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Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


I miss him already

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Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Japan, welcome to the resistance

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
Doctor Doom back in the house.

https://michael-hudson.com/2022/03/the-american-empire-self-destructs/

Michael Hudson posted:

The American Empire self-destructs.
But nobody thought that it would happen this fast.

Empires often follow the course of a Greek tragedy, bringing about precisely the fate that they sought to avoid. That certainly is the case with the American Empire as it dismantles itself in not-so-slow motion.

The basic assumption of economic and diplomatic forecasting is that every country will act in its own self-interest. Such reasoning is of no help in today’s world. Observers across the political spectrum are using phrases like “shooting themselves in their own foot” to describe U.S. diplomatic confrontation with Russia and allies alike.

For more than a generation the most prominent U.S. diplomats have warned about what they thought would represent the ultimate external threat: an alliance of Russia and China dominating Eurasia. America’s economic sanctions and military confrontation has driven them together, and is driving other countries into their emerging Eurasian orbit.

American economic and financial power was expected to avert this fate. During the half-century since the United States went off gold in 1971, the world’s central banks have operated on the Dollar Standard, holding their international monetary reserves in the form of U.S. Treasury securities, U.S. bank deposits and U.S. stocks and bonds. The resulting Treasury-bill Standard has enabled America to finance its foreign military spending and investment takeover of other countries simply by creating dollar IOUs. U.S. balance-of-payments deficits end up in the central banks of payments-surplus countries as their reserves, while Global South debtors need dollars to pay their bondholders and conduct their foreign trade.

This monetary privilege – dollar seignorage – has enabled U.S. diplomacy to impose neoliberal policies on the rest of the world, without having to use much military force of its own except to grab Near Eastern oil.

The recent escalation U.S. sanctions blocking Europe, Asia and other countries from trade and investment with Russia, Iran and China has imposed enormous opportunity costs – the cost of lost opportunities – on U.S. allies. And the recent confiscation of the gold and foreign reserves of Venezuela, Afghanistan and now Russia, along the targeted grabbing of bank accounts of wealthy foreigners (hoping to win their hearts and minds, along with recovery of their sequestered accounts), has ended the idea that dollar holdings or those in its sterling and euro NATO satellites are a safe investment haven when world economic conditions become shaky.

So I am somewhat chagrined as I watch the speed at which this U.S.-centered financialized system has de-dollarized over the span of just a year or two. The basic theme of my Super Imperialism has been how, for the past fifty years, the U.S. Treasury-bill standard has channeled foreign savings to U.S. financial markets and banks, giving Dollar Diplomacy a free ride. I thought that de-dollarization would be led by China and Russia moving to take control of their economies to avoid the kind of financial polarization that is imposing austerity on the United States. But U.S. officials are forcing them to overcome whatever hesitancy they had to de-dollarize.

I had expected that the end of the dollarized imperial economy would come about by other countries breaking away. But that is not what has happened. U.S. diplomats have chosen to end international dollarization themselves, while helping Russia build up its own means of self-reliant agricultural and industrial production. This global fracture process actually has been going on for some years now, starting with the sanctions blocking America’s NATO allies and other economic satellites from trading with Russia. For Russia, these sanctions had the same effect that protective tariffs would have had.

Russia had remained too enthralled by free-market ideology to take steps to protect its own agriculture or industry. The United States provided the help that was needed by imposing domestic self-reliance on Russia (via sanctions). When the Baltic states lost the Russian market for cheese and other farm products, Russia quickly created its own cheese and dairy sector – while becoming the world’s leading grain exporter.

Russia is discovering (or is on the verge of discovering) that it does not need U.S. dollars as backing for the ruble’s exchange rate. Its central bank can create the rubles needed to pay domestic wages and finance capital formation. The U.S. confiscations thus may finally lead Russia to end neoliberal monetary philosophy, as Sergei Glaziev has long been advocating in favor of MMT.

The same dynamic undercutting ostensible U.S aims has occurred with U.S. sanctions against the leading Russian billionaires. The neoliberal shock therapy and privatizations of the 1990s left Russian kleptocrats with only one way to cash out on the assets they had grabbed from the public domain. That was to incorporate their takings and sell their shares in London and New York. Domestic savings had been wiped out, and U.S. advisors persuaded Russia’s central bank not to create its own ruble money.

The result was that Russia’s national oil, gas and mineral patrimony was not used to finance a rationalization of Russian industry and housing. Instead of the revenue from privatization being invested to create new Russian means of protection, it was burned up on nouveau-riche acquisitions of luxury British real estate, yachts and other global flight-capital assets. But the effect of making the Russian dollar, sterling and euro holdings hostage has been to make the City of London too risky a venue in which to hold their assets. By imposing sanctions on the richest Russians closest to Putin, U.S. officials hoped to induce them to oppose his breakaway from the West, and thus to serve effectively as NATO agents-of-influence. But for Russian billionaires, their own country is starting to look safest.

