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Freudian slippers posted:If the leaked plan was to be believed, they didn't expect to conquer Kyiv within 15 days, they expected the entire war to be over within 15 days. That's just not happening. Yeah, they wouldn't have dropped paras on top of the capital day 1 if they had believed it would have taken over a week to get land troops down there to back them up.
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Franks Happy Place posted:You feign a long retreat, let the enemy form a salient, and then attack their flanks. It's something von Manstein did to Zhukov at Kharkov. steinrokkan posted:It means allowing the enemy to advance in a controlled fashion by employing defense in depth, then strike at the flanks as the enemy advance is stretched and embattled, destroying it. The term itself was indeed coined by Manstein for his defense in Kharkiv in 1943, but I don't think as a concept it's anything unusual or attributable to one person. Thanks! I tried to read a few articles but it wasn't clicking. This makes a lot of sense now. If this ends up being what happens then the writers for this season of Earth aren't even trying anymore.
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I think 3 days was their estimate? You dont drop unsupported paratroopers on a city of 2 million if you think its going to be a long war Seems to suggest Putin believes his own bullshit Despera fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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steinrokkan posted:It means allowing the enemy to advance in a controlled fashion by employing defense in depth, then strike at the flanks as the enemy advance is stretched and embattled, destroying it. The term itself was indeed coined by Manstein for his defense in Kharkiv in 1943, but I don't think as a concept it's anything unusual or attributable to one person. It would be ironic if the Russian army is tricked into doing the same thing again near Kharkiv.
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Remember how we thought 2016 was the worst year ever? Then 2017 came around and we were nostalgic about the happy times of 2016. Then 2018...etc. I thought 2022 would be the first year to break that cycle. If Putin gets kicked out of power, and perhaps a Kremlin window, 2023 is hopefully it. edit: gently caress, jinxed
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Ola posted:Remember how we thought 2016 was the worst year ever? Then 2017 came around and we were nostalgic about the happy times of 2016. Then 2018...etc. I thought 2022 would be the first year to break that cycle. If Putin gets kicked out of power, and perhaps a Kremlin window, 2023 is hopefully it. I don't even remember why 2016 was meant to be bad? US elections?
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lifetime supply of Pocky posted:we really need to cut off russian gas and oil. gently caress em. rip the rotten foundation down Do you really want the living prices to go up 500% in a week for half of the world?
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lifetime supply of Pocky posted:we really need to cut off russian gas and oil. gently caress em. rip the rotten foundation down
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TearsOfPirates posted:Do you really want the living prices to go up 500% in a week for half of the world? ignorantly, yeah i don’t mind. i say from my armchair
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TearsOfPirates posted:Do you really want the living prices to go up 500% in a week for half of the world? Would suddenly light the fire under the asses of governments to implement the environmental changes we need to not be hosed in 50 years so sure.
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kaaj posted:I don't even remember why 2016 was meant to be bad? US elections? Bernie getting ratfucked broke lots of brains for good
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Ola posted:Remember how we thought 2016 was the worst year ever? Then 2017 came around and we were nostalgic about the happy times of 2016. Then 2018...etc. I thought 2022 would be the first year to break that cycle. If Putin gets kicked out of power, and perhaps a Kremlin window, 2023 is hopefully it. I think every generation has done this, "oh, it was so much better X years ago"
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kaaj posted:I don't even remember why 2016 was meant to be bad? US elections? Plus we lost David Bowie and Carrie Fisher.
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KillHour posted:Would suddenly light the fire under the asses of governments to implement the environmental changes we need to not be hosed in 50 years so sure. More likely get a huge chunk of western governments toppled and replaced with right-wing ones that promise to keep prices down. You are overestimating how much someone living on minimum wage cares about Ukraine and underestimating how much they care about being able to buy shoes for their kids and be able to pay rent.
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Young Freud posted:The editor-in-chief of Russia Today resigned. Guess martial law is one step too far. Margarita Simonyan is the editor-in-chief of RT and is under targeted sanctions. Maria Baronova was an organizer of the Bolotnaya Square protests along with other activist and opposition stuff, then became the editor of the Russian edition. Edit: for accuracy Tom Clancy is Dead fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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the popes toes posted:Farming Simulator people are making handy work of War of Tanks people. I'm looking for a lesson there but I can't find it. Farmers have known their entire lives that the land can gently caress you up, tankers... not so much. 
