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Doltos posted:No Yeah, the only thing he changed is they line up faster and go vertical more often. Full stop. Go watch Michael Oher tape from his high school. It’s the exact same offense. Works great when you’re in a position to have more talent than your opponents.
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FizFashizzle posted:Covers the panthers, has lots of inside info, talks to a lot of people on the team I would've thought that if Rhule'd draft a QB at 6, he'd draft a QB like Pickett that could possibly start right away and maybe save his rear end, not one that'd have to sit for a year
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Mar 3, 2022 11:58
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The panthers are completely flailing on offense right now. There’s no predicting it.
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Mar 3, 2022 11:59
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How is that 336 pounds? lmao some humans are just freaks https://twitter.com/gregauman/status/1499384667807657990
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Mar 3, 2022 15:38
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Maybe he's 7'5?
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Mar 3, 2022 15:39
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it's tough to look like you're a regular strong guy like that at 6'7"
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Mar 3, 2022 15:43
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Tiny hands Pickett confirmed https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1499414725922328579
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Mar 3, 2022 17:18
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I like the factoid of Vick being the last good QB to have a span less than 9". https://twitter.com/McShay13/status/1499418660158554112
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Mar 3, 2022 17:20
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I didn't expect Kenny Pickett's NFL comp to be Michael Vick
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Tiny hands Pickett confirmed https://twitter.com/carolinahuddle/status/1499421783530815493?s=21
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Mar 3, 2022 17:34
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Mar 3, 2022 17:58
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https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1499432285174706180?t=U1QpddBaoELH-2zfpKUdtg&s=19 That receiver prospect you convinced yourself was a gem and thought your team should draft in the third or fourth round is a little man with t Rex arms
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Mar 3, 2022 18:18
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That is a loving wing span https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1499404571545939969
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Mar 3, 2022 18:22
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https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1499405744281735168?t=2B_QEtzRG_uwuKSQPIK_uA&s=19 Wasn't London supposed to be 6'5" at the shortest? Edit: he even has smaller hands and a shorter wingspan than Burks. I don't know how some people have London as the top WR.
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Mar 3, 2022 18:25
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Chucktesla posted:https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1499432285174706180?t=U1QpddBaoELH-2zfpKUdtg&s=19 He's a second rounder or higher this year I think. Someone always takes a risk on the all world open field slot guy.
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Woozie66 posted:https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1499405744281735168?t=2B_QEtzRG_uwuKSQPIK_uA&s=19 Polish. Wingspan and hands are nice, but the actual nuance of the position is in your footwork. Burks doesn’t run routes like a big possession receiver, which he probably is at the next level. He’s an elite hands guy, but they kept him in the slot for most of his lineups because that hasn’t translated to actual footwork or release ability yet. He’s just a huge receiver who is an incredible pass catcher but has most of his big separation moments on either coverage busts or subtle pushing off. He could be good, but he’s a lot more raw than people want to admit—like Davante Adams was coming in, which means he could easily end up Josh Doctson too. Wingspan is nice, but if your receiver is having to catch at full extension every play you’re probably losing because it means your guy can’t separate. London was the obvious target on every play he lined up for and had to get his releases clean to get things going. He’s probably similar in athletic ability but just has more consistent footwork to pop things open in either short field or double move/post situations. He essentially was the offense and still got open the whole time with hands that are essentially no worse at catching than Burks. Burks might be a better receiver if you can develop him beyond a slot mismatch, but London can be an immediate starter who probably is at worst a WR2.
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Woozie66 posted:Edit: he even has smaller hands and a shorter wingspan than Burks. I don't know how some people have London as the top WR. If measurements decided how good a player was we'd be in a world of Kevin Whites.
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Woozie66 posted:All fair points! My anxiety over Baker’s future has essentially led me to restack the draft list on receivers several times, but it’s a deeply weird class where I just don’t love anyone. London is ideal for a vertical offense which doesn’t work. Burks is redundant with Jarvis. Olave is smooth but worries me with his odd body catching at times. Wilson is really good but can overstep cuts and lose some suddenness. Williams is a freak who drops things on occasion and essentially has never had to learn route nuances with injury concerns. Metchie is less of a freak with better hands and the same weak route nuances with injury concerns. It wouldn’t shock me if a bunch of these dudes pan out, but there’s no one on par with a JaMarr here.
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I feel like Zion Johnson is going to be a bengal If he makes it to 31. They are telegraphing that guard isn't the position they're focusing on in free agency a bit, and he would definitely be a scheme fit.
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I've been in love with London for a while. Couldn't help being impressed with Burks just measurements. They don't mean everything but it's cool. Side note that there's a ton of buzz that Jarvis is getting cut. Wilson worries me with the Cleveland mocks and him being a touch shorter than advertised. I'm all about the bigs if Baker is supposed to be the guy.
