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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

bij posted:

I really like the looks of the Buran and it is a shame that the seating is so abysmally bad. Maybe they'll do a mirror version someday.

One of the handful of Discovery designs I adore. Though to me the design screams heavy escort, not pocket dreadnought.

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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


It having 6 turn always bothered me, both because it's a tiny ship and small ships should just have better turn, but again, because low turn sucks.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

DancingShade posted:

On PC that's 500 zen a month indefinitely, so it may pay for itself if you think you'll be around long term enough to actually claim it.

On console I don't think they get the zen stipiden so lol no don't buy it.
If I take a few months off, does the zen add up or does it have to be claimed each time?

Ardryn
Oct 27, 2007

Rolling around at the speed of sound.


Syrinxx posted:

If I take a few months off, does the zen add up or does it have to be claimed each time?

it's auto-claimed.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

MikeJF posted:

That's what everyone thought but 2x01 seems like it turned right back around and came back to port. They soft rebooted and it's the best live action Trek for decades. Remains to see if they can keep it up but everyone's quite optimistic now.

I thought season 1 looked like a solid start- Picard was acting his age, I liked his cool Romulan house guests, and the tie ins to his relationship w Data seemed like the making of a nice story.

Then the rest of the season happened :-/

Basically, I need everyone to tell me at the end that actually it worked before I’ll consider re-upping a paramount subscription

Eimi posted:

It having 6 turn always bothered me, both because it's a tiny ship and small ships should just have better turn, but again, because low turn sucks.

I always thought of it as a medium/large ship. Like maybe Ambassador sized?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Fidel Cuckstro posted:

I thought season 1 looked like a solid start- Picard was acting his age, I liked his cool Romulan house guests, and the tie ins to his relationship w Data seemed like the making of a nice story.

Then the rest of the season happened :-/

Basically, I need everyone to tell me at the end that actually it worked before I’ll consider re-upping a paramount subscription

I always thought of it as a medium/large ship. Like maybe Ambassador sized?

If it's rubbish I will be the first complain.

bij
Feb 24, 2007

I don't imagine it is going to happen because CBS wants show content but it would be nice to have some new allied faction ships with the same polish the fancy Federation releases get. My first choices would be the Vulcans and Gorn.

I want snazzy new wedge battlestars and red ring ships.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

On the ship size front, I just noticed that the Cardassian flight deck carrier is only slightly larger than the Appalachia blockade runner. Shameful

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


bij posted:

I don't imagine it is going to happen because CBS wants show content but it would be nice to have some new allied faction ships with the same polish the fancy Federation releases get. My first choices would be the Vulcans and Gorn.

I want snazzy new wedge battlestars and red ring ships.

T6 D'kyr and whatever this is called



Also the Suraak.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Ship sizes are hosed all over, they basically inflated too much over time. Galaxy was meant to be enormous, now it's on the small end of large ships.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Personally I can't wait for the light frigates that are 3km wide.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Should the lexington unlock mirror shuttles? It comes equipped with one, but I can't see advanced or elites at the fleet starbase.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

MikeJF posted:

Should the lexington unlock mirror shuttles? It comes equipped with one, but I can't see advanced or elites at the fleet starbase.

It doesn't even unlock the regular ones for EC last time I checked.

MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
So since the devs gave away a full carrier what sort of traits/consoles/whatever are out there that are carrier specific ? I have Scramble Fighters on one character so I know that exists.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

MREBoy posted:

So since the devs gave away a full carrier what sort of traits/consoles/whatever are out there that are carrier specific ? I have Scramble Fighters on one character so I know that exists.

Curious about this as well. I've been very pleasantly surprised with how fun that ship is.

revtoiletduck
Aug 21, 2006
smart newbie
The big one is Superior Area Denial trait from the Mirror Engle strike wing escort, which used to be lockbox only but recently became available in the 12th anniversary Terran bundle.

revtoiletduck fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Mar 5, 2022

Jxforema
Sep 23, 2005
long live the Space Pope
Dps league has a section for carriers

https://www.sto-league.com/a-brief-guide-to-getting-the-most-out-of-hanger-pets/

Jxforema fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 6, 2022

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
lol Cryptic managed to break the Mindscape mission, this used to be a decently convincing 'infinite hallway you can't reach the end of.' Now it's just a flat texture wall.

Ardryn
Oct 27, 2007

Rolling around at the speed of sound.


Cythereal posted:

lol Cryptic managed to break the Mindscape mission, this used to be a decently convincing 'infinite hallway you can't reach the end of.' Now it's just a flat texture wall.



add it to the pile alongside new romulus's lava caves.

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
I am just back playing this game since 5 years ago, glad to be back.

EDIT: I did the leg work and answered my original question.

Foul Ole Ron fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Mar 6, 2022

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Ardryn posted:

add it to the pile alongside new romulus's lava caves.

