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Gamerofthegame posted:you misunderstand me; the trash you can clean through, but then you find out you're underleveled because that boss is wrecking your poo poo but your runes are stuck in there so you're compelled to try it for a bit Fair enough. Remember that save+quit puts you outside the fog door. It can even save you from falling to your death if you're really quick.
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queeb posted:1 in the weeping peninsula tower, 1 from roundtable, 2 easy to get ones in liurnia is 6 total with the 2 you start with right away, and you can get one after getting through caria manor spoiler if you want but where are the easy ones in liurnia? the first rise i found needs a gesture i don't have
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re: Sellen So am I to understand that at the end she didn't quite realize that Rennala would be right back and got turned into a face ball? That's ... some kind of an ending for her, I guess.
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Cowcaster posted:spoiler if you want but where are the easy ones in liurnia? the first rise i found needs a gesture i don't have Gesture spoiler: you get it from the dude who wants back into the academy. Find the key on top of a chandelier in the academy. You also need the 2 faced mask from the academy. Brandfarlig fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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Cowcaster posted:i will say it's kind of funny i read in an interview some place they deliberately made riding the horse around extremely fast and responsive and arcadey because it was more enjoyable that way, but even with that goal in mind if the horse is right on the edge of something and you want to turn around it has to take one step forward before it pivots That kind of stuff is so infuriating, the little quirks that have to do with how the game queues up inputs has gotten me damaged and killed a LOT. It's very noticeable with fast weapons, you'll think you're through a swipe and ready to block but miss it somehow even though you've got the button held, or what is incredibly infuriating is not actually swapping from the bow properly and having to wait precious extra time while you fire an arrow off into nothing because you accidentally tried to attack before the right part of the animation decides you've got your sword out instead. It makes you feel dumb because you know the game isn't dropping inputs, but it's just particular enough about not letting you cancel that if you get surprised by something leaping towards you it's easy to mis-time something that in other games doesn't cause you any issues.
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TeaJay posted:re: Sellen There's a lot of weird body poo poo in this game
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TeaJay posted:re: Sellen I don't think there's really enough info to actually say, but my interpretation was her whole plan was about wanting to become face ball, she did, and then renalla was like uh ok guess I'll come back in then
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Volte posted:If I have one complaint about FROM boss animations in general is that they can go from having to visibly work to heave their massive weapons at you to casually swinging them around like golf clubs from one move to the next. drat. You just put words to a feeling I've had pretty much the whole game. Dark Souls 3 had weird swing timings and pauses to trip up veteran players who could dodge roll on reaction to beat any boss that in previous entries would have been considered "fair". Elden Ring adds this new trick, though, and you've nailed it. My brain knew something was off, but I couldn't tell why the timings on some boss swings just seem like they don't fit.
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No Mods No Masters posted:I don't think there's really enough info to actually say, but my interpretation was her whole plan was about wanting to become face ball, she did, and then renalla was like uh ok guess I'll come back in then She doesn't sound entirely pleased. And the other 2 renegades also look dead/incredibly hosed up
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I do find it funny that goons see their own experiences as objectively correct. They struggled at a boss so the boss must be poorly designed. It reminds me of when the game first release and the whiny about the first real boss and when I got there he turned out to be a pretty standard first souls boss. Kind of slow with one long combo that literally could not be more telegraphed
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Inzombiac posted:I'm trying to find the "Four unlocated demigods" before I go too far in the capital (I'm at the Erdtree chamber already) but cannot figure out where they could be. Forget about the demigods for now and continue the story.
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is that the beast priest blocking my path to the volcano manor? wtf dude go back to your hole
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also stop being mad at me cause your prick bodyguard picked a fight with me
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hazardousmouse posted:is that the beast priest blocking my path to the volcano manor? wtf dude go back to your hole No.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I do find it funny that goons see their own experiences as objectively correct. lvl 10 goon with non upgraded weapon: man when is from going to nerf Margit, I don't know what else I can do in this vast open world
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Anyone willing to give a hint on how to get to the lower area of Stormveil? I was able to find one path down to a miniboss, but not whatever leads to the elevator back up.
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Anyone know why there's 2 sets of pvp fingers? One from volcano manor crew and one from mask dude that slices your finger or whatever (recusant and bloody?). The descriptions seem the same.
