Ola posted:

Here's an article from 2020, seems to google translate ok-ish although "children" somehow becomes "pups" haha. Perhaps Google sees Norwegians as a subspecies of seal.

https://www.nrk.no/innlandet/fleire-plassar-i-landet-ma-ein-teste-soppen-for-radioaktivitet-_-pa-grunn-av-tsjernobyl-1.15141392

tl;dr not great, not terrible

Tagesschau posted:

According to the government, the first escape corridors for civilians from embattled cities have been opened in Ukraine. Evacuations are underway in the north-eastern city of Sumy and in Irpin near the capital Kiev, according to a representative of the Ukrainian presidential office.

Earlier, Russian and Ukrainian representatives had agreed to set up corridors to allow civilians to flee some towns besieged by Russian forces. The Russian army had therefore ceased fire as of 10 a.m. Moscow time (8 a.m. CET), the Interfax news agency reported, citing the defence ministry in Moscow.

Corridors had been opened for five cities, it added. In the capital Kiev as well as the major cities of Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv and the particularly embattled port city of Mariupol, people should be able to get to safety.

The Ukrainian Vice-Government Head Iryna Vereshchuk initially confirmed that an agreement had been reached with Russia and the Red Cross for the city of Sumy, which was valid until 20:00 (CET). The route would lead via Holubivka, Lochwyzja and Lubny to the central Ukrainian city of Poltava, 170 kilometres away.

The evacuation had begun, the Ukrainian agency Unian reported on its Telegram channel, showing buses and cars with civilians leaving in a video clip.

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

This can't be right, I've been assured that coal is actually clean.

Shibawanko posted:

imo everyone should just be encouraged to significantly turn down the thermostat in their house, i have mine set to 16 degrees now

with a rebel yell she QQd posted:

At least heating with wood is considered "renewable" energy because... you can always plant more trees.

OgNar posted:

f or c?

Huggybear posted:

The first day of the war the Russians assaulted Hostomel airport. I remember watching the footage of the helicopters and thinking, smart move. Lightning strike for absolutely critical infrastructure, creating (I assumed) at the same time a SAM free corridor by invading motor corps from the border to the airport so they can start flying in support and personnel right next to Kyiv, and have a contiguous supply line. But there was actual zero air support. The helicopters were transportation and couldn't stick around, and while there was supposed to be a paradrop, the Russians had clearly not yet established air superiority whatsoever. This was absolutely astonishing to me, and yet they undertook the assault all the same, a complete fubar move that of course resulted in the complete annilihation of at least a decent, if not elite aircav unit. Poor decision making, inferior tech, bad intel, at best hesitation to engage in complex air support (SAM suppression, heavy bombers supported by fighter sorties, fighter-bombers providing ground support, in short, air superiority), trash logistics, low morale, zero tech advantage - just complete fog of war. Comms, air superiority, SIGINT, superior logistics, working tech, precision munitions, combined arms; these win a modern war.

The same day, I remember seeing multiple videos of captured troop carriers whose interior looked like a car that a particularly filthy homeless person had lived in. I really hope for their sake that enough Russian soldiers surrender en masse to hammer it home to Putin. What they really need to create a false flag for is a "proud" retreat.

Nenonen posted:

Air forces all over the world spending trillions on hitech fighters, defeated by cyber

Youth Decay posted:

https://twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1501071619439087617

Perhaps the tide is turning for the better in Kyiv?

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According to the UN Refugee Agency, the number of refugees from Ukraine will exceed the two million mark "today or tomorrow". For comparison, the head of the relief agency, Fillippo Grandi, referred to the wars in Bosnia and the Balkans. These too had driven two to three million people to flee, "but over a period of eight years".

Antigravitas posted:

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MOSCOW. March 8 (Interfax) - Moscow is ready for an honest and mutually respectful dialogue with the United States and retains hope that relations with Washington, D.C., would return to normal, Alexander Darchiyev, director of the North America Department at the Russian Foreign Ministry, said.

