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McCracAttack posted:Cases are low right now so there's less COVID out there to catch. Also "back to normal" folks can go months with daily exposures before their luck runs out. If you ask this cave dweller, it feels pretty reasonable to do things like haircuts and dentist visits between waves. Sure, in between waves. But how are you going to know if we're in between waves now that we've gutted testing, reporting, and there's a huge societal push that Covid is over so nobody's talking about how they heard their neighbors got sick with it?
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Real Mean Queen posted:I’ve been kind of involuntarily Osterizing stuff in my head for a while now. i want to write an article saying now that we've finally got the pandemic right by ending ineffective measures like masks, social distancing, and work from home, it's time we applied this common sense to other parts of society. we've known for decades, for example, that traffic regulations don't work. Let's take our wins on covid and end seatbelt mandates, traffic light laws, and drunk driving laws. those who are particularly susceptible to severe trauma from car crashes can continue to follow stop signs and red lights if they feel safer, but for the rest of us it's time to make it an individual choice of which traffic laws to follow according to our own risk preferences
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Shear Modulus posted:i want to write an article saying now that we've finally got the pandemic right by ending ineffective measures like masks, social distancing, and work from home, it's time we applied this common sense to other parts of society. we've known for decades, for example, that traffic regulations don't work. Let's take our wins on covid and end seatbelt mandates, traffic light laws, and drunk driving laws. those who are particularly susceptible to severe trauma from car crashes can continue to follow stop signs and red lights if they feel safer, but for the rest of us it's time to make it an individual choice of which traffic laws to follow according to our own risk preferences Jonathan Swift did this 300 years ago, OP.
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Rescue Toaster posted:2) Is everybody wiping off their elastomerics with alcohol, or taking them apart and washing them every time? Or just doing nothing? Especially since you can't always let them sit for days and days like with cycling masks. I've been completely disassembling and washing but that seems like it'll wear out parts quick. And wiping the outside of the cartridges with alcohol wipes sometimes. i didn't wash my envo mask for about a year and a half when i first got it, but i only used it once or twice a week at most. now that i'm using it for the entire workday, i try to wash and replace the filter after 40 hours of continuous which is about 2 weeks at my current rate (this rate isn't really based on anything scientific). the envo directions say you can fully submerge it and use mild soap and water so i use bronner's.
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Mar 6, 2022 20:01
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Rescue Toaster posted:2) Is everybody wiping off their elastomerics with alcohol, or taking them apart and washing them every time? Or just doing nothing? Especially since you can't always let them sit for days and days like with cycling masks. I've been completely disassembling and washing but that seems like it'll wear out parts quick. And wiping the outside of the cartridges with alcohol wipes sometimes. I've yet to wash mine, though I've never worn it indoors or around people - just walking to my car for curbside pickup or to take out the trash, and I guess getting my third dose in the car. If I had to wear it every day around people I'd probably do the 70% alcohol on the outer surfaces. Is dunking the whole thing in a big bowl of soapy water without disassembly good? Could be remembering wrong but I think I saw that recommended before.
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Mar 6, 2022 20:04
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NeonPunk posted:Sure, in between waves. If you live near an academic institution with a virology department they will often publish their own testing program's numbers whether or not the local government does and that (particular pcr positivity) can be a good proxy for whether to be at defcon 1.
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NeonPunk posted:Sure, in between waves. Posts per day in this thread
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NeonPunk posted:Sure, in between waves. https://www.amazon.com/product-revi...iews-filter-bar
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NeonPunk posted:Sure, in between waves. Poop water is our last remaining somewhat real time indicator.
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Mar 6, 2022 20:33
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NeonPunk posted:Sure, in between waves. I'm banking on the fact that we're so bad at everything we do they won't be able to keep the next wave completely under wraps.
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McCracAttack posted:I'm banking on the fact that we're so bad at everything we do they won't be able to keep the next wave completely under wraps. Germany and Japan executed over 40,000 people in 1944-1945 for saying the war was going poorly, there are always new options
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McCracAttack posted:I'm banking on the fact that we're so bad at everything we do they won't be able to keep the next wave completely under wraps. when it can't be shuffled into obscurity it's not gonna be called covid, the administration needs a fresh start and covid is over so clearly this other thing ripping through the population is sars-69 or some poo poo
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blatman posted:when it can't be shuffled into obscurity it's not gonna be called covid, the administration needs a fresh start and covid is over so clearly this other thing ripping through the population is sars-69 or some poo poo it's just the aftershocks, the main part is over and these will be minor and die down quickly
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Assume some hypothetical endemic virus infects everyone annually with a 1% lifetime risk of significant disability. This is probably minimally tolerable and comparable to other everyday risks. OTOH a virus with a 100% chance of causing significant disability after a single infection is obviously intolerable. Individuals and society would be justified in taking extreme measures to avoid such a virus and ensure it isn't widespread, or even try to eliminate it. A virus that infects annually with a ~10% chance of significant disability after each infection must be firmly on the intolerable side. It means an even chance of significant disability after 7 years. However this appears precisely the situation with COVID. I keep thinking no way it can't be this bad, but my understanding of the PASC research suggests if anything 10% is too low.
