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Lmao we just got a very sincere HAPPY EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DAY!!! email from management where they didn't even bother to spell "appreciation" correctly. I am feeling very apreciate, thanks 
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Shame Boy posted:Lmao we just got a very sincere HAPPY EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DAY!!! email from management where they didn't even bother to spell "appreciation" correctly. I am feeling very apreciate, thanks not even a pizza party? gift card to Little Caesars?
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Mar 4, 2022 15:57
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I thought Employee Appreciation Day happened every month, on pay day
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The Bloop posted:not even a pizza party? gift card to Little Caesars? Apparently we will be doing "special activities" to celebrate throughout the month, which is incredibly ominous
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Mar 4, 2022 16:05
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My job hired an outside firm to administer an employee survey and then after the survey there was a survey about the survey The future is lame
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Mar 4, 2022 16:10
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I thought Employee Appreciation Day happened every month, on pay day The email helpfully includes the Fun Fact that it's originally from this book:  which is already great, but while looking for that I found out there's a revised edition that replaces that conspicuous mention of "time off" on the cover with:  Secret tricks on to get those DARN LAZY MILLENNIALS working!!!
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Mar 4, 2022 16:11
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Oh boy do I love being treated to a Case Study
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Mar 4, 2022 16:13
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Lmao the back is even better Wow, free snow removal once a month, this is much better than a raise, thanks. Though I do like that Zappos idea, I wonder if they still do that. Also man I would hate to work for Bob Nelson's stupid consulting firm, christ.
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Mar 4, 2022 16:15
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“money isn’t everything” is in quotes now too 
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Mar 4, 2022 16:16
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Shame Boy posted:Apparently we will be doing "special activities" to celebrate throughout the month, which is incredibly ominous I hope you get to play Red Rover and Heads Up Seven Up
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Mar 4, 2022 16:27
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The look inside is full of the exact sort of sociopath weirdness I was expecting Paying employees for doing a good job is bad, actually:  Employees expect to be thanked for their good work, an alien concept we need to explain and justify to you:  That section goes on for several pages explaining how these hu-mans have a desire for knowing they're doing a good job and don't respond well to being yelled at, concluding with:  He did his business school doctoral thesis on "do you like it when people say you're doing a good job y/n".
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Mar 4, 2022 16:28
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The Bloop posted:not even a pizza party? gift card to Little Caesars? Update: pizza party has been confirmed
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lol@ bonus.ly
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Shame Boy posted:The look inside is full of the exact sort of sociopath weirdness I was expecting A culture of unnecessary spending? But I thought Money Isn't Everything™ so why does it matter if a little bit of money is unnece-- oh, oh! Money isn't everything to the employee ohohoho
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Mar 4, 2022 19:10
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Shame Boy posted:The look inside is full of the exact sort of sociopath weirdness I was expecting I wonder what his opinion on commissions and royalties are.
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Mar 4, 2022 19:12
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Shame Boy posted:The look inside is full of the exact sort of sociopath weirdness I was expecting It's funny because yeah, there's plenty of evidence out there that more dollar doesn't necessarily make for better performance or "motivation." But it all has this big loving asterisk that the person receiving remittance has the material resources to live a comfortable, happy life already. Which studies show starts kicking in around $75,000 adjusted for inflation. It's a master class in cherry picking your facts.
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Warmachine posted:It's funny because yeah, there's plenty of evidence out there that more dollar doesn't necessarily make for better performance or "motivation." But it all has this big loving asterisk that the person receiving remittance has the material resources to live a comfortable, happy life already. Which studies show starts kicking in around $75,000 adjusted for inflation. I think this is bullshit, personally. I've had enough exposure to salespeople (not me) who are making well into six figures (and occasionally seven), and they all seem more than willing to bust their asses to chase every last commission buck. Even those who are already multimillionaires can be relentless in their pursuit of a bigger paycheck despite the easy option to stop working forever. I'm convinced that these studies aren't being done on people whose income truly scales with performance. I've been in enough positions where working myself nearly to death would be rewarded with no more than a $500-1500 check and a day or two of extra PTO, and while those rewards are technically monetary it's not remotely enough to justify the extra effort. But non-monetary awards are bullshit too and that dude is a moron. I've made it really clear to every boss I've had for the last ~decade that giving me anything but money or time will be seen as an insult and have a demotivational effect. Maybe I sound like an rear end in a top hat here, but being an rear end in a top hat to management seems like a reasonable choice and is one which has worked well so far.
