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FulsomFrank posted:Good weekend of gaming. The color coding in the regions is to make certain things more obvious, like which provinces are floodplains, and so there can be more than 1 tech to improve the pop max of a region, so early game the lush mountains where early peoples thrived are roughly equal to major river based civilizations, but later on with tech you can take the floodplain regions to the moon. edit: please let me know if this is not the appropriate thread for asking that kind of question. I posted in the boardgame dev thread but its been really quiet there. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Mar 7, 2022 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:edit: please let me know if this is not the appropriate thread for asking that kind of question. I posted in the boardgame dev thread but its been really quiet there. At the same point games narrower topics such as specific games like Dominion and Netrunner and other games have their own threads but they also get talked about here on occasion. So it's not 100% either. Maybe some other goons can show some love to the Board Game Design Thread? And are there any other broad topic threads that might be relevant enough to board goons to warrant perhaps linking in the OP outside of the KS thread, Design thread and the Deals Thread?
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I had no idea Mega Civ was a thing, that is amazing. Having played a ton of vintage Tresham Civ, I totally agree about the province size and density. I've always wanted a game like Tresham civ with the pop growth and management + city building, straight forward combat, and buying tech.... but with a faster playtime, better map, and a less punishing calamity mechanic (so like what happened with the winner in your game not getting any calamities... hrmm, interesting correlation?). I havent found one yet, so as a hobby and creative outlet I've started making my own just for shits, and I taught myself the free photoshop, GIMP, to make the map. I'm curious what you think of the map (work in progress, please ignore the little bits of color sticking out from some of the province lines): Friend, any Civ related content is great to see and always welcome. I'm not an expert by any stretch but I think I've played enough games to get a decent understanding of what I like and don't. My skin-deep assessment of the the map you've posted is that it looks quite promising and it's interesting that you're going with that variation in agriculture because it's a similar idea to something my friend and I are working out in our own personal Civ project. My only criticism is that from the look of things a lot if not most of the territories you've got down there are hyper connected to other ones - in other words, you've got every province/territory a wobbly hex that connects to another province that is also a wobbly hex... Unsure if this is because it's a preliminary design choice or not but look at your Tresham Civ board again and note how disparate territories are with regard to how many other territories they touch as well as the relative pop caps to them. You also might want to be a little more erratic with the pop cap on the territories too. Again, look at the original boards and note the lack of congruity between the numbers. It's rare to see a giant group of 1s, 2s, 3s all in one big stretch. Not saying you can't do it but spreading them out better combined with my advice regarding the territory sizes might do wonders. That's a fun part about designing maps because you get to play around with the relative "safety" of certain places versus their utility for cities, populations, movement etc. Anyway, just what I noticed off the top of my head. No clue about what your design goals are but I'm definitely interested and have always wondered why 1829/30 spawned an entire sub-genre yet Civ was left to languish (comparatively).
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I had no idea Mega Civ was a thing, that is amazing. Having played a ton of vintage Tresham Civ, I totally agree about the province size and density. I've always wanted a game like Tresham civ with the pop growth and management + city building, straight forward combat, and buying tech.... but with a faster playtime, better map, and a less punishing calamity mechanic (so like what happened with the winner in your game not getting any calamities... hrmm, interesting correlation?). I havent found one yet, so as a hobby and creative outlet I've started making my own just for shits, and I taught myself the free photoshop, GIMP, to make the map. Considering your comment about playing Crete, I'm curious what you think of the map (work in progress, please ignore the little bits of color sticking out from some of the province lines): So every designer who enjoyed Civilization wants this. There have been many attempts to get there, but none so far have really captured the reason we loved Civ so much. If you didn't know about Mega Civ, then I would suggest you get more familiar with some of the offerings out there such as Clash of Culture Monumental, Western Empires, and the upcoming Eastern Empires. Not saying that CoC is what you want to do of course. Civilization New Dawn is another game in that space. One of the things about designing board games is assuming you want to sell your design you need to be aware of what's out there. Jennifer Schlickbernd, Co-designer Advanced Civilization
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Still waiting on my copy of Western Civ to ship out from the KS campaign last year. Haven't heard anything for a while now Shes Not Impressed posted:Had some friends over and decided to show them War of the Ring. We lost to a Free People's military victory. I've always been curious how War would work as a team game. Was it enjoyable for both sides?