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Mar 6, 2022 20:56
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lmao there's gonna be a BA(.2)tman surge
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agreed, shameful it wasn’t a respirator
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NeonPunk posted:Sure, in between waves. ya the BA.2 wave is at ??? levels is it do gangbusters in your area right now? who knows no way to tel
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Stevie Lee posted:lmao there's gonna be a BA(.2)tman surge My wife's friend who flew while infectious and gave his entire extended family COVID went to see it last night. "Wasn't too excited about it, but it was either that or getting sushi." lol this country only knows how to consume and spread death.
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Why Am I So Tired posted:My wife's friend who flew while infectious and gave his entire extended family COVID went to see it last night. "Wasn't too excited about it, but it was either that or getting sushi." lol this country only knows how to consume and spread death. A century of propaganda teaching you that you are what you buy is a hell of a thing.
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batman is going to have to work hard if he wants to catch up to spidermans body count
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:A century of propaganda teaching you that you are what you buy is a hell of a thing. I'm a 50 lb sack of beans wearing a respirator.
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Kylaer posted:I am absolutely certain that the majority of Americans don't want mask mandates, because the majority of Americans don't wear masks. Something is off with the polling. Would be interesting to see what percentage of the ones calling for mask mandates are also doing indoor dining and/or gathering with family unmasked.
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Why Am I So Tired posted:Would be interesting to see what percentage of the ones calling for mask mandates are also doing indoor dining and/or gathering with family unmasked. My wife's grandma is having her 98th birthday today. She called and said offhandedly that she was at my wife's stepsister's house yesterday for their baby's birthday. There were like forty people there. good poo poo.
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Why Am I So Tired posted:My wife's friend who flew while infectious and gave his entire extended family COVID went to see it last night. "Wasn't too excited about it, but it was either that or getting sushi." lol this country only knows how to consume and spread death. Who the gently caress would turn down sushi to see the fifteenth iteration of "CRIME ALLEY KILLED MY PARENTS, I AM VENGEANCE, I AM THE NIGHT!!!"?
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Nocturtle posted:Assume some hypothetical endemic virus infects everyone annually with a 1% lifetime risk of significant disability. This is probably minimally tolerable and comparable to other everyday risks. idk, if the virus makes you forget what it was like to feel healthy, who's to say that it's not extremely good?
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/1500566933560823813 6 million, I wonder what the real number is. 12 at least right?
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T-Paine posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/1500566933560823813 india probably makes it to a couple mil by itself, so yeah
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My extremely uneducated guess is somewhere between 9 and 15 million.
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1.5m us 1.5m eu 1m Rus 4 India 1m southern hemisphere? 9m right there
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India is more like 10M but we'll never have anything close to confirmation of that
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weird how the only people braying about ending wfh forever are useless middle managers and those who live and die by commercial real estate value as these folks control our society, wfh is dead
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Insanite posted:weird how the only people braying about ending wfh forever are useless middle managers and those who live and die by commercial real estate value lmao yeah it owns we’re all gonna die to keep the real estate bubble inflated a lil longer before the next, much bigger crash
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The real number is around 20 million, based on excess death figures where available and extrapolating to other countries.
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Anyone have any leads on in-person schools that aren’t open biden and poisoned by people who think masks hurt kids? Any primers on how to start politically organizing in my area for a vocal pro-mask group? I think I am just straight hosed this fall. I’ve been keeping my kids home as my son is still pre-K but he’ll be kindergarten age in the fall and we won’t be able to handle two of them for virtual school.
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~20 million is the accurate global number - look at excess deaths. For context, AIDS has done about 36 million, but it's taken it over three decades to do it. COVID-19 has done 20 million in under three years. Lmao.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:~20 million is the accurate global number - look at excess deaths. https://twitter.com/Ted_Howze/status/1500568900609531904?t=7DLGNWrAzFJKf_fbRcJnqA&s=19
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Inspector Hound posted:https://twitter.com/Ted_Howze/status/1500568900609531904?t=7DLGNWrAzFJKf_fbRcJnqA&s=19 well so much for the trope of relying on veterinarians in the event of an apocalypse "Good luck, you injured piece of poo poo!"
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