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girl dick energy posted:I fell off Darths and Droids when it got to the original trilogy, the massive toneshift from not wanting to insult or tarnish the sacred cow sucked all the life out of the comic. Either this is the first I've heard the comic continued after RotS or I bounced off so hard at the same point that I completely forgot.
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Feb 27, 2022 22:23
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Malpais Legate posted:Are we pearl-clutching because it's furry porn or is there another angle here? Because like, if he wants to do it and people are gonna pay for it I cannot give that much of a poo poo. I don't really care about the porn stuff since I always thought it was edgy trash, but I thought that was what folks were alluding to. Also I got myself worked up because I thought I could make a clever pun connecting furry porn and dick wolves.
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Feb 27, 2022 22:46
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I remember Darths and Droids having a pretty compelling plot all the way up through the prequels, but I never managed to make it through A New Hope. They didn't really throw in the same sort of weird twists, and having Luke be a new player in the group just mirroring the movie luke's character arc wasn't very interesting. DM of the Rings was the forerunner to Darths and Droids, but lacked the zany recontextualizing of movie events as well as lacking the emotional core, since the players and DM really hated eachother. I wonder if the Hobbit movies would be fertile ground now. Malpais Legate posted:Are we pearl-clutching because it's furry porn or is there another angle here? Because like, if he wants to do it and people are gonna pay for it I cannot give that much of a poo poo. I do gotta wonder what his update schedule was like for that. But I remember the comics later on got more and more disgusting, so I can't really imagine how much sex appeal he can draw. But either way, he's planning on ending the normal comic and porn comic now I guess. It's been 19 years, I dunno what he's gonna do now, but he sure had his run. Maybe he'll drag his heels on the final update long enough to reach 20.
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Feb 27, 2022 22:48
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SlothfulCobra posted:DM of the Rings was the forerunner to Darths and Droids, but lacked the zany recontextualizing of movie events as well as lacking the emotional core, since the players and DM really hated eachother. I wonder if the Hobbit movies would be fertile ground now. I think that is what made it work better TBH. It was not "here is me telling a rando story" it is "Where is what the events of LotR would be like if justified around a table of rando RPer assholes" and that made the comedy work.
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Nostalgamus posted:In a lot of ways, VGcats was entirely "Dick Wolves" moments. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he had a comic about (implied) violent rape of someone who dared to say "rape is never funny"
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ImpAtom posted:I think that is what made it work better TBH. It was not "here is me telling a rando story" it is "Where is what the events of LotR would be like if justified around a table of rando RPer assholes" and that made the comedy work.
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Feb 28, 2022 03:23
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The Darths and Droids retelling of the original trilogy does eventually go to some interesting places, with some big twists that diverge pretty far from the plot of the movies. I'd say that part of the comic might be worth catching up on now that it's all finished. I fell off afterwards, when they were kind of spinning their wheels waiting to see what direction the new trilogy would take.
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girl dick energy posted:Darths and Droids ends up having more emotional payoff and being a different kind of funny as the players behind the characters start to develop as characters of their own. Yeah, it's been a long time and I only remember ever reading the prequel comics, but it kind of evolves into a story more about the players and their relationships and growth than the actual tabletop game they're playing.
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Feb 28, 2022 05:42
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I fell off Darths and Droids pretty early on but I have a soft spot for the ridiculously recursive comic where they explain how pop culture is changed in a world with no Star Wars, and what webcomic would exist in universe
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I could never really sink my teeth into Darths and Droids, since I am one of those heretics who has never watched a single Star Wars movie and only knows them through cultural mitosis. Still, I liked the "Jar Jar Binks is the little sister's character, and that's why he's the way he is, and the other players actually like him" joke. now "Friendship is Dragons", that one I've read front to back and had a great time. Love a series literally about trust and communication between players and GMs
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I know I finished the prequels of D&D, but I fell off somewhere in the OT. I don't remember where or why. I think I just got tired of it.
