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What's strange is that ordinarily Shawn McManus is a really good penciler (he did a sprinkling of Moore's Swamp Thing issues, some memorable issues of Sandman, a strong string of horror comics in the 80s and early 90s, some of Tom Strong, a nice chunk of Vertigo stuff) with a clear, crisp style, and John Nyberg is in my mind THE Doom Patrol inker. Coloring aside this issue would still look quite bad although there are panels and sequences where you can tell that this is an example of good artists making weird decisions.
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Codependent Poster posted:Ah, the mid to late 90s. The perfect storm of people still trying to figure out digital coloring while artists tried to draw like the Image guys. You put that more succinctly than I did. Good job. How Wonderful! posted:What's strange is that ordinarily Shawn McManus is a really good penciler (he did a sprinkling of Moore's Swamp Thing issues, some memorable issues of Sandman, a strong string of horror comics in the 80s and early 90s, some of Tom Strong, a nice chunk of Vertigo stuff) with a clear, crisp style, and John Nyberg is in my mind THE Doom Patrol inker. The line work is terrible but it's missing the "90's Style" over abundant cross hatching that partially defines the era - lines everywhere - to where it looks rushed in every way. So, assuming McManus is usually good, the whole thing reeks of "meeting a deadline" But there are honestly better ways to do that and cut corners. Surprised it has fairly decent backgrounds.
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Question: when did Mike Mignola have the catastrophic stroke? I just read his Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom one-shot and it's just so much better than the stuff he did on Hellboy.
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It does not appear that Mike Mignola ever had a stroke.
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Other than the stroke of genius he had in creating the world of Hellboy and the BPRD.
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Jedit posted:Question: when did Mike Mignola have the catastrophic stroke? I just read his Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom one-shot and it's just so much better than the stuff he did on Hellboy. omg right?? and why'd piet mondrian start painting all those squares or whatever 🙄 i miss his trees 😔
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was killing some time reading some mid-90s What If? issues recently and GOOD LORD
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:was killing some time reading some mid-90s What If? issues recently and GOOD LORD Quite a jaw on ol Pete.
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Aunt May's butt chin deserves its own comic book. edit: Raimi really missed out on not casting Bruce Campbell as Aunt May in his Spidey movies.
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With Rosemary Harris as the wrestling announcer?
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:was killing some time reading some mid-90s What If? issues recently and GOOD LORD That's just a few steps away from looking like Don Martin art.
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Some of that's really good. The wonky perspective on Peter's eyes in the bottom left is pretty lethal, but in the middle he has nice, cartoony composition. Very uneven page but I'd love to see more of the artist's work.
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I think it's great, it's just really jarring to see that style applied to Spider-Man(tm) 
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That's kind of a weird issue, and sadly I can't find any of the promotional material from back then to confirm this, because iirc it was promoted as giving a sneak peak of what the style for the upcoming Spider-Man animated series would look like (this issue has a cover date of May, 1994 and the show debuted that November). So I think the very cartoony, elastic style is a deliberate thing-- one that drops out shortly into the story as well, since this is kind of a jam issue with pencils by Kirk Jarvinen, Andrew Wildman, Derek Yaniger, Jim Amash. And, despite ostensibly being a promo for a kids' cartoon, it's a typically bleak What If? story, albeit an above average one scripted by Kurt Busiek. I believe the pages shared here are by Jarvinen, but I could be off. I know he did the cover, and some of the later pages which SLIGHTLY dial back the stylization look to me quite a bit like his Aquaman mini. How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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Some lovely faces from Aliens #10, courtesy of Salvador Larocca. 
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Getting tracing fodder tips from Greg Land, I see.
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I feel like it's supposed to be the xeno's tail going through her head but there's no blood so it looks just enough like a bug trying to go down her throat and at this point I'm too afraid to ask for confirmation
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Some lovely faces from Aliens #10, courtesy of Salvador Larocca. [in the most sarcastic voice imaginable] There's nowhere left for us to gooo~ Oh I'm so scaaaared~
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Gnome de plume posted:I feel like it's supposed to be the xeno's tail going through her head but there's no blood so it looks just enough like a bug trying to go down her throat and at this point I'm too afraid to ask for confirmation There's little legs on the thing, the way they're positioned tells me it's a bug crawling into her mouth. Probably a lovely facehugger alternative because the old design wasn't rapey enough.
