Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

"Game of Phones"

World Famous W posted:

Very rarely to we get a sequel or storyline to kelly comics, but oh do I want one now

Kit Walker posted:

Don’t put words in my mouth. At the risk of repeating myself, I’m talking about the root causes of Putin’s popularity. About the weird mix of an inferiority complex and Russian orthodox-flavored reactionary thinking that permeates modern Russian culture. There are people who grew up in the USSR who genuinely believe that in the Soviet Union there was no cancer, no drug use, no prostitution, no homosexuality, and who deeply want to go back to those times, minus the bad parts that only happened, in their eyes, because the wrong people were in charge

Kit Walker posted:

There are people who grew up in the USSR who genuinely believe that in the Soviet Union there was no cancer, no drug use, no prostitution, no homosexuality, and who deeply want to go back to those times, minus the bad parts that only happened, in their eyes, because the wrong people were in charge

Xander77 posted:

That's actually correct, though? Just include "no homelessness" \ "no unemployment" for the trifecta.

Pants Donkey posted:

If nothing else, Ishida’s consistent and long-running output gives you one of the most well-documented timelines of the terf to fascist pipeline.

Groke posted:

Ahaha. No.

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…AND JUST LIKE THAT, COVID WAS GONE.

You’ve probably noticed the fake news heads are no longer talking about Covid or the vaccine. They are not urging people to get a booster shot or wear a mask. What happened to the super spreaders? And most important, what happened to the omnipresent Fauci? “Mr. Science” has vanished into the ether. What happened to his deadly virus?

Bow wow! Time to wag the dog!

Forget covid, war is back on the menu, boys!

Why are media loudly beating their war drums now? What changed? The whole Russia invading Ukraine thing seemed to come out of nowhere. What better way to distract We The People from anger-inducing behavior towards the Biden regime than screaming, “Russian man bad!”

The media are trying to distract you from important stories such as:

• Biden’s HHS paid major media organizations including cable TV news stations, publications, digital media companies, and many more to promote the Covid-19 vaccine narrative. If you wondered why FOX News and others flipped a switch and pounded the “get your vaccine” narrative endlessly…now you know.
  
• The UK Health Security Agency released staggering numbers revealing fully vaccinated people account for nine out of ten covid deaths. Deaths are rising rapidly among the vaccinated. You are not supposed to know this and just shut up, get in line, and get jabbed.
  
• The WEF Great Reset is in progress. They are banning our pipelines and destroying our oil and gas industry with no new drilling on Federal lands, which is helping to cause the highest gas prices in years. They want to force you into the Green New Deal because they know you will not go willingly. They are blaming Putin for high gas prices, forgetting that from the minute Biden walked into the oval office, he banned the Keystone pipeline.
  
• The people are waking up. They don’t want you to know that truth. The People’s Convoy has blocked the DC beltway in a gigantic grass roots protest of government mandates and tyranny. This is happening all over the world but you must be prevented from seeing your fellow humans rising up.
  
• Inflation is the highest in 40 years. Biden is making Jimmy Carter look like a piker. Food prices are already skyrocketing and planned food shortages are just around the corner. Stock up and prepare now if you have not already.
  
• Biden’s border is wide open. Millions of illegals are rushing in to claim their free goodies. The Democrats certainly know how to collapse the country from within.
  
• Election fraud is back in the news. The latest findings from Wisconsin include calls to decertify the 2020 election and take back their electoral votes.
  
• Pfizer has released seven pages of adverse affects from taking their experiment DNA altering fluid. We should not refer to it as a vaccine. No wonder they had to whip up a distraction.
  
• Most of all, Ukraine is a giant money laundering operation for the NWO. You think Ukraine isn’t corrupt? Let’s not forget that Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma, a giant Ukraine Gas company. Hunter knew zero about the gas industry but he certainly knew how to kick up 10% of the graft to his father, aka “The Big Guy.”
  

There’s plenty more, but you get the point. Always watch what their other hand is doing. It’s almost always up to no good.

— Tina

Xander77 posted:

Did you have some sort of point to make?

...

Was it the ever pertinent and intelligent observation that all that poo poo showed up as the regime was collapsing but still technically present?

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The UK Health Security Agency released staggering numbers revealing fully vaccinated people account for nine out of ten covid deaths.

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

"Game of Phones"

Raised By Birds posted:

Kit Walker posted:

There has never been a society of any appreciable size without prostitution. I might not need the qualifier, either

Drug use has also been present pretty much everywhere, even if you're not counting alcohol as a drug. Yeah, the USSR cracked down pretty hard on these things, but they were always there

Xander77 posted:

If you don't see the difference between the elite having access to courtesans and imported drugs, and the average citizen seeing prostitutes and drug addicts on their way to work... then I'm not sure what we're having a discussion about. The average quality internet argument of "can you prove the sky is blue? It's not blue when it's cloudy, you know", I suppose.

Xander77 posted:

That's actually correct, though? Just include "no homelessness" \ "no unemployment" for the trifecta.

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Mad Science With the 2022 election coming up, Fauci may be losing his luster among Democrats.

Raised By Birds posted:

Henry Payne

Raised By Birds posted:

Michael Ramirez

Raised By Birds posted:

Henry Payne

Raised By Birds posted:

Henry Payne

Raised By Birds posted:

Henry Payne

Athas posted:

NATO is more energised, united, and active than in any time in my living memory. They are acting with far more competence than Russia. Is Payne just upset that NATO isn't also driving armoured vroom-vrooms into Ukraine?