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paradoxGentleman posted:I could never really sink my teeth into Darths and Droids, since I am one of those heretics who has never watched a single Star Wars movie and only knows them through cultural mitosis. Still, I liked the "Jar Jar Binks is the little sister's character, and that's why he's the way he is, and the other players actually like him" joke. Cultural osmosis Mitosis is when a cell divides itself into two new cells I apologize in advance
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YggiDee posted:I fell off Darths and Droids pretty early on but I have a soft spot for the ridiculously recursive comic where they explain how pop culture is changed in a world with no Star Wars, and what webcomic would exist in universe I had forgotten the insane number of layers this has. Unbelievable commitment to the bit.
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A Sometimes Food posted:Well that's great to hear, I got something to read when taking breaks from Elden Ring.
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McCloud posted:Cultural osmosis Technically, most things you know about because of cultural osmosis are a result of cultural mitosis because iconic moments or ideas from the popular thing are split into multiple new moments in other media in the form of parody, recreation, reference, or quotation 
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Technically, most things you know about because of cultural osmosis are a result of cultural mitosis because iconic moments or ideas from the popular thing are split into multiple new moments in other media in the form of parody, recreation, reference, or quotation If the ideas that arise from the split are not equal to the original idea a more apt term would be meiosis, which is the process of genetic recombination and division. Mitosis is just replication. 
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What I like a lot about Darths and Droids is how the DM does a really good job in adapting the plot to the shenanigans of the players. I think somewhere I read commentary that its kind of an extreme case to act in contrast to Fellowship of the Ring (which featured an extremely railroady DM) whilst the Darths and Droids DM is perhaps a tad too accommodating to the players doing whatever they want.  But I think it certainly showcases the ability of the DM to improvize on the fly.
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I still fondly regard Qui-Gon'sconvoluted plan for the Pod race, during which he forgets whether his plan is to have Anakin win or lose the race, multiple times. Also their version of whether Han Shot First.
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fractalairduct posted:The Darths and Droids retelling of the original trilogy does eventually go to some interesting places, with some big twists that diverge pretty far from the plot of the movies. I'd say that part of the comic might be worth catching up on now that it's all finished.
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sebmojo posted:Come back to the thread once you are caught up, would be great to have your thoughts. Still really good. Made me want to play DnD. Forgotten how much I liked the core cast of this. World Famous W posted:When ya get done catching up, mind checking i with the thread? Want to ask you about one part that the thread found contentious What you want to ask?
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A Sometimes Food posted:Still really good. Made me want to play DnD. Forgotten how much I liked the core cast of this. In your opinion, was Miko morally justified in— oh, excuse me, there are some people with shotguns knocking at my door...
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Ultimately, the fault lay with Shojo, Miko was merely a symptom of his hubris and a tragic victim of a Bad Dad. You may fault her for not rising above her upbringing, but if she did not kill him and doom Azure City, another member of the Sapphire Guard would have.
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TheAceOfLungs posted:In your opinion, was Miko morally justified in— oh, excuse me, there are some people with shotguns knocking at my door...
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Miko was justified in rejecting Roy's advances. Even if he is the protagonist and has a pretty hot bod and rolled 16+ for all his stats he was still kind of an idiot around her.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Ultimately, the fault lay with Shojo, Miko was merely a symptom of his hubris and a tragic victim of a Bad Dad. You may fault her for not rising above her upbringing, but if she did not kill him and doom Azure City, another member of the Sapphire Guard would have. i think any other member of the sapphire guard probably wouldnt have killed shojo actually
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I also started reading Darths and Droids because of this thread and while I haven't finished the PT yet I'm thoroughly enjoying it, the same dumb player switching from Qui Gon to Padme was strangely on point
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jsoh posted:i think any other member of the sapphire guard probably wouldnt have killed shojo actually You'd think wrong then. The Sapphire Guard had a rotten "nits make lice" core that Shojo had allowed to fester, and it was always going to be his undoing. We only really see Miko representing this because Rich prefers writing characters to writing groups, but she was not the only bad person in it. Hinjo, O-Chul and Lien are the exceptions. Those three individuals wouldn't kill Shojo, no, but The Sapphire Guard would have done it as soon as they caught whiff of any effort to stifle them. This point is even repeated later on with The Resistance, which ends up getting crushed because "the only good goblin is a dead goblin," and is the driving factor of Redcloak's origin story. Rich is not subtle about his views on institutional bigotry and those who propagate it.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:You'd think wrong then. The Sapphire Guard had a rotten "nits make lice" core that Shojo had allowed to fester, and it was always going to be his undoing. We only really see Miko representing this because Rich prefers writing characters to writing groups, but she was not the only bad person in it. Hinjo, O-Chul and Lien are the exceptions. Those three individuals wouldn't kill Shojo, no, but The Sapphire Guard would have done it as soon as they caught whiff of any effort to stifle them. the sapphire guard is shown to be fantastically racist and corrupt but not an insane hive of conspiratorial bullshit which is what leads miko to kill shojo. she didnt kill him because he didnt want to genocide goblins she killed him because she thought he was working with the order of the stick and team evil to doom the world
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:You'd think wrong then. The Sapphire Guard had a rotten "nits make lice" core that Shojo had allowed to fester, and it was always going to be his undoing. We only really see Miko representing this because Rich prefers writing characters to writing groups, but she was not the only bad person in it. Hinjo, O-Chul and Lien are the exceptions. Those three individuals wouldn't kill Shojo, no, but The Sapphire Guard would have done it as soon as they caught whiff of any effort to stifle them. The Sapphire Guard literally has scenes where they refer to Miko as too rigid. It is unlikely anyone but her would have jumped instantly to "murder a helpless old man" because, if nothing else, said old man was human and not another race.
