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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Oh yeah lets just escalate this further into a shooting war rather than give aid thats working just fine for no real gain because you feel bad. We're (assuming you're American) really the best country to take the moral high ground on "don't invade sovereign nations and bomb civilians with no reason." You know they're taking foreign volunteers if it's so hard to directly sit it out and so eager? There comes a point where showing the hand and risking nuclear war is preferable to allowing the rise of a global fascist threat. We're nowhere there yet, but risking annihilation is preferable to letting them sit in silos until we're licking boots for generations to come. With them taking nibbles out of eastern Europe they're threatening that.
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Hajotus Maximus posted:This is accurate, at least for FDF. Especially this part hit home: This jives from my experience with the Swedish military (though I did my service in the early 90s so ymmv  ). We used to joke about the fact that we had a pretty good idea of which Spetznaz units were assigned to particular areas and how long we would last, but ultimately the entire thing was measured in minutes and designed to buy NATO time. Yay Cold War doctrine.
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In better news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zsIMfTEUjs "Press Conference with IAEA Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi" Summary by Sahil Shah posted:
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M_Gargantua posted:In better news: Yeah if there's anything that needs to be negotiated with the Russians, its getting them to agree to stay the gently caress away from Nuclear Plants with combat.
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Mar 4, 2022 15:24
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Alan Smithee posted:https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1499702341146234880?s=20&t=T0zwEqgVSHzkSzOreMBLNg Some Good Dogs in that article.
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Icon Of Sin posted:The one on the left is a Blackbeard flag*, slightly modified. Yes, that Blackbeard. Scourge of the Royal Navy, wove cannon fuse through his beard, cutlass-wielding Blackbeard. Murdered in 1718 off of Ocracoke Island by a British Royal Navy LT. So yeah there is actually some chud context here. You guys all remember Eddie Gallagher and his bullshit, right? Anyways, there exists within the SEALs an ideological divide in which a bunch of them consider themselves "pirates" in that they feel and act more lawless, more willing to take risks, and more hard charging than regular SEALs (Yes I know how  that sounds) . I know a couple of you read Alpha about the whole Eddie Gallagher trial, but they specifically talk about how that group of SEALs uses Blackbeard's flag as their unofficial flag, and conversely, how it has caused all sorts of headaches for NSW command. They are also conversely loaded with chuds (no poo poo).So it's not quite a maga flag, and it's not quite a "Scout Sniper" flag either, but it sure as gently caress ain't a great sign either. So be prepared for these idiots to either do some war criming or get killed in the most spectacularly dumb and needless way possible if Gallagher's exploits before he murdered that detainee are anything to go off of.
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Can we just disband and rehabilitate all the active duty SEALS already? They need to be de-programed and reintegrated into society and kept away from sharp objects for the rest of their lives.
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M_Gargantua posted:Can we just disband and rehabilitate all the active duty SEALS already? They need to be de-programed and reintegrated into society and kept away from sharp objects for the rest of their lives. Put them through the psychs that do the psych test for the Green Berets and you'll weed out 70-90% of the sociopaths.
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Bored As gently caress posted:Put them through the psychs that do the psych test for the Green Berets and you'll weed out 70-90% of the sociopaths. Your reminder that dan bilzerian failed seal psych
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Xakura posted:Your reminder that dan bilzerian failed seal psych You're telling me the guy who dresses like he's a member of an improv troup pretending that he's a cowboy, and asked Las Vegas PD to give him one of their rifles when the Las Vegas shooting was happening so he could shoot back from the ground, failed his seal psych exam? 
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Bored As gently caress posted:Put them through the psychs that do the psych test for the Green Berets and you'll weed out 70-90% of the sociopaths. I’m intrigued by this, can you tell me more about this?