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Infinitum posted:Still waiting on my copy of Western Civ to ship out from the KS campaign last year. Haven't heard anything for a while now I've played half a dozen games of 2v2 WotR and it's been a blast every time. Lots of shouting, blaming teammates, intoning about how the kings of the east are coming to destroy the free peoples, and maybe a little more chaotic strategically than 1v1, the dice are a little exacerbated.
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Infinitum posted:Still waiting on my copy of Western Civ to ship out from the KS campaign last year. Haven't heard anything for a while now I missed the inline quote and thought you were asking about War, the game we played as kids with a 52 card deck.
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Charterstone was one of the most memorable board gaming experiences I had, probably because we had a full amount of players. Some of it was accidental, like me accidentally getting the character that gets pumpkins and cats because I'm basic and I ran charity Magic events at the LGS for the cat shelter I volunteer for. But a lot of it was laughing at the new rules we uncovered at the start or end of each session or coming up with names for our charters, roles, etc. I thought the game did a good job of keeping everyone engaged; even if you think you're losing, there was always the chance that the scenario card had some kind of catch-up mechanic in it. The balance was way off and the excitement of what would happen next was blunted by watching the blue and red players do laps around everyone else who was playing fairly. It had lots of charm, but I don't know how you'd fix the blue/red imbalance unless you had total board game newbies who wanted to play with you, in which case let 'em have the cheat codes. The coins are neat and generic enough that I now use them for lots of other games I play solo.
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Infinitum posted:Still waiting on my copy of Western Civ to ship out from the KS campaign last year. Haven't heard anything for a while now Really? Where are you? I'm in SoCal and I've had mine since the start of the pandemic. We played it last year, I thought it was a good iteration on Advanced Civ.
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Infinitum posted:Still waiting on my copy of Western Civ to ship out from the KS campaign last year. Haven't heard anything for a while now We skipped the 4 player rules since the other two players were completely new. We just worked together. The new guy on FP side rolled so many 5s and 6s in battles that wave after wave of orcs broke upon Minas Tirith. We pulled Isengard armies south to siege Helm's Deep and suddenly Gandalf the White shows up in Fangorn and Saruman is kaput. They really picked up on how theme matched mechanics, too.
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Mayveena posted:Really? Where are you? I'm in SoCal and I've had mine since the start of the pandemic. We played it last year, I thought it was a good iteration on Advanced Civ. The Merry Old Land of Aus
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Infinitum posted:The Merry Old Land of Aus Awwww. I'm sorry you don't have your copy. I even signed up for Eastern Empires. Looking forward to that one!
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Hey, just wondering - what's the best (and not too long, hopefully) video introducing the mechanics of Dune (2019)? Since I'm gonna be playing it with a group on the long weekend here, and none of the others have played before. (I think I played at the end of 2019, so it's been a while!) Hopefully with a YouTube crash-course under our belts we can get through quickly and easily, compared to the alternative anyway!
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Major Isoor posted:Hey, just wondering - what's the best (and not too long, hopefully) video introducing the mechanics of Dune (2019)? Since I'm gonna be playing it with a group on the long weekend here, and none of the others have played before. (I think I played at the end of 2019, so it's been a while!) Hopefully with a YouTube crash-course under our belts we can get through quickly and easily, compared to the alternative anyway! RTFM has one. He's not one of the bigger board game rules channels like Watch It Played or Gaming Rules, but his videos are quality stuff. His Root videos helped my group immensely. Just check the description for the few minor corrections.
