine thinking after the last 20 years happened that winning the conventional ground invasion means you're winning the war lol Especially when the idea of winning looks like this
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steinrokkan posted:Especially when the idea of winning looks like this They're going to hit the US GWOT death toll by April or some poo poo.
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JerikTelorian posted:What can you add to a list of demands that includes total capitulation and submission? Poland, Slovakia, Czechia, Baltics, ... 
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ethanol posted:Did the US change its casualty estimate? Pretty sure yesterday they were saying 1500-2000 Russian soldiers KIA. Today it says 6k KIA I thought I read they were saying 5000 yesterday
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KitConstantine posted:Question for a superpower: should you hire your supply truck drivers for your invasion from Uzbek LinkedIn https://twitter.com/Peter__Leonard/status/1499384800091717634?t=b8Aqd0kZuZOFDa2nPUSrXw&s=19 Fast track to citizenship! Short detour through Ukraine first but that's okay with you right??
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Cimber posted:I guess i should pay attention to this guy, he's wearing combat armor while speaking so obviously he knows what he's talking about He also has really tiny airsoft guns.
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Ola posted:This only ends properly with Putin ousted from power. He has many ways out if he wants, just pick a window! 
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JerikTelorian posted:What can you add to a list of demands that includes total capitulation and submission? First on the list is fuel and spare parts so they can get moving again. Next they will start demanding food and medicine. Finally they will ask for their army back, and maybe some boots.
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I believe this is outside the Nuclear power plant that civilians were blockading from a Russian tank column. It's a lot more people than pictures I saw yesterday. https://twitter.com/EuroMaydan/status/1499391142332301314?s=20&t=5FjcnnvqAu_pQ-WRqRPpbw I will never be as brave as every single one of these people in this photo.
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Dwesa posted:That explains why I never see windows in pictures of his 'office' He's probably paranoid enough that he avoids exterior rooms with windows.
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WaltherFeng posted:Finland applying for Nato in any near future seems very short sighted, but our elected officials like to make panic course corrections when they feel threatened. Jesus Christ. Dugin's book "The Foundations of Geopolitics", lists a whole bunch of foreign policy objectives for Russia. When it came out, it was dismissed as total crack by everyone outside Russia, because it listed insane ideas such as breaking the UK away from the EU and invading Ukraine and Finland. Nevertheless, Putin literally placed it on the mandatory reading list for all his officers. Now Putin has implemented or tried to implement almost everything in the book except invading Finland. And when he has foreign policy essays posted in official news channels, they drat near quote from the book. When you say "there is no threat to Finland", you are being this guy:  Putin has communicated that he actually intends to do to Finland what he did to Ukraine using pretty drat every method he has other than outright saying it. And any "it makes no sense" opposition is idiotic precisely because invading Ukraine didn't make any more sense. The reason to invade Finland is precisely and only that we were once part of the Russian empire, and we are strategically located. There is no other reason, and Putin doesn't need any other reason.
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Dwesa posted:That explains why I never see windows in pictures of his 'office' Hard to get windows installed when you are deep underground in the Ural Mountains
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KitConstantine posted:Ukraine is moving to take back Kherson ...They're already counter-punching in the South? How big is this counteroffensive  ?
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Dwesa posted:That explains why I never see windows in pictures of his 'office' It's quite possible that; 1) He's literally in a bunker without any windows. or 2) He avoids windows because he's paranoid about being assassinated.
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Cimber posted:I guess i should pay attention to this guy, he's wearing combat armor while speaking so obviously he knows what he's talking about I take it back, this guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about and its making me ill. 
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https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1499389862335578115?s=20&t=5FjcnnvqAu_pQ-WRqRPpbw I hope in a few years we get a comedy about Ukrainian farmers who spend the whole war stealing Russian armored vehicles.
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Is Putin being in a bunker just a meme or was someone seriously suggesting he might not be in the Kremlin?
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IKEA uses a lot of wood from Russian sources. I’m guessing those contracts are gone now.
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Morrow posted:It's quite possible that; I mean he has been bumping off rivals himself for years, so while he is definitely paranoid I would call that particular item quite rational Edit: Seph posted:Is Putin being in a bunker just a meme or was someone seriously suggesting he might not be in the Kremlin? https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1499395105056194574?t=TpwDlSDLWAnkHYic_VZRyg&s=19 Like a death sente... I mean conscription for protestors KitConstantine fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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