For many decades now, the Federal Reserve and Treasury have fought against gold recovering its role in international reserves. But how will India and Saudi Arabia view their dollar holdings as Biden and Blinken try to strong-arm them into following the U.S. “rules-based order” instead of their own national self-interest? The recent U.S. dictates have left little alternative but to start protecting their own political autonomy by converting dollar and euro holdings into gold as an asset free of political liability of being held hostage to the increasingly costly and disruptive U.S. demands.

U.S. diplomacy has rubbed Europe’s nose in its abject subservience by telling its governments to have their companies dump the Russian assets for pennies on the dollar after Russia’s foreign reserves were blocked and the ruble’s exchange rate plunged. Blackstone, Goldman Sachs and other U.S. investors moved quickly to buy up what Shell Oil and other foreign companies were unloading.

Nobody thought that the postwar 1945-2020 world order would give way this fast. A truly new international economic order is emerging, although it is not yet clear just what form it will take. But “prodding the Bear” with the U.S./NATO confrontation with Russia has passed critical-mass level. It no longer is just about Ukraine. That is merely the trigger, a catalyst for driving much of the world away from the US/NATO orbit.

The next showdown may come within Europe itself. Nationalist politicians could seek to lead a break-away from the over-reaching U.S. power-grab over its European and other Allies, trying in vain to keep them dependent on U.S.-based trade and investment. The price of their continuing obedience is to impose cost-inflation on their industry while relinquishing their democratic electoral politics in subordination to America’s NATO proconsuls.

These consequences cannot really be deemed “unintended.” Too many observers have pointed out exactly what would happen – headed by President Putin and Foreign Secretary Lavrov explaining just what their response would be if NATO insisted in backing them into a corner while attacking Eastern Ukrainian Russian-speakers and moving heavy weaponry to Russia’s Western border. The consequences were anticipated. The neocons in control of U.S. foreign policy simply didn’t care. Recognizing its concerns was deemed to make one a Putinversteher.

European officials did not feel uncomfortable in telling the world about their worries that Donald Trump was crazy and upsetting the apple cart of international diplomacy. But they seem to have been blindsided at the Biden Administration’s resurgence of visceral Russia-hatred by Secretary of State Blinken and Victoria Nuland-Kagan. Trump’s mode of expression and mannerisms may have been uncouth, but America’s neocon gang has much more globally threatening confrontation obsessions. For them, it was a question of whose reality would emerge victorious: the “reality” that they believed they could make, or economic reality outside of U.S. control.

What foreign countries have not done for themselves – replacing the IMF, World Bank and other arms of U.S. diplomacy – American politicians are forcing them to do. Instead of European, Near Eastern and Global South countries breaking away out of their own calculation of their long-term economic interests, America is driving them away, as it has done with Russia and China. More politicians are seeking voter support by asking whether they would be better served by new monetary arrangements to replace dollarized trade, investment and even foreign debt service.

The energy and food price squeeze is hitting Global South countries especially hard, coinciding with their own Covid-19 problems and the looming dollarized debt service coming due. Something must give. How long will these countries impose austerity to pay foreign bondholders?

How will the U.S. and European economies cope in the face of their sanctions against imports of Russian gas and oil, cobalt, aluminum, palladium and other basic materials? American diplomats have made a list of raw materials that their economy desperately needs and which therefore are exempt from the trade sanctions being imposed. This provides Mr. Putin a handy list of pressure points to use in reshaping world diplomacy, in the process helping European and other countries break away from the Iron Curtain that America has imposed to lock its satellites into dependence on high-priced U.S. supplies.

But the final breakaway from NATO’s adventurism must come from within the United States itself. As this year’s midterm elections approach, politicians will find a fertile ground in showing U.S. voters that the price inflation led by gasoline and energy is a policy byproduct of the Biden administration blocking Russian oil and gas exports. Gas is needed not only for heating and energy production, but to make fertilizer, of which there already is a world shortage. This is exacerbated by blocking Russian and Ukrainian grain exports, sending U.S. and European food prices soaring.

Trying to force Russia to respond militarily and thereby looking bad to the rest of the world is turning out to be a stunt aimed simply at demonstrating Europe’s need to contribute more to NATO, buy more U.S. military hardware and lock itself deeper into trade and monetary dependence on the United States. The instability that this has caused is turning out to have the effect of making the United States look as threatening as Russia.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Karach
May 23, 2003

no war but class war

Very interesting post. The fallout (heh) from all this will be insane.