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Sorry I'm late but you missed the best one
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The real trick is portraying recognition and sick days or easily managed PTO as rewards instead of basic loving requirements of human work interaction. It's like that old Chris Rock sketch where people brag about just being not a psycho: "I never beat my kids!" "I've never been to jail!" "I give my employees paid time off when they're sick!"
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Mar 4, 2022 20:42
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Loucks posted:I think this is bullshit, personally. I've had enough exposure to salespeople (not me) who are making well into six figures (and occasionally seven), and they all seem more than willing to bust their asses to chase every last commission buck. Even those who are already multimillionaires can be relentless in their pursuit of a bigger paycheck despite the easy option to stop working forever. I'm convinced that these studies aren't being done on people whose income truly scales with performance. I've been in enough positions where working myself nearly to death would be rewarded with no more than a $500-1500 check and a day or two of extra PTO, and while those rewards are technically monetary it's not remotely enough to justify the extra effort. Yeah, I'm 1) talking more about salary/hourly work and 2) I think salespeople and other commission chaser professions are loving nuts and I have no idea how to categorize the kind of brainworms involved there.
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Mar 4, 2022 21:06
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Warmachine posted:I think salespeople and other commission chaser professions are loving nuts and I have no idea how to categorize the kind of brainworms involved there. They're absolutely insane. I love spending time around them because I feel like I'm doing some weird case study. Also they tend to pay for the drinks once they get a little sloshed.
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Mar 4, 2022 21:10
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Unless there's an insanely clear incentive structure with zero input from bosses, changing jobs is always the fastest way to make more money.
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Shame Boy posted:I like that only the top half is Sky House, you're not allowed to say you live in Sky House if you're one of the plebs on the first 20 floors Pssh 20 floors? That's your standard 65 storey suburban condo, more like 45 floors of plebs (who themselves are spending $1,000+ per square foot). Vancouver has the same population as Portland, Oregon, whose tallest residential tower is 28 floors. I'd bet Vancouver has close to 50 residential towers that are taller. Edit: this is not a flex, they are empty and used as laundering assets. UnfortunateSexFart has issued a correction as of 21:35 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Shame Boy posted:Lmao we just got a very sincere HAPPY EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION DAY!!! email from management where they didn't even bother to spell "appreciation" correctly. I am feeling very apreciate, thanks I did too. Just an email from the exec team that all works from home.
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the 75k figure is from kahnemann's thing. tversky was the math guy but hes dead. if he were alive, he wpuld prolly have noted that the whole relation is remarkably loglinear, so the motivation is basically completely affected by monetary adjustments: its just that the differential motivation scales to log of the monetary difference. you need to double salaries to get peeps to care about monetary difference, not lard 5k onto 55k
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Warmachine posted:Yeah, I'm 1) talking more about salary/hourly work and 2) I think salespeople and other commission chaser professions are loving nuts and I have no idea how to categorize the kind of brainworms involved there. I was at a party where a car salesperson was bragging up their successful big ticket sales and generally how well they are doing and one of their family members let it slip that another family member of theirs had purchased a new car and the braggart went ashen faced and sat sulking for the rest of the party lol I don’t believe people when they talk about how well they’re doing. I’ve also spent enough time around noveau rich types to know most of them are up to their eyeballs in debt and it’s all a plate spinning game. Professor Shark has issued a correction as of 23:02 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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"Don't pay people more" dude is definitely a sociopath, but to be fair, I worked at a place where my "thank you" for pulling two all-nighters to get discovery out for a trial that the managing partner waited until the last minute to get to me was having one of the associates call me into her office to tell me that said partner ordered her to chew me out because fifteen pages made it in that shouldn't have. "Wait, only fifteen pages?". "Yeah." "That's a goddamn miracle.". "I know!" I got thanked more in the first month at my next job more than I had ever been at that job, and it was night and loving day. Somebody telling Boomers "actually, you should say 'thank you' to people who do things for you" in such a way that they might listen is doing a public service.