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I feel pretty confident any other member of the Sapphire Guard would have just, like... arrested him. Murdering someone on the spot without so much as a Detect Evil check is Chaotic as hell and egregious even for Miko. Cup Runneth Over fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I feel pretty confident any other member of the Sapphire Guard would have just, like... arrested him. why, it's almost like she was the ultimate expression of the worst parts of the sapphire guard's arrogance and self-righteousness or something
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You might have noticed, A Sometimes Food, that this is something of an hot button issue, considering that we last saw Miko (outside of flashbacks) fifteen real-life years ago and people still have Opinions about her.
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Like there’s a reason the gods themselves showed up in an elaborate display basically asking “How could you gently caress up this bad?” And it isn’t because she did something that another paladin would.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:You'd think wrong then. The Sapphire Guard had a rotten "nits make lice" core that Shojo had allowed to fester, and it was always going to be his undoing. We only really see Miko representing this because Rich prefers writing characters to writing groups, but she was not the only bad person in it. Hinjo, O-Chul and Lien are the exceptions. Those three individuals wouldn't kill Shojo, no, but The Sapphire Guard would have done it as soon as they caught whiff of any effort to stifle them. You are making some pretty wild leaps from a single line of a resistance fighter in an occupied city to say that every single paladin is an omnicidal rules-loving maniac. Especially since we have objectively more examples of paladins not being like that (Hinjo, Lein, O'Chul, mustache guy, Soon) than we have examples of those that are.
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Who What Now posted:You are making some pretty wild leaps from a single line of a resistance fighter in an occupied city to say that every single paladin is an omnicidal rules-loving maniac. Especially since we have objectively more examples of paladins not being like that (Hinjo, Lein, O'Chul, mustache guy, Soon) than we have examples of those that are. That line was from one of the elves that teleported in, iirc
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Who What Now posted:You are making some pretty wild leaps from a single line of a resistance fighter in an occupied city to say that every single paladin is an omnicidal rules-loving maniac. Especially since we have objectively more examples of paladins not being like that (Hinjo, Lein, O'Chul, mustache guy, Soon) than we have examples of those that are. I am actually paraphrasing the author commentary which follows that strip where Rich explicitly states that it is one example of the reasons The Resistance failed. The story follows the actual good paladins because they are the characters worth following; nobody wants a hundred strips of random paladins and elves murdering babies and gloating about it or hypocritically justifying it, because that's not an interesting story. O-Chul and Lien and Thanh are individuals. Miko and elf captain and eyepatch lady are representantives of a larger group.
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I think the idea Hinjo/Lien/O'chul are the outliers of the Sapphire Guard is sort of directly contradicted by How The Paladin Got His Scar though, as when push came to shove (spoilers for a really old comicbook? I guess? ) the nameless Paladins chose not to genocide the hobgoblins when given a flimsy pretense to do so. Are there some of them who might have pulled a Miko when presented with the information she was? Probably, but I don't think you can reasonably say that the majority of them would.
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