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I still say the Dyson rings would have been a more obvious starting place than the dead planet. 
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Super Deuce posted:Anybody else remember "Computer, bees." Was that from a Trek thread like 12 years ago or something? This feels like it’s something Lower Decks would explore in terms of horrifying/awesome implications of. I would have lost my poo poo if Seven just summoned a swarm of holographic bees on the pirates.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Watched the first episode of the new season of Picard and... it's a mixed bag. A lot of the dialogue just felt like hamfisted exposition and catch-up directed square at the audience rather than natural dialogue, and some of it contradicted itself like Stargazer is a brand-new ship, first of its kind with the new Borg-developed enhancements... OH NO, now suddenly ALL the ships somehow have these enhancements too and the Queen is taking over them all! You'd think Starfleet would have developed network security since dealing with the Borg too but, oh well, all the ships must be in danger for Maximum Drama!. It was a little handwavey, but even the best star trek has always been a bit handwavey with how stuff works if it is getting in the way of the story.
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Was I high or was that episode not bad? 1. Dealt with themes of star trek and no more 'but what if Federation actually bad!' bullshit we've had for the last god knows how long 2. Actually focuses on picard as a character and a long-standing theme with him on the run of TNG 3. The uniforms didn't suck 4. The stargazer bridge was cool 5. An actual conversation in a conference room! It's like... they're actually trying? Can this be possible?
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The_Doctor posted:I still say the Dyson rings would have been a more obvious starting place than the dead planet. Agreed, and I really wish we'd gotten a better look at them. I quite liked what I saw, especially that they were irregular and not perfect rings.
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I've been thinking about the whole thing about why the planet over the rings The rings are GARGANTUAN megastructures, how would you know where to look? If the planet has one or two detectable surviving structures, that's at least a focal point to begin your search and/or get Husnocked by Kevin Uxbridge
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While the current thread title is perfect, I'd dare say "Star Trek Megathread: Husnocked by Kevin Uxbridge would be a suitable alternative.
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G-III posted:Was I high or was that episode not bad? I could have done without the stairs all over the bridge. It looked pretty but the stairs weren't my favorite. Made me immediately think of the DS9 point where they mention the ops design how the commander looks down on the crew. Although I don't really care what ships look like at all as long as there is a reasonable thought behind the choice. So yea the bridge is whatever. But yea, it wasn't bad. It wasn't like, awesome or anything and it's just one episode so it's hard to judge good or bad yet because we don't super know what is going to happen with what they set up. Not bad is actually super high praise for where the show was before.
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Super Deuce posted:Anybody else remember "Computer, bees." Was that from a Trek thread like 12 years ago or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RuLhwVtrUY
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Me for the first 3/4 of the Picard premiere: I mean, this is okay I guess but I don't know what everyone's on about. Me for the last 1/4 of the Picard premiere: Where's the de-aging and the borg and the... poo poo, I accidentally clicked on season 1 episode 1, didn't I? Anyway, season 2 off to a really solid start, once I figured that out. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Of course the 10-C species communicate by shooting emotion dust at one another. OF COURSE THEY DO. Michael's gonna cry her way to victory in the finale.
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The Bloop posted:If the planet has one or two detectable surviving structures, that's at least a focal point to begin your search and/or get Husnocked by Kevin Uxbridge Are you a FoD?
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MikeJF posted:Doug Drexler Why does he have my porn watching shirt on
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The 10-C are interesting. For example, why is a race whose planet was destroyed in a natural catastrophe oblivious to the harm they're causing with the DMA?
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MikeJF posted:Doug Drexler
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xerxus posted:If you want to sub for Picard, there's a promo right now. And if you want to dom for Picard, txt me
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Typical Pubbie posted:The 10-C are interesting. For example, why is a race whose planet was destroyed in a natural catastrophe oblivious to the harm they're causing with the DMA? That's the most relatable thing about them.
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MikeJF posted:Doug Drexler STARG
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Are you a FoD? Foreign object damage Furniture on demand Female orgasmic disorder Friend of Darmok?
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feedmyleg posted:Me for the first 3/4 of the Picard premiere: I mean, this is okay I guess but I don't know what everyone's on about. If you're watching on the Amazon Prime website like I am, the drop down to get to Season 2 is frustratingly far away from the episodes. It took me longer than it should've to find it.
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I maintain that the Disco writers room consists of aliens who do not understand linear time or time pressure beyond knowing that they are often a part hu-man stories.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’ve never been all that critical of Burnham as a character (and tbh I feel like 99% of the criticism directed at her online trends toward thinly veiled racism and misogyny, especially the complaints about her emotions), but at this point I just don’t think she’s interesting enough to anchor this show as the captain. I was hoping they’d make some subtle changes to her characterization between seasons to make her more of a stereotypical Trek leader, but it’s just been more of the same. I read your subtext line in Burnham's dire whispers voice. The lower and quieter the more intense and important, weaponized sincerity. It was at self-parody level with the general in last episode, she had her lowest deepest whisper, but still wasn't winning the general over, so she turned the whisper dial to 11 and found an even quieter more powerful whisper level. At this point, I like it. Kirk's got his unusual cadence, Janeway's got her prowling-panther voice to bust out in deadly situations, Sisko has his shakespeare orator thing for big speeches, and Burnham channels her immense authority through the deescalative power of breathy speech.