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If the Bengals don't get at least one guard in FA they are taking an unreasonable risk. Brandon Scherff, Laken Tomlinson, and Alex Cappa are all huge upgrades for Cincy. With their cap space signing one of those guys doesn't hamper their ability to pursue a premium Tackle in FA so doing both makes sense. Puts them in a spot where they don't need to reach on a specific o-line spot with their first or second round picks. Can still take a guy like Johnson or Penning if they're there for you.
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Height is overrated in WRs.
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Chucktesla posted:https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1499432285174706180?t=U1QpddBaoELH-2zfpKUdtg&s=19 He's limited, but he's going to be a good slot in the NFL. Kid was incredible in one year at Kentucky with a brand new OC and brand new QB.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:If the Bengals don't get at least one guard in FA they are taking an unreasonable risk. Brandon Scherff, Laken Tomlinson, and Alex Cappa are all huge upgrades for Cincy. With their cap space signing one of those guys doesn't hamper their ability to pursue a premium Tackle in FA so doing both makes sense. Puts them in a spot where they don't need to reach on a specific o-line spot with their first or second round picks. Can still take a guy like Johnson or Penning if they're there for you. yeah personally, i'm biased, but i'd like to draft Wan'Dale Robinson who i've heard a lot of good things about.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Height is overrated in WRs. Normally yes however when your qb throws high like Baker it's a bit higher. I like London as wr1 regardless
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If the browns get tall wide receivers then Baker will just throw the ball even higher, he can not help himself
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https://twitter.com/TheDraftNetwork/status/1499457471584382978?t=0wKYTbbbWKEk4s-BV1cMwA&s=19 Is the little guy with pie plate hands any good
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Height is overrated in WRs. What's funny is a 6'0 guy with really long arms can actually have better range and catch higher balls than a 6'3+ guy. Even more so if he's got hops and the taller receiver doesn't. Most of the best receivers in the NFL right now are around 5'11 to 6'2. Now that's probably just because that's a common height for athletes in the position, but it definitely shows that anything above that really isn't necessary and not worth paying a ton of attention to versus other factors. I care a little more about height when it comes to tight ends, just so you can envision what kind of player you'll use them as, but even then not all that much if they meet the minimum.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:If the Bengals don't get at least one guard in FA they are taking an unreasonable risk. Brandon Scherff, Laken Tomlinson, and Alex Cappa are all huge upgrades for Cincy. With their cap space signing one of those guys doesn't hamper their ability to pursue a premium Tackle in FA so doing both makes sense. Puts them in a spot where they don't need to reach on a specific o-line spot with their first or second round picks. Can still take a guy like Johnson or Penning if they're there for you. The Bengals think paying for guards is dumb. Purely as a coincidence, I'm sure, guard has consistently been probably their biggest positional liability for the past several years. You would think losing a super bowl specifically because of guard play would make them rethink this, but if that's the case they sure aren't letting on.
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Ouch on that vert and hand size. The myth of Treylon Burks being a freak has been overstated. https://twitter.com/MathBomb/status/1499507400713420800
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Eifert Posting posted:The Bengals think paying for guards is dumb. Purely as a coincidence, I'm sure, guard has consistently been probably their biggest positional liability for the past several years. You would think losing a super bowl specifically because of guard play would make them rethink this, but if that's the case they sure aren't letting on. I do think the Bengals should sign a few veteran interior line people but I also don't think a team that made it to the Super Bowl largely from recent drafts and free agency really has to re-think anything about their approach
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He's just shy of 10 inch mitts. What?
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+ hand size similar to dk metcalf and bigger than calvin johnson - springiness leaves a lot to be desired 4th round grade
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Calvin Austin is putting up the numbers people thought tutu atwell would last year
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Height is overrated in WRs. It could usually even be a hinderance. It's really hard to change directions the taller you are. That puts 6'3+ guys on sideline routes with the rare exception of Moss/Megatron being able to run sluggos or complex post/corner routes. Feet size also usually correlates to height and having big floppy clown feet makes it super hard to be as shifty as a smaller guy. Hand size also isn't that great. I have 10" hands and it doesn't exactly allow me to catch things like Kawhi Leonard. You form a triangle when you catch which shortens hand length to a 2.5"-6" pocket depending on your philosophy. You also don't really ever catch the point of impact with the outside of your hands so pinky to thumb is irrelevant. I prefer wingspan measurements over all thing since catch radius is way more important for contested catches and then obviously fast feet/agility for getting the separation in the first place. Not saying long legs prevent that, just that change of direction is generated from distance of foot placement to the ground. Shorter people can move better in shorter spaces because they take less time to generate bursts of direction as opposed to the straight line speed generated from taller athletes. Getting a good mix of agility and speed makes up what you lose on jump balls. Since sideline routes aren't as common as they used to be I see no reason to care if a WR is 5'11-6'1.
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