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kaaj posted:I don't even remember why 2016 was meant to be bad? US elections? Having Donald Trump as your new president is enough to be considered a bad year
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kaaj posted:I don't even remember why 2016 was meant to be bad? US elections? Brexit referendum was 2016 too
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Maria Baronova was an organizer of the Bolotnaya Square protests along with other activist and opposition stuff, she joined RT to work on a specific charity project. Baronova can rot in hell She has been insufferable since she eagerly went to RT for shill bucks, posted how she dreamed of Russia retaking the historical mother city of Kyiv but now, once she sees how it really is and that sanctions can gently caress up her chances of leaving country, she fled.
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Didn't see this mentioned before, but apparently, BBC, Deutsche Welle, Meduza and RFE (Радио Свобода) have now been banned in Russia. They're really speedrunning the entire thing. https://twitter.com/Kira_Yarmysh/status/1499639881160658945
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fatherboxx posted:Baronova can rot in hell Yeah I'm wrong, she did become the editor of the Russian version. Margarita Simonyan is still the overall editor-in-chief.
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steinrokkan posted:Bernie getting ratfucked broke lots of brains for good Or just made them see the truth and realize nothing’s ever going to change, so why loving bother. Hopeful for the future for the first drat time in your life and it’s just taken away. Nothing broke-brained about seeing humanity and the world for the absolute poo poo they are. Though, yeah, this definitely isn’t the thread for that. Everything’s absolutely hosed, but I still hope Ukraine somehow comes out of this on top. I really should know better than to do that at this point.
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a podcast for cats posted:Didn't see this mentioned before, but apparently, BBC, Deutsche Welle, Meduza and RFE (Радио Свобода) have now been banned in Russia. They're really speedrunning the entire thing. Has the supposed Duma meeting for today taken place? So speaking of crazy Russian/Soviet plans, this is ridiculous if true: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvMm4Uh3HPs (The Soviet plan to conquer NATO in 14 days.)
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He lost by 3 loving million votes thats all ill say about that Despera fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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That Task & Purpose channel has a decent take on Russia's actions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BAZ2bBUzM (I didn't see a link to it in the previous four pages). and I'm inclined to agree. I've been following this map put together by some Finns: https://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/The-War-in-Ukraine/091194 What's going to follow then is siege and devastation by artillery. Unless Ukraine surrenders.
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Ola posted:Plus we lost David Bowie and Carrie Fisher. And Leonard Cohen.
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Small White Dragon posted:Has the supposed Duma meeting for today taken place? https://twitter.com/dalperovitch/status/1499657520356409344?s=21
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But it's a special military operation, Vladimir, not a war...
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Now is probably a good idea to get a VPN if you are posting here from Russia. Just to be on the safe side
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TearsOfPirates posted:Do you really want the living prices to go up 500% in a week for half of the world? Where is that figure from? Also, it's also going to be great if a few major countries who can afford it do that.
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Franks Happy Place posted:https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1499643738800508928 I know it won't happen, but one can hope Dwesa fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Video reportedly from a Ukrainian civilian that helped ambush a Russian column. Video looks like the column had stopped to change a tire. Not graphic, just destroyed/damaged equipment, but boy does this guy sound creepy. https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1499613068787023872?t=bfhyXEivQ7Tkb_PIO0v98g&s=19 "~Welcome~"
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Supposedly, for anyone interested, a Nordwind Airlines 777 may have been seized in Mexico City, and a Pobeda (Aeroflot Subsidiary) 737 may have been seized in Istanbul.
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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:Where is that figure from? Also, it's also going to be great if a few major countries who can afford it do that. The figure was a bit of a stretch, but the gas and electricity where i currently live have already gone so much up (up 100% for each) that I wouldn't be surprised to go up to soaring heights. Also no, no major nation with a brain can afford it. Unless you really want to have massive riots and right wing rise in half of EU.
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Between all the Buks the drones have been blowing up, and all the Pantsirs, Tunguskas, and Geckos that have been abandonded and captured/destroyed, I wonder how much good self propelled AA the Russians actually have left to protect the trucks and Grads from the remaining Ukrainian air force?
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Interesting thread on the assassination attempts on Zelensky. https://twitter.com/MarkGaleotti/status/1499660679195865091?t=2n2YEAywcECYClKrcAVw2Q&s=19 https://twitter.com/MarkGaleotti/status/1499661996681273345?t=9tLRcHM8kKpsvmNa9bOnXA&s=19 https://twitter.com/MarkGaleotti/status/1499662705959096322?t=8he9ro04YVh8cps8lQNvXw&s=19 Good ol' fashioned racism might be helping svae Zelensky's rear end - FSB might not mind leaking if the folks getting killed because of the leaks are "just chechens" or nazi mercs.
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True 4D chess play right there: invade Ukraine, get sanctioned, sanction back with a massive increases in price of fuel/gas and by doing that fuel the rise of right-wing governments in Europe. Who will dismantle EU and NATO from the inside.
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