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feedmyleg posted:The production design won't meet my standards until the ships are floor-to-ceiling shag with numerous conversation pits. I want my starships like I want my apartments: hardwood floors and granite countertops
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https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Raritan_IVquote:Writer Terry Matalas named this planet after Raritan, New Jersey, near his home town. here's hoping that much like how everything in Lower Decks is named after places in southern California, we get a whole season of Picard full of things named after New Jersey towns let's visit Ho-Ho-Kus Prime and maybe swing by the Hackensack Nebula to meet with the Lopatcongs
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feedmyleg posted:As someone who also started on S2E1 and has no prior understanding of the character, my assessment is that they should kiss. same The background is that she and her late husband were Tal Shiar spies who became chateau butlers/maids/aides to Picard for 12-14 years after he was the admiral of a fleet of ships rescuing Romulan refugees and then gave up and retired after the Federation disbanded the fleet after Mars 9/11 led them to focus on internal issues. They had phaser rifles hidden throughout the house and it was cool The 12-14 years are a time for which the "sense of duty" excuse doesn't hold up galenanorth fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Mar 6, 2022 |
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ashpanash posted:So uhhh...Season 2 Episode 1 of Picard had no story. There were no arcs. Just a whole bunch of tablesetting. And about three scenes too many of "Picard, you have to open your heart!" That's because it was more of a prologue and way to retcon practically everything for when the season really starts. Even the first episode of season 1 was promising enough (besides the terrible treatment picard got in his interview), but once the show got going and more and more time was spent with the characters who weren't picard, there was a huge drop in quality. I want to have faith they won't make the same mistake again, but I just can't be sure.
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The_Doctor posted:The new Disco shuttles look so cheap inside, there’s no detail at all. Also those tiny seats are comical!
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Lister posted:That's because it was more of a prologue and way to retcon practically everything for when the season really starts. Even the first episode of season 1 was promising enough (besides the terrible treatment picard got in his interview), but once the show got going and more and more time was spent with the characters who weren't picard, there was a huge drop in quality. I want to have faith they won't make the same mistake again, but I just can't be sure. I gave Picard the benefit of the doubt in season one. Picard didn’t earn the benefit of the doubt. Somehow I doubt the season is going to be SO FULL that they had to fit all of the retcon intro into one episode without telling even a modicum of a story at all. It’s a bad sign.
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My mom, who has watched everything Trek since she was a teenager watching TOS, messaged me a week ago and said she's giving up on Discovery. The season premiere of Picard I found very boring but the last 5 minutes with Q and the best use of de-aging I've seen (because they kept it in a medium shot for a few seconds and then poof, gone) got me into it.
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I doubt i will watch more of Discovery after this, with how I have to almost force myself to keep going.
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Discovery: Anyone else think the giant cartilaginous creatures that lived in the atmosphere of a gas giant and were nearly wiped out about a thousand years ago... might possibly be related to the extra galactic whale probe from Voyage Home? I respect people who aren't into the slow/awkward tone, but I really was into the premise of today's episode: let's save the day with some xenoanthropology! Discovery's relentless determination to be wholesome after that huge mess of a first season is nice, even if they keep raising the stakes way too high. Settle down, Discovery, I would care about your silly xenoanthropological adventures even if you didn't promise the destruction of Earth and Ni'Var. And, I appreciate how often they're mentioning it: Titan. Don't forget about Titan. Picard: Honestly, Picard's love life is not especially interesting to me. Feels like Insurrection where Patrick Stewart wanted to sex things up. Jurati being drunk in inappropriate situations was not very amusing to me either. Otherwise it was great! I do like the generally positive tone compared to last season. Borg asking to join the Federation and Starfleet freaking the gently caress out is a great framing point for an introspective look at fear and tolerance. Amazingly good thematic start. I wonder if it'll be pointed out that Q was the one who first introduced the Federation to the Borg. I wonder if this is going to have all been part of his plan- not just testing the strength of the Federation (as it seemed he was doing in that first Borg episode), but testing the idealism of the Federation with something truly alien. "Oh, you think you're powerful? You think you're enlightened? How would you deal with this?" He's being kind of appropriately cruel if Picard blowing up the Stargazer was final proof that the Federation wasn't as enlightened as Picard claimed, all those years ago.
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Picard was very good beyond the nitpick it should have been the Stargazer-B
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sbaldrick posted:Picard was very good beyond the nitpick it should have been the Stargazer-B Only if it was the same registration, a la 1701-A. They went and added 80k to it, so it's rooty tooty fresh and fruity.