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Spoggerific posted:Doctrine purist, structure neutral. We talkin technicals or tanks here Xakura posted:Your reminder that dan bilzerian failed seal psych No, word is he was set up to fail/pushed out by instructors because enough of them realized he was bad news, which is relatively rare and not really an “official” process unlike army SF or most selections. It was a different community that wasn’t quite as cowboyish. I’d bet if he went 5 or more years later he’d fit in much better. All the psych evals happen way before BUD/S even starts, he was booted out either at the end of third phase or early in SQT or whatever it was called then. He’s still very bitter about it lol. Then because he had small stress fractures on his shin (almost everyone does if they stay long enough since you’re running about 20 miles a day) he just kept running while in holding while telling staff he was resting to prevent it from healing fully so he got a medical discharge. That last bit is the only thing I kinda respect about him I was dumb enough to “man up and finish my contract” and go to a deck department so I could experience severe almost crippling depression. But yeah even team guys met Dan and we’re like “oh this guy is a loving psycho”
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https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1499644729276960772?s=20&t=DvjA2TiFYNPrp-4myO88JQ gently caress.
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M_Gargantua posted:There comes a point where showing the hand and risking nuclear war is preferable to allowing the rise of a global fascist threat. We're nowhere there yet, but risking annihilation is preferable to letting them sit in silos until we're licking boots for generations to come. With them taking nibbles out of eastern Europe they're threatening that. There’s navigating a complex geopolitical situation and potentially irrational world leader and there’s calling for a shooting war for the sake of vibes and the guy I was responding so was doing the latter.
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I trust everyone who wants to see escalation will, if it happens, roger up for their nations armed forces and not have some cool reasons why people other than them need to die
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Hopefully the new thread title will help. Please stop dropping by to tell us that Azov are nazis, we know that. Nobody here has positive opinions of Azov. If you spot someone expressing a positive opinion of Azov, please let me know.
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maffew buildings posted:I trust everyone who wants to see escalation will, if it happens, roger up for their nations armed forces and not have some cool reasons why people other than them need to die
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1499644729276960772?s=20&t=DvjA2TiFYNPrp-4myO88JQ A totally normal reaction to hearing gunfire nearby...
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Marshal Prolapse posted:I’m intrigued by this, can you tell me more about this? Green Berets are in the news for war crimes, drug dealing, regular crimes and illegal killings significantly less than SEALs are. There still are plenty of examples, it's just way less than SEALs. Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Seekhay posted:This jives from my experience with the Swedish military (though I did my service in the early 90s so ymmv Oh yeah the podcast The Unconventional Soldier is by two British veterans who were artillery spotters who would be stay behinds in West Germany in areas that were expected to be overrun, where they would hide and call in precise strikes. They noted that in their extensive training there wasn't much about how after the Soviets had progressed too far for them to remain in that area to be useful how they were going to travel back to NATO lines and later realized oh we'd be assumed to be captured by that point.
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Bored As gently caress posted:Green Berets are in the news for war crimes, drug dealing, regular crimes and illegal killings significantly less than SEALs are. Oh I know I meant more about the evaluation itself and what they look for and ask.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Oh I know I meant more about the evaluation itself and what they look for and ask. Oh, sorry. I don't have any inkling as to how it's different - it's just that they seem to be able to weed out psychos slightly better.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Oh I know I meant more about the evaluation itself and what they look for and ask. It was a standard battery of tests such as the MMPI. Beyond that once it starts there’s no/few process, evaluations or boards like there is at SFAS unless you fail evolutions or particularly stand out to the instructors in a bad way. McNally posted:Hopefully the new thread title will help. It’s kinda weird to me that the reaction to finding out the (admittedly funny without context) post was staged by Azov guys wasn’t “oh dang good to know” but instead “WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT AZOV IS” (so why did you post or empty quote it?) It’s be pretty weird if every time the Wagner group was mentioned if someone kept going on about how everyone already knows about them so you must be a CIA agent and shut up about it.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:It’s kinda weird to me that the reaction to finding out the (admittedly funny without context) post was staged by Azov guys wasn’t “oh dang good to know” but instead “WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT AZOV IS” (so why did you post or empty quote it?) Possibly because it had already been brought up by that point.