"We are open for an honest and mutually respectful dialogue to the same extent as the U.S. will be ready for it. Perhaps, it would do well to remember the well-forgotten principle that worked during the Cold War, peaceful coexistence, despite the values and ideals separating us which must not be forced on each other," Darchiyev told Interfax.

"And the proverbial 'rule-based order' alongside the 'progressive' norms rejecting the traditional morals also must not be forced upon us," the diplomat said.

"If we proceed from this understanding of the basis of bilateral relations in light of Russia and the U.S.'s special responsibility for the fate of the world as nuclear superpowers, we retain hope that normalcy in relations between our countries will come back," he said.

"But it, of course, demands the reciprocal movement of both parties. I would like to reiterate that we are ready for such reciprocity," Darchiyev said.

ronya posted:

where's Lavrov's usual belligerence? Is this civil service nuance or Beijing's pressure toward at least pretending to be a responsible power making itself felt?

Shibawanko posted:

oh apparently the IAE already told people to lower their thermostats by 1 degree to be less dependent on russian gas but it seems to me that it could be a lot more drastic than that. most people seem to have theirs set to like 22 which is like warming putins asscheeks, just tell people to at least drop below 20

ronya posted:

https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1501126678738841601

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/75945/

where's Lavrov's usual belligerence? Is this civil service nuance or Beijing's pressure toward at least pretending to be a responsible power making itself felt?

You have to wonder what would have happened if the Hungarians had chewed up the Soviets in 1956

a podcast for cats posted:

The blaming of nature protection NGOs being financed by Russian gas interests has already begun.

edit: specifically, anti-logging NGOs

Dante posted:

We are talking about why europeans are in general averse to nuclear power, i.e nuclear energy PR. There's no doubt that the Chernobyl disaster and the fallout from it, combined with the general malaise of living right close to the Sovet Union during the height of the nuclear war tension, are key factors shaping the perception of nuclear energy even today in western europe. To illustrate with an example; Norway is a very outdoorsy nation due to its environment. Picking mushrooms in the forest is a pretty common activity, and there's still 40+ years later areas where you shouldn't pick mushrooms due to radioactivity from Chernobyl accumulating in the mushrooms making them dangerous to eat. Things like this go a looong way towards shaping public perception of nuclear energy.

lilljonas posted:

Yeah nuclear is not this amazingly cost efficient panacea for energy that some people would like to believe. Building new reactors is a pretty bad idea most of the time if you look at cost, it used to be cheap but that's because renewables used to be way more expensive per kWh just a few years ago.

Nenonen posted:

I wonder what the values and ideals are that Lavrov mentions but doesn't define? Both are corrupt imperialist powers so that can't be the difference.

Deteriorata posted:

Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian.

quote:

Perhaps, it would do well to remember the well-forgotten principle that worked during the Cold War, peaceful coexistence, despite the values and ideals separating us which must not be forced on each other," Darchiyev told Interfax.

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FishMcCool posted:

Are those people that much on drugs? How can you push that line after invading a country based on you claims that you don't like their (alleged) nazi values and ideals?

alex314 posted:

Also showing Su-57 as the pinnacle of Russian tech, while as far as I know it's a bodykit for Su-27 which was designed to look cool on pics and scam India.

That Italian Guy posted:

EDIT: also notorious winner of the space race, USSR.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

So reading around twitter and other places, it sounds like the Russians will be trying to send Task Force War Crime into Kyiv as a “gently caress it just take the city because I have only so many turns before the phase ends” horror show. https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv...agenumber%3D425 the Russians are either almost out of bigger long range stuff in region or the Ukrainians have way more tech in Kyiv now. Also all of Russia’s occupation force is in country. https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/...%5Es1_&ref_url= So I think this is a make or break for various time tables in the invasion for Russia. Also good Ukrainian article about the upcoming fight. https://t.me/Tsaplienko/2230

Failed Imagineer posted:

I feel like puking if my house is above 20, it's just very stuffy and unpleasant. People are weird

Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:

Ah, regrouping attempt #23947, and reported by the ever-reliable NEXTA. This time for sure!