It's been broken for so long I'm gonna miss the rave cave when it's gone.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




I kinda wish they'd just extract every texture from the game, run a 4x ESRGAN filter, and re-inject it.

Gnome de plume
Sep 5, 2006

Hell.
Fucking.
Yes.
idk lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy0IvLFDOMo

It's still happening last I looked, just dudes appearing, dying and fading out one after the other

Bar Patron
Jun 12, 2015





The good old days.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


lol at thinking STO has millions of players

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Interesting discovery: at some point since the last time I did the Delta Quadrant, the Borg Cooperative got a bit of an overhaul. They now have distinct faction and ship icons instead of just using default Borg markings. Wonder if there's any truth to the long-standing rumor of a Borg Cooperative faction being in the works.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Given where Picard is possibly going...

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Feels like the borg as a threat have been so de-fanged or de-valued over the years they would just be your quirky cyborg pals that drink engine oil lattes.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


The first ep of Picard s2 has the Borg queen show up and ask for asylum and to join the Federation. This has everyone collectively poo poo their pants in terror, especially when she still wants to negotiate how a Borg would.

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
2nd season Picard seems like it might actually be decent, I am looking forward to where they go with it!

Can I get a invite to TheNextGooneration please.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

Foul Ole Ron posted:

2nd season Picard seems like it might actually be decent, I am looking forward to where they go with it!

Can I get a invite to TheNextGooneration please.

Invite sent

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Cythereal posted:

Interesting discovery: at some point since the last time I did the Delta Quadrant, the Borg Cooperative got a bit of an overhaul. They now have distinct faction and ship icons instead of just using default Borg markings. Wonder if there's any truth to the long-standing rumor of a Borg Cooperative faction being in the works.

Only issue with that is the playable Borg is one of the last appealing things about Lifetime subs, I'm not sure they'd do that when they could do something like Cardassia

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

Given the current Terran story beats, I'd bet we'll have some kind of Terran Recruit coming up.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Those launch era borg parts you can graft onto your lifetime exclusive characters also come with launch era poly & texture work for that special flavor of low-res hideous.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Simple solution:

Keep "liberated borg" as a lifetime exclusive. Sell access to a "free borg collective citizen" or whatever in another $200 pack like with the legacy of romulus or whatever. Give it different borg grafted part options and backport those same new cosmetics onto the old lifetimer race, and give lifetimers a unique to lifetimer special super exclusive LED color for their glowing robot eye so they can keep feeling special.

The important thing is to paywall it behind $200. Bonus if you can encourage the existing lifetimers to pony up an extra $200 while making them think they're somehow special and smart for doing so. Use wording like "limited", "exclusive" and "value".

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.

Eimi posted:

The first ep of Picard s2 has the Borg queen show up and ask for asylum and to join the Federation. This has everyone collectively poo poo their pants in terror, especially when she still wants to negotiate how a Borg would.

Asylum? From what?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Bloodly posted:

Asylum? From what?

It's not revealed yet. The Borg queen tries to interface with the ship Picard is on, which because it's a new fancy ship would give her access to the prefix codes for the whole fleet. Picard panics and because the Borg don't explain themselves he decides to active the self destruct before she takes the ship over entirely, at which point he wakes up in the Not Terran Empire with Q taunting him and the episode ends.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




It's not just a queen, it's an entire ship full of borg, and they send a queen as their emissary.

They mention in the episode that the Borg were decimated and extremely messed up by what Janeway did at the end of Voyager, so it's entirely possible that the collective fractured and this is a fragment of the Borg who are fleeing.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Mar 7, 2022

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
Important point of clarification RE: Picard S2e1. The Borg Queen doesn't request amnesty directly. Instead she cites Article 15, which is how a group goes about joining the Federation. The message starts "Help us Picard", so there MIGHT be an(other) existential threat to the Borg. Seven explicitly calls out the message as a trap/deception. But absolutely nothing is clear at this point. The scene jumps from "Borg Queen successfully taking over the Stargazer" to "Picard wakes up in 'his' atrium, and Q shows up to monologue a bit."

Dave Blass (Production Designer on ST:Pic) has a Twitter thread with very light Picard spoilers and a ton of pretty ship pictures and some behind-the-scenes details on the Armada. I can't speculate about the timeline, but I expect we're getting Sagan and Excelsior II classes in-game.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1500760856677675008

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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


That Federation Miracle Worker (Tucker et. al) neck on the Excelsior II is such an abomination. I like the rest of the design but good gods does that just ruin it. If they're gonna release that at least give it the Obena parts so I can make something decent looking.



Like it kind of looks like it's trying to borrow from this Kelvin Excelsior concept, but drat the Kelvin one is so much better. It's one time where I would much rather have the underbite than the thick neck.

Eimi fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Mar 7, 2022

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