Dirk the Average posted:

When you say things like this, that's absolutely not the case. Even if the USSR were some sort of utopia (and it was not), people still fall through the cracks. If you have data that points to a significant reduction of those things, sure, that might have been a thing, but there's no situation where you're going to completely eliminate drug use, prostitution, homelessness and unemployment in any large modern society.

Xander77 posted:

I mean... the original post didn't bother to provide any data. And any data I could provide is from USSR authorities, who are notoriously untrustworthy by reason of being the USSR authorities.

So all I have to fall back on is the overwhelmingly broad and obvious consensus regarding how the citizens of the USSR were shocked and appalled to see drug addicts, homeless persons and prostitutes out on the streets as the regime was ready to collapse, since none of them believed these were possible in a Socialist society. And how for the vast majority of them, this was the very first time they've encountered any of these problems at all, much less out in the open.

But since the post that started this discussion went with "no they didn't! La la la, I can't hear you, none of you can testify to your own lived experience", I guess that's not a very good option?

Look. You can make a persuasive argument about the safety and stability provided by the USSR not being worth the oppression and human rights abuses. You can note that the regime collapsed not because it started oppressing people less, but as a result of internal contradictions and lack of faith by the youngest generation of future leaders. You can point out that Putin's version of USSR-lite doesn't even bring back those positive aspects that people are nostalgic for, just militarism and human rights abuses.

But if you're going with "nooooooooo, everything, and I do mean everything, about the Soviet Union was bad bad bad, and its collapse didn't make things worse for anyone", then... I guess you're flinging your poo on the internet, as is the custom, and there's no point in talking to you.

Kikas posted:

I also don't understand bringing such things up when the regime used to loving open fire at people who were protesting it's decisions, put dissidents into prisons and block work promotions to people who didn't join the Party and basically became snitches for their colleagues.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Can we have a Kellies nomination for "thing that isn't even happening" cause I feel like we get a lot of those and this is definitely up there. Fossil fuel free NATO? Really?

I guess the gaslighting category comes close but does it even count as gas lighting if you just turn the gas lamp off and insist it was always pitch black

Xander77 posted:

I mean... the original post didn't bother to provide any data. And any data I could provide is from USSR authorities, who are notoriously untrustworthy by reason of being the USSR authorities.

So all I have to fall back on is the overwhelmingly broad and obvious consensus regarding how the citizens of the USSR were shocked and appalled to see drug addicts, homeless persons and prostitutes out on the streets as the regime was ready to collapse, since none of them believed these were possible in a Socialist society. And how for the vast majority of them, this was the very first time they've encountered any of these problems at all, much less out in the open.

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But since the post that started this discussion went with "no they didn't! La la la, I can't hear you, none of you can testify to your own lived experience", I guess that's not a very good option?

Look. You can make a persuasive argument about the safety and stability provided by the USSR not being worth the oppression and human rights abuses. You can note that the regime collapsed not because it started oppressing people less, but as a result of internal contradictions and lack of faith by the youngest generation of future leaders. You can point out that Putin's version of USSR-lite doesn't even bring back those positive aspects that people are nostalgic for, just militarism and human rights abuses.

But if you're going with "nooooooooo, everything, and I do mean everything, about the Soviet Union was bad bad bad, and its collapse didn't make things worse for anyone", then... I guess you're flinging your poo on the internet, as is the custom, and there's no point in talking to you.

Srice posted:

I realized Horsey hasn't been posted here in a lil while so I looked up what he has been up to lately, got mad about it, and misery loves company so everyone else has to see it too:

By popular demand posted:

My immediate take: homeless people have no support or place to go, which leads to drug use.
Horsey probable take: why can't the government just take the filthy homeless away somewhere dark and remote?

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At long last, Seattle police are making their presence known at Third Avenue and Pine Street.

The area around that intersection in downtown Seattle has become a meeting place and semi-permanent residence for those addicted to drugs, drug sellers, shoplifters and gang members. During the two years of pandemic, the situation became more acute because office workers, shoppers and tourists disappeared from the streets. Yet, even before COVID-19 sent everyone home to socially distance, the Third and Pike location was a seedy and sometimes dangerous mess.

Two murders in the area within the last week finally pushed Seattle tolerance too far. The cops will now be patrolling the scene 24 hours a day, and that is a relief to shop owners like Amir Yousuf, who has run International Cigar and Tobacco on Third Avenue between Pike and Pine streets for 25 years. He told The Times that he has had to fight off 10 to 20 shoplifters a day, and the entrance to his store has often been blocked by clusters of drug dealers plying their trade.

Anyone who has recently walked that direct route between the shopping district and Pike Place Market will know exactly what Yousuf is talking about.

Yes, problems at Third and Pine and other parts of town are the result of substance abuse, mental-health issues, poverty and other social problems that cannot be resolved simply by throwing people in jail. But, until we find ways to address all those challenges, we cannot ignore the crisis on our streets. Criminal behavior can be explained by economic and social inequities and failures, but it cannot be an excuse to do nothing.

The city streets belong to all of us, not just the few who want to claim those streets to do harm, either to themselves or to those around them.

Srice posted:

The Horsey take is even worse than that of course.

Horsey posted:

Yes, problems at Third and Pine and other parts of town are the result of substance abuse, mental-health issues, poverty and other social problems that cannot be resolved simply by throwing people in jail. But, until we find ways to address all those challenges, we cannot ignore the crisis on our streets. Criminal behavior can be explained by economic and social inequities and failures, but it cannot be an excuse to do nothing.

By popular demand posted:

gently caress you Horsey, you can't can't call for police crackdown on the homeless AND be an enlightened liberal.
Just join the GOP you piece of poo poo.