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feedmyleg posted:Me for the first 3/4 of the Picard premiere: I mean, this is okay I guess but I don't know what everyone's on about. Haha dude I erased a post where I basically had the same experience, it auto-played after Disco episode and I assumed it would be season 2, thought it was just going to be a me thing, glad to see someone else made the same mistake. Initially I was impressed with how much of a retcon they were committing too, almost shot-for-shot as I remembered it but with new flashback elements hinting towards changes? Then he starts the news interview and it's exactly the same and I finally thought to check. I was a little disappointed, I would love to see a brazen reshoot of an existing season to just literally change the entire plot of it all, just a straight lose at rock-paper-scissors and then be like "okay best 2 out of 3"
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nine-gear crow posted:This feels like it’s something Lower Decks would explore in terms of horrifying/awesome implications of. I would have lost my poo poo if Seven just summoned a swarm of holographic bees on the pirates. Install holo emitters in every corridor to materialize turrets to shoot people with high velocity hard light rounds in case of invasion
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:That's the most relatable thing about them. Maybe they have to use the DMA to get energy because of the burn?
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Khanstant posted:Haha dude I erased a post where I basically had the same experience, it auto-played after Disco episode and I assumed it would be season 2, thought it was just going to be a me thing, glad to see someone else made the same mistake. Initially I was impressed with how much of a retcon they were committing too, almost shot-for-shot as I remembered it but with new flashback elements hinting towards changes? Then he starts the news interview and it's exactly the same and I finally thought to check. I was a little disappointed, I would love to see a brazen reshoot of an existing season to just literally change the entire plot of it all, just a straight lose at rock-paper-scissors and then be like "okay best 2 out of 3" I skipped season 1 so to me it was all new, but I'd recalled that folks had said both seasons started with Picard on his vineyard so I never questioned it. I did have a couple moments of "for what is apparently a soft-reboot, they're sure going on and on about synths a lot" and "people seemed pretty excited about the new ships and uniforms, I guess that's all gonna be packed into the climax...?" and such. So in my case it might just be that I'm quite dumb.
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MikeJF posted:The hologram fighting on La Sirena does beg the question, as always, why fighting ever happens in a holoemitter-equipped area when they can just use the holoemitters to whip away their weapons and instantly project restraints, but whatev, it's the same question as why they don't use transporters to help fight or Disco's programmable matter walls don't crush bad guys. This at least is just classic Star Trek "why not beam a torpedo onto the bridge?" stuff. MikeJF posted:There's liquid metals sloshing around above the solid stuff too, I believe. Yeah, the "gas" part on a planet like Jupiter is just a thin layer, it's mostly exotic liquids.
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hiddenriverninja posted:Install holo emitters in every corridor to materialize turrets to shoot people with high velocity hard light rounds in case of invasion Eh, like I said, why do turrets when you can just instantly encase everyone in skintight concrete. (Or realistically just dispose of the image and wrap them all in forcefields so they literally can't move a single muscle beyond breathing)
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MikeJF posted:Eh, like I said, why do turrets when you can just instantly encase everyone in skintight concrete. (Or realistically just dispose of the image and wrap them all in forcefields so they literally can't move a single muscle beyond breathing) Hell how many times have they been able to setup security force fields? Invading someone's own ship when the power is on should be a really loving stupid idea.
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Yeah realistically it should be a no-go without some kind of full on environment suit armor. You can fry people, turn the gravity to 20, blow the atmosphere away, and that's without even having special security emitters.
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Stargazer lineage:  TOS Era Radiant-Class Stargazer:   (Someone in charge of making this very much went 'gently caress Discovery') MikeJF fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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God that looks so good. And I'm so happy it's actually TOS, not Disc, and certainly not related to the Discoprise.
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Premiere of Picard was okay. There is potential there but the last few attempts in "new" Trek have made me too cautious to already shower it with praise. I also have to nitpick one thing: It just bothers me that in this future utopia there are people working on Picard's vineyard. You could maybe come up with some really contrived explanations (it's just people enjoying boring, physical labor) but I just know its in there due to noone putting any thought in details like that. I know that previous shows also had such issues whenever they tried to show live on earth/in the Federation but it still bothers me and I expect more from a modern Trek show. Btw it is funny how they "farm" the grapes. They are using transporter tech... that brings up certain questions regarding the difference between just recreating the same transporter "signature" of food vs replicators. If they whole point about a vineyard like Picard's is that it's all "natural" then I'm not sure how using transporters fits into it. At that point I also don't understand why you need to put those grapes into transport vehicles/boxes, transport them directly to wherever they get processed. I guess what I am saying is... the more you think about it the less sense it makes. It's also why Picard's vineyard has always bothered me. Why does he (his brother) have property for such activities? Can everyone on earth get a vineyard? Is this unnecessary waste of space just accepted? I understand that it is nitpicky but it always disappoints me that hardly any thought is put into this future utopia. I don't expect an explanation or a lecture on the economic system of the Federation but you can raise the stakes in a competent way if you show your viewers what that "utopia" actually is. Instead the Federation shown in Picard still looks just like ours with a bit of future tech thrown into it.
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Replicators create JPEGs, a transporter is lossless. It displaces the original to the destination perfectly. The transporter use to do the harvesting implies that most of the boring physical labor part is automated: it's a relatively relaxing hobby instead of backbreaking work. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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It's also probably a prestige thing, "manually crushed by smelly human feet for over 600 years"
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LinkesAuge posted:Btw it is funny how they "farm" the grapes. They are using transporter tech... that brings up certain questions regarding the difference between just recreating the same transporter "signature" of food vs replicators. A distinction they've been careful to make since TNG is that transporters have a higher resolution than replicators; they're able to save and recreate the exact configuration and quantum state of every atom in an object (at the cost of lots of energy and an unstable pattern buffer that requires a significant amount of storage space), while replicators use much less energy and storage by making a lot of approximations; a replicated grape is a grape-like object, but a transported grape is still the grape itself
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