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Bored As gently caress posted:Oh, sorry. I don't have any inkling as to how it's different - it's just that they seem to be able to weed out psychos slightly better. Aren’t their missions different too? SEALs - kill people Green Berets - make friend with and train locals (to kill people)
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bees everywhere posted:Imo NATO shouldn't intervene but there's nothing to stop them from doing their own troop exercises on Russia's border right now. Make Putin divert resources to prepare for a US invasion that never comes. Cold Response 22
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:It’s kinda weird to me that the reaction to finding out the (admittedly funny without context) post was staged by Azov guys wasn’t “oh dang good to know” but instead “WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT AZOV IS” (so why did you post or empty quote it?) The fact that you think this is weird says a lot more about you than it does about anyone else. Like, it had already been brought up multiple times. It's also been brought up in other areas as a way to say that, no it's actually really good that russia is invading and killing a bunch of people. And people do that by doing exactly what the poster you are so breathlessly defending do. Which is why everyone finds it so annoying. Basically it isn't weird if you've been even slightly paying attention.
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https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1499777532438224899 I've seen three different tail numbers on downed Russian SU-25s today: 04 White, 08 Red, and now 07 White. Among many other things, I can't say that I would want to be piloting low and slow attack planes in contested airspace.
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CainFortea posted:The fact that you think this is weird says a lot more about you than it does about anyone else. Like, it had already been brought up multiple times. It's also been brought up in other areas as a way to say that, no it's actually really good that russia is invading and killing a bunch of people. And people do that by doing exactly what the poster you are so breathlessly defending do. Which is why everyone finds it so annoying. It’s very weird to post a random Azov propaganda image and be like “oh that’s rad” but what do I know. The idea that calling it out somehow enables Russia is laughable. If anything not separating support of the Ukrainian people from support of fascist ethnic militias is exactly what Russia has been doing. Also who has actually said that what Russia doing is good, please quote the post.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:please quote the post. I did. Literally. In this very thread. Which is why this whole thing is annoying.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:It’s very weird to post a random Azov propaganda image and be like “oh that’s rad” but what do I know. Can we get a Final Solution on this kind of posting? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Generation Internet posted:https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1499777532438224899 If someone bags a Yellow 13, I'll need to dig out my Ace Combat 4 disc.
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CainFortea posted:I did. Literally. In this very thread. Which is why this whole thing is annoying. The idea that you can’t talk about a military unit in a thread about a war that unit plays a role in because it makes the better side look bad is ridiculous anyway, but are you actually referring to anything or just trying to make a joke that you quoted me because I sure don’t see it in this thread.
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:It’s very weird to post a random Azov propaganda image and be like “oh that’s rad” but what do I know. Also to be semantic it was Ukranian propaganda that happened to be produced by Azov. Them being Nazi's doesn't make the concept of recreating the famous painting any less good, just smears poo poo over the product. Wait till you see all the US military propaganda videos that were also made by nazi and nazi adjacent folk
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M_Gargantua posted:Also to be semantic it was Ukranian propaganda that happened to be produced by Azov. I mean we still drive Fords don't we.
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As Nero Danced posted:If someone bags a Yellow 13, I'll need to dig out my Ace Combat 4 disc. Over simplified question but are SU-25s roughly equivalent in their role to A-10s? Yeah Ace Combat 4 owned, pretty much the epitome of a successful Blockbuster rental. I tried playing 7 and got bored, hard to have any stake in the story when it's silly enough that prisoners are given armed aircraft to fight off air raids. I don't know of any penal battalion that would be provided supersonic escape vehicles.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Over simplified question but are SU-25s roughly equivalent in their role to A-10s? Over simplified answer: yeah Main actual difference: A-10s have gained a bunch of weapons over the years to keep them outside of cannon range to make them a bit more survivable; SU-25s less so. Also SU-25s aren't slow as molasses.
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