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AxGrap posted:Sorry I'm late but you missed the best one Neuken in der keuken Neuken in der keuken Neuken in der keuken Dere waas fuuk all alss to deu
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Mar 4, 2022 23:27
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Shame Boy posted:The email helpfully includes the Fun Fact that it's originally from this book: That PhD was what it took for the the last 500 tips.
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https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1499876153988845569
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Spazzle posted:That PhD was what it took for the the last 500 tips. Lmao I didn't even notice that
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rock n roller cola wars I can’t take it anymore
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the 75k figure is from kahnemann's thing. tversky was the math guy but hes dead. if he were alive, he wpuld prolly have noted that the whole relation is remarkably loglinear, so the motivation is basically completely affected by monetary adjustments: its just that the differential motivation scales to log of the monetary difference. you need to double salaries to get peeps to care about monetary difference, not lard 5k onto 55k it takes an exponential increase of every kind of stimulus to be perceived as linear. why would money be any different quote:Fechner's law is an inference from Weber's law (with additional assumptions) which states that the intensity of our sensation increases as the logarithm of an increase in energy rather than as rapidly as the increase. Ruffian Price has issued a correction as of 01:51 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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yeah, kahnemann said saturation but loglinear to someone who doesnt have good enough data for seeing if its loglinear seems a lot like saturation
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:That is definitely not the problem in Vancouver. Here is what suburban skylines look like, not downtown. UnfortunateSexFart posted:Edit: this is not a flex, they are empty and used as laundering assets. ahhhh i see....hahahaha i am harry has issued a correction as of 08:27 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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i am harry posted:can you explain this term in detail please? are these things just rising out of the same sort of quintessential american suburban sprawl? those are just houses in the front? Yeah, like imagine if every suburb in your town had its own cluster of high rise towers rather than just downtown and maaaybe one other area. Like here is downtown, which is like 90% residential. Not a single major corporate HQ in the city:  Then there's Metrotown as shown previously, about a 30 minute drive from downtown:  Brentwood:  The City of North Vancouver where I lived:  New Westminster:  District of West Vancouver:  Lougheed:  Richmond (lower towers required as it's next to the international airport)  Surrey:  Coquitlam:  ...plus more. Note some of these photos are 8+ years old so there are many more towers now. Basically every single suburb has its own tower skyline as the whole city runs on real estate profits. Kinda ridiculous for a somewhat small city of 2.5 million. UnfortunateSexFart has issued a correction as of 12:19 on Mar 5, 2022 |
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Yeah, like imagine if every suburb in your town had its own cluster of high rise towers rather than just downtown and maaaybe one other area. And each metro has its own sort of vibe and cuisine and there's pretty decent public transit including a train linking them all up. Tbh it owns and I miss living there.
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Leroy Diplowski posted:And each metro has its own sort of vibe and cuisine and there's pretty decent public transit including a train linking them all up. Tbh it owns and I miss living there. Food is excellent, I'll give it that. Strongly disagree on the other points.
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Got caught by surprise by a commercial on tv last night. bulletproofhelmetusa. Kind of amazing seeing combat helmets for everyday use is a thing. It felt like a Robocop ad so i had to check it out. Paydirt.
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Mr Beef Head posted:Got caught by surprise by a commercial on tv last night. bulletproofhelmetusa. Kind of amazing seeing combat helmets for everyday use is a thing. It felt like a Robocop ad so i had to check it out. Paydirt. None for the kids?
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