THS2
Oct 2, 2021

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

The biggest winner here is obviously Lukashenko, getting equal treatment in the line up along with everyone else.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Lostconfused posted:

The biggest winner here is obviously Lukashenko, getting equal treatment in the line up along with everyone else.

one day lukashenko will be promoted to colonel

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER


erdogan is literally an ally of the USA and they let him do all sorts of nonsense because he remains a strategically placed NATO ally with US bases and nukes on his soil

gently caress you anne applebaum

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

also where's evo/arce here you coward

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

V. Illych L. posted:

erdogan is literally an ally of the USA and they let him do all sorts of nonsense because he remains a strategically placed NATO ally with US bases and nukes on his soil

gently caress you anne applebaum

yeah he outsmarted the west by making them hate Russia and Syria a real lot

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Lostconfused posted:

The biggest winner here is obviously Lukashenko, getting equal treatment in the line up along with everyone else.

he will get upgraded to a bigger hat

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

xi and maduro are like the opposite of threatening. i bet they carry around candy in their pockets in case the grandchildren come over.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Xi is the only one I think I maybe could take in a fight if we were both at our peak

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


indigi posted:

Xi is the only one I think I maybe could take in a fight if we were both at our peak

buddy you seen young xi?

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Southpaugh posted:

buddy you seen young xi?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Southpaugh posted:

buddy you seen young xi?

of course. he was a handsome lad

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
If Maduro is such a bad guy why is the US coming to them with hat in hand?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

gradenko_2000 posted:

If Maduro is such a bad guy why is the US coming to them with hat in hand?

cause he tricked them into doing it by using his wiliness and smarts

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

indigi posted:

cause he tricked them into doing it by using his wiliness and smarts

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


You'd look long into his eyes and be overcome by xi jinping thought. All violent tendencies neutralised, and harmony restored.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Southpaugh posted:

You'd look long into his eyes and be overcome by xi jinping thought. All violent tendencies neutralised, and harmony restored.

that’s true. maybe if we were both blindfolded and armed with pillows. haha then I knock his shirt off by accident lol that’d be hilarious 😂😂😂😂

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


putin would have been a psycho judo manlet, kinda dude you'd never cross. Not worth it.

Lukashenkos an absolute unit and you'd totally have to wait until he stuns himself against a wall and do combos while his defences are down.

Maduro would probably maneuver you into some kind of Speed situation. And either you stop the bus or die.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Southpaugh posted:

putin would have been a psycho judo manlet, kinda dude you'd never cross. Not worth it.

Lukashenkos an absolute unit and you'd totally have to wait until he stuns himself against a wall and do combos while his defences are down.

Maduro would probably maneuver you into some kind of Speed situation. And either you stop the bus or die.

No Elden Ring boss spoilers pls

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I feel like Maduro would just palm my skull like a basketball and lift me off the ground so I’m swinging my legs and grabbing at his wrist telling him to put me down

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


His years of proletarian toil would certainly have given him the upper body strength.


Erdogans the least fun and sexy dude on that list and I'm not doing one for him. Which is a win by default for you.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


i like reading this guys articles. is super imperialism a good read?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

V. Illych L. posted:

erdogan is literally an ally of the USA and they let him do all sorts of nonsense because he remains a strategically placed NATO ally with US bases and nukes on his soil

gently caress you anne applebaum

Anglo hawks are wild because they want to fight everyone at once. They don't seem to understand divide and conquer.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Atrocious Joe posted:

Anglo hawks are wild because they want to fight everyone at once. They don't seem to understand divide and conquer.

:ironicat:

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

fart simpson posted:

i like reading this guys articles. is super imperialism a good read?

i have not tackled it yet. i think its pretty dry reading. he wrote it in the 1970s to explain to the US brass what they were doing, because they didnt actually know.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Popoto posted:

taiwan should join nato

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-07/china-urges-world-not-to-add-fuel-to-fire-in-war-in-ukraine

China Warns U.S. Over Forming Pacific NATO, Backing Taiwan

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001
looks like the Chinese did get their hands on that crashed f-35!

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3169582/china-built-ship-pulled-us-navy-jet-wreck-south-china-sea

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013




Now they can learn how not to build a plane.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

We’re going to win so much that you’re going to be sick and tired. You’re going to say, "Please, please, Mr. President, we’re sick and tired of winning. Please let us have at least one loss. It’s no longer exciting to win." And I’m going to say, "No way, we’re going to keep winning, and I don’t care if you like it or not."

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die



It's just that the ship that pulled it out was built in China, the US Navy still got their dumb plane for idiots back.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007


China who the gently caress would join pacific nato. australia??? new zealand?? who cares neither of those countries matter

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Grapplejack posted:

China who the gently caress would join pacific nato. australia??? new zealand?? who cares neither of those countries matter
America and a bunch of pointless idiot countries with 3 planes.

Just like regular NATO.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1500991856821243906?s=20&t=cKx0jkBhMzULnG6u9jvN3Q

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Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Grapplejack posted:

China who the gently caress would join pacific nato. australia??? new zealand?? who cares neither of those countries matter

Our government (Aus) has been kicking up the anti-China rhetoric for months now, so we're chomping at the bit for Pacific NATO

POTATO?

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