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I see a lot of criticism of this game that seems very valid and a lot that seems pretty laughably dumb, often coming from people who have just chugged 100+ hours of ER in a week. I have barely begun my own journey as a Tarnished because I started ER and decided I had to finish the DS3 DLCs and play Sekiro before going through ER while I wait for a patch or two to improve performance on my potato PC. Now, with that caveat aside - has there ever been an open world game or any game of this magnitude that isn't guilty of reusing assets? I've literally been reading every post in this thread for a few days now and it seems like ER is on a scale that hasn't been attempted by many, if any games before it. Certainly the reuse of assets and bosses is nothing new to the Souls trilogy, at least - it confuses me a little for it to come up as a criticism so often this time around, when it's been there all along and is obviously a way of compensating (I assume, I don't work in game dev or anything) for the otherwise insane scale of the game. I've heard that a lot of catacombs and smaller dungeons are very similar, but is it a really egregious problem that will grate any player's nerves or is it the kind of thing that is probably less noticeable if you put your 150 hours of ER in over the course of say, a month or two instead of 10 days? Anyway, just curious to see different perspectives on this because it's come up a lot and seems to bother a lot of people and be completely irrelevant to the experience of others.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I do find it funny that goons see their own experiences as objectively correct. Elden Ring is good but it's not perfect, like Bloodborne is
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wait for it posted:Anyone know why there's 2 sets of pvp fingers? One from volcano manor crew and one from mask dude that slices your finger or whatever (recusant and bloody?). not an expert on this but i think one is consumable (think cracked red eye orb) and one is reusable (full red eye orb)
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CharlestheHammer posted:I do find it funny that goons see their own experiences as objectively correct. It is a grand tradition when discussing games on the internet for people to insist that their personal taste is the same as objectively good game design and it drives me up a goddamn wall lol
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Macaluso posted:Elden Ring is good but it's not perfect, like
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Tosk posted:I've heard that a lot of catacombs and smaller dungeons are very similar, but is it a really egregious problem that will grate any player's nerves or is it the kind of thing that is probably less noticeable if you put your 150 hours of ER in over the course of say, a month or two instead of 10 days? I think it probably depends on how completionist you are. The catacomb and cave tilesets both have a very small pool of rooms (and, honestly, a pretty small pool of bosses) so if you''re trying to clear the map out you will see the same rooms and layouts over and over and over, capped off with "That guy you fought before, but now he has some minions" or "That guy you fought before, but now he inflicts rot". The main story dungeons are a lot less egregious about it, so if you're just doing those with a couple side dungeons along the way it won't stand out nearly as much.
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Harrow posted:It is a grand tradition when discussing games on the internet for people to insist that their personal taste is the same as objectively good game design and it drives me up a goddamn wall lol it is my own grand tradition where when a goon looks at a game like elden ring and says "i could have designed this better than from software" i instantaneously disregard everything they have to say
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Would it bother you less if people put "I think" before "Radahn is badly designed"
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Snake Maze posted:I think it probably depends on how completionist you are. The catacomb and cave tilesets both have a very small pool of rooms (and, honestly, a pretty small pool of bosses) so if you''re trying to clear the map out you will see the same rooms and layouts over and over and over, capped off with "That guy you fought before, but now he has some minions" or "That guy you fought before, but now he inflicts rot". while this is true it's also pretty true of those procedurally generated chalice dungeons in bloodborne and no one seems to mind that.
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Radahn makes me want to stop playing this game
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Earwicker posted:while this is true it's also pretty true of those procedurally generated chalice dungeons in bloodborne and no one seems to mind that. As long as Elden doesnt have fetid rotted cursed catacombs I won’t mind.
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I wasn't able to play for a week because I was dogsitting, and just came back and skipped 9000 posts in this thread. Sounds like I missed some really insufferable discourse  I'm trying to find a talisman, so I can work towards using this cool new dragonfire incantation I just got. Where is the best place to get one before Margit? I'm just now exploring the Weeping Peninsula, went south to unlock the first site of grace inside the castle.
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Barudak posted:There are two other endings. You may have been locked out of one (not sure, I assume you have to talk to the people involved to progress) and the other requires you to co-operate with a real piece of poo poo Yeah I assume there's a default ending just letting this melina freak do her thing but I don't like her. I think I am also working towards another alternate ending with this haligtree medallion business.
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Snake Maze posted:I think it probably depends on how completionist you are. The catacomb and cave tilesets both have a very small pool of rooms (and, honestly, a pretty small pool of bosses) so if you''re trying to clear the map out you will see the same rooms and layouts over and over and over, capped off with "That guy you fought before, but now he has some minions" or "That guy you fought before, but now he inflicts rot". It's not ruining my experience or anything, but I came across "tree sentinel, but there's two now" and just went "no thank you". The boss reuse is only a minor complaint in the grand scheme of things
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slave to my cravings posted:Radahn makes me want to stop playing this game Sit back and let the summons play it for you instead.
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Dandywalken posted:So are Greatbows worth using in a Strength build? Was thinking of giving Radahn's one a try, unless the Golem one is preferable Can I expect >500 damage a shot lategame? Video Nasty posted:There is this complete rear end in a top hat archer up on a ridge in Caelid that can fire a purple arrow up into the sky and it rains down a bunch of soul-arrows. Is there any spell or move that I can do like that later in the game? It looks cool as hell. Yes, and yes. Golem one is good but weighs a ton and doesn't scale, but you can get it super early
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Earwicker posted:while this is true it's also pretty true of those procedurally generated chalice dungeons in bloodborne and no one seems to mind that. My recollection is that lots of people complained that the chalice dungeons were samey.
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Macaluso posted:Would it bother you less if people put "I think" before "Radahn is badly designed" No How is he badly designed
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Macaluso posted:Would it bother you less if people put "I think" before "Radahn is badly designed" There are certainly think I think I would have changed if I was designing some bosses but this is the first Fromsoft game that 1. I've not given up and 2.beaten bosses with no prior knowledge so they can't be too bullshit.
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I know there's a quest but with the Dung Eater I told him to leave his jail and he said he was going to murder, curse and destroy families. I couldn't let him leave. now I have gross tooth armor and a cool sword!
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Sit back and let the summons play it for you instead. They seem like they're there more for a distraction than any amount of Damage?
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Inzombiac posted:I know there's a quest but with the Dung Eater I did the same thing as you btw.
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