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Magnetic North posted:RTFM has one. He's not one of the bigger board game rules channels like Watch It Played or Gaming Rules, but his videos are quality stuff. His Root videos helped my group immensely. Just check the description for the few minor corrections. Thanks for that! I've forwarded it on
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I would suggest reading the Dune FAQ as well or at least keep it handy: https://www.gf9games.com/dune/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Dune-FAQ-Nov-2020.pdf Edit: The link to the FAQ in RTMs video description is to the oldest one, not the latest (Nov. 2020). Joe Chill fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Mar 8, 2022 |
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Magnetic North posted:It's fine. I'm personally of the opinion to keep things in specialty threads when they exist, but obviously they are also commonly quite slow with lower visibility. So, if there were an involved back and forth discussion, that probably would be better in the smaller thread, but a briefer chat is fine for here too. FulsomFrank posted:Friend, any Civ related content is great to see and always welcome. I'm not an expert by any stretch but I think I've played enough games to get a decent understanding of what I like and don't. Mayveena posted:So every designer who enjoyed Civilization wants this. There have been many attempts to get there, but none so far have really captured the reason we loved Civ so much. If you didn't know about Mega Civ, then I would suggest you get more familiar with some of the offerings out there such as Clash of Culture Monumental, Western Empires, and the upcoming Eastern Empires. Not saying that CoC is what you want to do of course. Civilization New Dawn is another game in that space.
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Major Isoor posted:Hey, just wondering - what's the best (and not too long, hopefully) video introducing the mechanics of Dune (2019)? Since I'm gonna be playing it with a group on the long weekend here, and none of the others have played before. (I think I played at the end of 2019, so it's been a while!) Hopefully with a YouTube crash-course under our belts we can get through quickly and easily, compared to the alternative anyway! There's also a few playthroughs by MCDM, if you want a more thorough refresher for yourself.
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Has anybody played Imperium: Classic and/or Imperium: Legends? I'm looking for a new deck builder and the theme is intriguing. The German edition just came out but the second hand market already seems to be flooded with it.
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Selecta84 posted:Has anybody played Imperium: Classic and/or Imperium: Legends? I have played Imperium: Classics, once. I hope to play it again. The rulebook that comes with Classics also addresses Legends, so I know something about both. Things I like are: (1) it attempts to say something about what happens when a culture shifts to being a, well, civilization (i.e. based on cities), namely that some of the old ways hang around and some don't; (2) it attempts to differentiate these changes by culture, with some never shifting from "barbaric" to "civilized," staying barbaric or starting civilized; (3) the different cultures have different playstyles and goals; (4) variable starts increase replayability; (5) good, colorful art that varies through the cultures; and (6) ancient world! yay! Things I don't like are: (1) set up is astonishingly fiddly, such that the rules for setup may even be longer than the core gameplay rules; (2) the game itself has a lot of bookkeeping. The "real game" (per my one playthrough) is an exercise in cycling through your deck, and there are a number of different and I think inelegant ways to limit the speed with which you do so; (3) the game takes as its starting point the idea that moving toward civilization and capitalism and imperialism are "advancement" (though it does somewhat acknowledge this); (4) it's explicitly ahistorical (Olmecs v. Atlanteans? sure ok why not); and (5) because of (1) and (2), it has a less favorable teaching-to-fun ratio.
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canyoneer posted:Snip This was a really cool post. Thank you for sharing.
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Any thoughts on Small City Deluxe on Kickstarter? I'm interested but I've also got a stack of unplayed Clinic and I'm not sure if I need more.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Any thoughts on Small City Deluxe on Kickstarter? I'm interested but I've also got a stack of unplayed Clinic and I'm not sure if I need more. Small City is a decent game and not too dry, but it's in my sell pile. I certainly wouldn't feel a need to own both it and Clinic.
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Lol at the art reading so much better than Clinic because Kwanchai understands you can portray isometric art on a non-isometric grid. I don’t think Ian O’toole really values functional design and just goes hog wild with aesthetics.
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We've scheduled round 2 of Nemesis this weekend, and one of my players linked this in the group Discord today
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homullus posted:I have played Imperium: Classics, once. I hope to play it again. The rulebook that comes with Classics also addresses Legends, so I know something about both. Things I like are: Thanks. I think I will try to get a game in before I might purchase it.
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Does anyone have a good reference guide for Nemesis? The manuals a bit of a mess. Is there also a list of what cards are in each draw pile? Was trying to find 'Chemicals' and guessed the wrong pile twice
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Infinitum posted:Does anyone have a good reference guide for Nemesis? The manuals a bit of a mess. Esoteric Order has a guide for it - https://www.orderofgamers.com/downloads/Nemesis_v2.3.pdf Still looks a bit wall-o-text, but for games I'm actually familiar with, the Order always seems to do a good job of it.