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The alphabet suffix gets a little silly anyway, I kinda hope the Enterprise-E is the last one named that way.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The alphabet suffix gets a little silly anyway, I kinda hope the Enterprise-E is the last one named that way. Yeah, the suffix thing only happened because Gene Roddenberry leaked the plan to move everyone onto the Excelsior and there was a fan revolt, so Harve Bennett made the call to just put an "-A" decal on the old refit Enterprise model. And now it's just gone fuckin' bonkers. Voyager-J, kiss my rear end.
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quote:Unlike some other starships that share a name, the new Stargazer didn’t get a letter affixed to its number. Instead, it just got an extra digit. Why not make the Stargazer NCC-2893-A? Or B, or C? Other than Enterprise and Voyager there's only a couple of other far future ships that have the letter suffix, it's really rare
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Until Disco the Enterprise was the only ship that got letters since the Enterprise is special.
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Yeah, there's been lots of reused ship names in Starfleet before this, none of them got suffixes.   In an ideal world it's a bit busy in the middle area for me but I'm just happy the designs are in the right wheelhouse at all any more. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Mar 6, 2022 |
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The bussard collectors are a big improvement from the Sovereign mimicing ones a lot of 'modern' Federation designs were saddled with.
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, there's been lots of reused ship names in Starfleet before this, none of them got suffixes. It's still Eaves bullshit (Sovereign saucer with Stargazer futured-up nacelles attached), but it's a lot better than some of the poo poo we've seen lately.
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feedmyleg posted:The production design won't meet my standards until the ships are floor-to-ceiling shag with numerous conversation pits. Barbarella: the Next Generation  https://scifiinterfaces.com/2013/02/20/the-furry-cockpit/ Myok fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 6, 2022 |
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Eimi posted:The bussard collectors are a big improvement from the Sovereign mimicing ones a lot of 'modern' Federation designs were saddled with. I'm sad because the original concept for the Enterprise-E had more classical bussards, ILM suggested they encase it in cowling.  (For all eaves gets the credit for the E it was apparently a big collaborative thing between him and ILM with designs going back and forth, I suspect that's where a lot of the extra greebling in the design came from)
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In the opening of Picard season 2, he walks in the vineyard, eats a grape, it shows his girlfriend make a label, it shows the label change on the bottle he is holding. Was that supposed to be different days? It is presented like it is all one scene, but he has a totally different hat/outfit on. The first one matches the one he has on in his little kid flashback, but then he is in the other one when the camera goes back to him. 
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MikeJF posted:I'm sad because the original concept for the Enterprise-E had more classical bussards, ILM suggested they encase it in cowling. Wow just having better nacelles makes me like it a lot more. It also keeps more of the Galaxy in that design.
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Surprised I’ve not seen anyone on the internet commenting on the return of the Deltans - is this the first time since TMP?
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It didn't even occur to me that those could be Deltans
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, there's been lots of reused ship names in Starfleet before this, none of them got suffixes. I like it. I'm trying to decide of the nacelles are just very large or if the ship overall is a little small.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Surprised I’ve not seen anyone on the internet commenting on the return of the Deltans - is this the first time since TMP? There was a Deltan in Undiscovered Country, but that was the last time. I think no one's commenting because nobody ever cared about Deltans.
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, there's been lots of reused ship names in Starfleet before this, none of them got suffixes. What are all the extra things where the nacelles meet? It makes it look like the back of a very muscular person
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Guess I must have missed the Season 3 announcement.
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From the classic Trek thread:mossyfisk posted:They're taxed in prestige. Picard is legally required to host a weekly podcast spotlighting underappreciated Federation citizens. Imagine if the way out of place 21st century thing Rafi did was podcasting instead of space vaping. Just being Space Joe Rogan or Space Alex Jones.
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They posted another shot: Also, from Booby Trap: quote:PICARD: Ghosts, perhaps? Number One, have you never dreamed of climbing inside the bottle?  He's got a lil model of a Promellian Battlecruiser in the bottle there. Also singe marks on the painting from the crash. 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1500288340309938179?s=21 Matalas has been extremely uncoy that we're gonna be stopping by the OG Stargazer on the crew's path back to the future, yes.
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MikeJF posted:They posted another shot: Unnnnff that's the stuffff
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MikeJF posted:They posted another shot: what a ship
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MikeJF posted:I'm sad because the original concept for the Enterprise-E had more classical bussards, ILM suggested they encase it in cowling. Oh man I really like this
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Payndz posted:And did Seven just beam those guys into space? Absolutely 100%. Eiba posted:Borg asking to join the Federation and Starfleet freaking the gently caress out is a great framing point for an introspective look at fear and tolerance. Amazingly good thematic start. Well, I hope you're not expecting to see it again until the last five minutes of the final episode of the season.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It didn't even occur to me that those could be Deltans Soji dropped a line about Deltan parties but yeah up until that bit I was just like "a race of bald people huh"
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