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I remember liking his stuff in the 90's, but that's basically unrecognisable. It's frustrating when someone who can actually draw has to go the tracing route.
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Grendels Dad posted:There's little legs on the thing, the way they're positioned tells me it's a bug crawling into her mouth. Probably a lovely facehugger alternative because the old design wasn't rapey enough. It's derived from some burrowing creature on the planet they colonized, and yeah that's probably why. I'm mostly following this series for the bad art which sort of makes me question my life choices.
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It’s just so lifeless. I can’t stand it.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:If you're going to produce a comic with essentially no dialogue it helps to have good art, and the team on Step by Bloody Step is off to a nice start (from #1). Nice, but the perspective of the image mirrored in the water is all wrong.
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u wanna explain how or
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      Spider-Man Unlimited #12 (1996) Pencils: Paris Karounos; Steven Butler; Steve Geiger Inks: Randy Emberlin; Derek Fisher; Paris Karounos; Scott Hanna; Al Milgrom; Steven Butler
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sliami posted:u wanna explain how or It shows objects near the ground further back from the water's edge. Reflected images viewed at an angle start further above the ground the further back you go. You can test this for yourself by holding a mirror with a frame against your monitor at a 90 degree angle - preferably turning it on first - and seeing what text and images are reflected in it. Keep the mirror at the same height and move it directly away from the monitor, and the lower lines of text will disappear while new lines will come into view above.
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Darthemed posted:
"If they scanned my skull, they might realize it's a good six inches too long!"
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Darthemed posted:
You can't fool me, those are stills from that movie Scanners, ain't they?
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I have to ask, what is that story about? Why is everyone talking about skeletons, in a Spider-Man comic no less?
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This must be from that period where somebody found a Spider-Man skeleton in that smokestack Peter threw Ben down when he thought he was dead in ASM 149, and everyone was like "If there's a dead Spidey in the smokestack, then who's Ben?" (Turned out the skeleton was planted by the Jackal or somebody. Have I mentioned the Clone Saga is garbage?)
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Senior Woodchuck posted:This must be from that period where somebody found a Spider-Man skeleton in that smokestack Peter threw Ben down when he thought he was dead in ASM 149, and everyone was like "If there's a dead Spidey in the smokestack, then who's Ben?" (Turned out the skeleton was planted by the Jackal or somebody. Have I mentioned the Clone Saga is garbage?) There is a fun moment in this particular story where the scientists reveal the skeleton's identity by putting their data in a computer and having it show a reconstruction of the body, which obviously ends up looking like Peter Parker. But instead of everyone going "oh, this must mean Peter Parker is Spider-Man and this is a clone of him" like Peter fears they would, what actually happens is "welp, looks like scanning Peter Parker's skull messed something up and the system now thinks the skeleton is Peter Parker who is standing right there, well that was a waste of time then" DMorbid fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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And this is how the skeleton plot element is introduced in that story. Spider-Man Unlimited #12 (1996)
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DMorbid posted:Yep, that's correct. Apparently, nobody had any plans for the skeleton aside from "wouldn't it be crazy if there was a Spidey skeleton in that smokestack?" and they eventually just threw up their hands and went "well it's just another clone Jackal planted in there to mess with Spider-Man" and the plotline was dropped. That's great actually. 
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Darthemed posted:
 Click Edit: SPIDER-MAN: THE FIVEHEAD SAGA
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 Spider-Man Unlimited #13 (1996) Pencils: Joe Bennett Inks: Randy Emberlin; Al Milgrom; Steve Montano Mainly stood out to me because it seems like the penciler was interpreting Luke's tiara as a visor  Blue Beetle #27 (1943) Pencils & inks: Sam Cooper (presumed)   All-Flash #10 (1943) Pencils & inks: E. E. Hibbard  Spider-Man Unlimited #20 (1998) Pencils: Joe Bennett Inks: Joe Pimentel
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