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Infinitum posted:Is there also a list of what cards are in each draw pile? Was trying to find 'Chemicals' and guessed the wrong pile twice This guy made a list of the base game cards from 2018 that shows the draw piles. There is a lot of crossover. Chemicals look to be solely yellow but energy charges are in red and yellow, and clothes are in green and yellow for instance. I think the expansions add more as well.
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Infinitum posted:Does anyone have a good reference guide for Nemesis? The manuals a bit of a mess. There's also an app for the game now that keeps track of the amount to put in the sack and what gets pulled out when you have to draw one of them aliens. Also i think turn order and some other thing, haven't been able to try it out myself yet.
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Cheers all
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For the Canadian goons here, 401Games appears to have done a massive restocking. I’m seeing gems such as Pax Pamir 2e, War of the Ring 2e, and Food Chain Magnate!
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This War of Mine is selling all remaining Kickstarter Editions and will donate all revenue to Ukrainequote:Important information about the sale:
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Jcam posted:For the Canadian goons here, 401Games appears to have done a massive restocking. I’m seeing gems such as Pax Pamir 2e, War of the Ring 2e, and Food Chain Magnate! And like ten copies of 1830 for those who have been struggling to track down a copy because it's here one day and the next gone for like a year.
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It's been a minute since I posted on SA. First off, I bought Pan Am for my son and me to play, strictly for thematic reasons (he loves airplanes, especially the big commercial ones). But it is actually a pretty fun game. Any goons played/playing it? My question: Where are my solo gamers at? Talk to me about my options. My kids are increasingly less interested in board gaming with me and my wife never was lol. What's the current state of the industry, i.e., what's the new bg hotness? I've not been keeping up.
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I've enjoyed under falling skies and final girl which are games designed as a solo. Final girl is a kickstarter but I've been using the TTS version which has all of season 1 for free. (See the OP about berserk games and TTS tho before supporting/buying it). Other games that I've enjoyed playing solo multihand/character are sleeping gods and spirit island.
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Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective works well solo if you want a hours of lying on the floor staring at the ceiling You can solo most (multiplayer) “RPG/adventure in a box” games as well, Sleeping gods, kingdom death, too many bones, Gloomhaven, etc. all work.
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vulturesrow posted:First off, I bought Pan Am for my son and me to play, strictly for thematic reasons (he loves airplanes, especially the big commercial ones). But it is actually a pretty fun game. Any goons played/playing it? I have not played it, but I see to recall the broader board game world appreciated it for what it was; a simple route building game with a very simple stock system. Pan Am is from design collective Prospero Hall, who focus on creating licensed games, but they also tend to make games that include more modern game design philosophies and are not just roll-and-move junk. This isn't to say all their stuff is great, but Horrified and Villianous are both very popular and comparatively mainstream in the hobbiest world. vulturesrow posted:Where are my solo gamers at? Talk to me about my options. I'm not a solo gamer (yet) but one thread-approved solo-able game is Sprawlopolis a very small, very clever city building game. (I have not personally played it but I should rectify that.) Spiteski posted:Final girl is a kickstarter but I've been using the TTS version which has all of season 1 for free. (See the OP about berserk games and TTS tho before supporting/buying it). Note: the publisher of Final Girl also features in the naughty list in the OP due to endorsing crypto bullshit, and apparently continues to try to pump up that downline. Also, even though I fully enthusiastically proselytized the Fourth box, SHCD: The Baker Street Irregulars, I don't know that game would be be all that much fun alone. Two minds mean you can support each other when you miss things, work out theories, read aloud, etc.
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vulturesrow posted:It's been a minute since I posted on SA. I have Pan Am and enjoy it, and it has been appreciated by my friends as well at a few game nights where I brought it out.
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vulturesrow posted:
Biggest hotness is Ark Nova, Capstone Games publisher. It's been delayed to mid April for retail because of shipping issues but if you don't mind paying MSRP you can get it now from Capstone Games. Boonlake from them has been popular as well. There are probably other games that are lighter than those, but others will have to help you with those, as I'm mostly a heavy games person.
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